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    Default Respect to healthy EIEs/ENFjs

    In my study of organizational behavior, there is a lot that comes across as seeing how EIEs can be really good leaders. Here is a quote from a textbook.

    "However, recent efforts using the Big Five Personality Framework has generated much more encouraging results. Specifically, the traits of extraversion, conscientiousness, and openness to experience show strong and relationships to leadership"


    That's right, the Big 5 tests/theory you may know of already. But also, there was a lot of talk about EQ - emotional intelligence, which I find particularly noticeable in Fe ego blockers.

    I was working with an EIE this semester. I didn't particularly like him at first - because he valued other things than me, and was particularly better with people than I was. But I realize they have a special gift when it comes to leading and motivating people - when they get behind things they can really take off.

    It reminds me of Bono a bit, how, the person who actually wanted to get a band and make one was the drummer, Larry Mullen Jr, but "when Bono arrived, I knew he was taking over", etc. And Bono does a lot of good things, or at least tries to. He's out there doing something.

    MLK also fits in here, and so does Hitler. For all the bad things said about him, Hitler was indisputably a great leader. He helped Germany recover quite quickly, and motivated people to do outrageous things.


    Point being, although there are a lot of things I sometimes dislike, I'm learning how to work alongside of EIEs rather than in opposition to them. It can be mutually rewarding.
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    this was very interesting to read.

    This kind of motivational abilities are something I aspire towards. I already see that sometimes it just works but only brief moments.
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    I would say that Hitler was an *effective* leader and not great.

    Choose your words wisely.
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    Choose your words wisely.

    Why don't you just come out and say that Hitler was effective and a skilled leader, but you disagree with the moral ends to which his actions went to.

    You don't have to criticize my choice of words, when it actually has nothing to do with the word I used. You didn't like "Great", not because of the actual effectiveness of him, but because his ethical approach.


    Minor note: - What is Fe/Ti vs Fi/Te, Alex?

    PS: Granted, I do see the irony in mentioning hitler in a thread entitled "healthy EIEs"
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    Don't get defensive, It was merely an observation which was followed by a recommendation. I was not attacking your usage of words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Alliterator View Post
    Don't get defensive, It was merely an observation which was followed by a recommendation. I was not attacking your usage of words.
    Stop TELLING ME WHAT TO DO!!!!



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