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    Default which bothers you more...

    Does it both you more when someone is being immoral or when someone is being stupid?

    Feel free to subtitute bothers for ittitates or mean for immoral or irrational/illogical for stupid if it makes the question easier to answer.
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    Feeler.

    It bothers me when people are immoral, although I don't always understand when others think a person is immoral because I can't see it myself.

    It irritates me when people are slow to learn. If I am trying to teach them, I get irritated at myself for not getting the message across clearly. If they are struggling but want to learn, I am irritated that they aren't getting adequate assistance. If they are slow but have no real desire to learn it irritates me that they have that attitude and are wasting the teacher/lecturer and their fellow students' time. An example of the last one would be the girl in my year 10 guitar class - "Which one is the E string?"

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    People that are stupid annoy the crap out of me. (and I'm not talking about anyone here, in case that's what my post seemed to say).
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    I am a feeler by my creative function. Stupidity bothers me, but I think it can be forgiven. I used to believe immorality could be forgiven, but now I am less certain about this. I selected the first option to vote in this poll.

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    I guess what it comes down to is this:

    Feeler: "Stupid people are sorta annoying, but it's not like they can really help it..."

    Thinker: "There is a lot of immorality in the world. No, it's not good. I don't like it, but that's just how it is. But stupid people are REALLY irritating."

    well, according to my theory at least *shrugs*
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    I think ignorance is the worst of all. Not necessarily "stupidity," but irreverent use of power or knowledge.

    EDIT: Stupid people are still really annoying.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

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    All of the above?

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    Hard question, but I'd say immorality, or, better said, injustice, bothers me more.
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    Default Re: JUSTICE

    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater
    There is no Justice in the world and it bothers me a lot
    how do you feel when you have to deal with a very stupid/ignorant person?
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    Immorality, definitely.

    I like stupidity. Stupid people make me happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    i was thinking that (generalizing) thinkers would be a lot more tolerant of "stupidity" and a lot less tolerant of immorality/not-so-kind people.
    Why's that?
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    Hmmmm yeah, but this is a value thing. Thinkers value logic and feeler value ethics.
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    I see your point (though with ISTps the behavior is directed at them specifically, which isn't what I was asking). This theory is based mostly on personal observations, but clearly the poll demonstates that it's not so cut and dry.
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    See, I see them as intertwined (yet again). Both can be either and related. Sigh @ dualism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    more like thinkers use logic and feelers use ethics.

    why this for istp negative traits then?:

    You can be very sensitive to the lack of positive emotions, rude behaviour or tactlessness towards you.
    Ahh.. I just wrote this up about ISTps last night, what do ya think?

    http://www.entp.org/discuss/viewtopi...=450&start=120
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    yeah, I guess I wasn't being clear enough there either... I didn't mean out of people close to them, more with acquaintances and strangers.
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    Aww, you use the cute fox pic there too. What a cheater. That thing is so difficult to resist...

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    Huh. I'm a Feeler, supposedly, and I was one of the 2 who voted for Stupid as worse than Immoral. Hmmm, maybe these accusations of me being a Thinker have some merit to them. I am believing it more and more these days.


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    hmm, there are 2 types of stupid, stupid on purpose to flirt or something, and stupid as in genuine 'i don't get it' stupid. The 1st is very annoying, the 2nd i dont have a problem with at all.
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    I love the third type of stupidity: acting stupid just to annoy smart people.
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    i don't quite know how to answer this question! there are various ways to interpret 'bothers' and 'stupid'. i mean, it disturbs me when i see immorality, which i guess 'bothers' me. but it irritates me when i see stupidity, especially the clueless moronic kind (and i mean REALLY irritated) - so i guess that's a kind of 'bothers me' too.

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