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    Default SLEs/ESTps having to touch and move everything

    Why do you ESTP people always want to touch everything?

    Everyone's stuff and things have to be moved, rearranged.

    Pushing buttons on every device. Please don't put an ESTP in a nuclear missile plant.

    They always touch my hair. sigh Oke thanks now it's fucked up :-(

    I even got an ESTP friend who got expelled from class one time because he was to touchy with everyone.

    I guess they should become barber or something, they can touch people's hair all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Why do you ESTP people always want to touch everything?

    Everyone's stuff and things have to be moved, rearranged.

    Pushing buttons on every device. Please don't put an ESTP in a nuclear missile plant.

    They always touch my hair. sigh Oke thanks now it's fucked up :-(

    I even got an ESTP friend who got expelled from class one time because he was to touchy with everyone.

    I guess they should become barber or something, they can touch people's hair all day long.
    It's evident in MBTT; I think less in socionics. MBTT-wise, you've essentially described Se. Socionics-wise, it's probably still Se-related, but I don't know how or why.
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    I love that about SLEs. Such a confident touch, assertive.

    Not like the ego types, all mushy and cutesy.


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    Confident but unaware. Overzealous puppy is the best term I ever heard to describe ESTps. One ESTp in the family breaks everything, all the kids toys. They always say "don't let him touch my toy!!"
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    Jarno,

    Are you complaining?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Not like the ego types, all mushy and cutesy.
    Delta ST mushy?

    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    They always say "don't let him touch my toy!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mercutio View Post
    Jarno,

    Are you complaining?
    Nah not in an wrong sense of way.

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    Old post, but it reminded me of this skit on Donald Trump


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    @silke this is great How it all gets moved away from him and even ends up in another person's zone uselessly

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    demonstrative? I'm always disassembling pens unconsciously and dropping parts to floor. Sometimes I hang pens arms of my glasses (yes, glasses are still on my head)... and maybe disassemble from there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by unsuccessfull Alphamale View Post
    demonstrative? I'm always disassembling pens unconsciously and dropping parts to floor. Sometimes I hang pens arms of my glasses (yes, glasses are still on my head)... and maybe disassemble from there...
    No that is just Ne-dom randomness. Maybe paired with Ti, figuring out the parts of a pen by disassembling it.. understanding its inner workings. Se-doms want to actively have control over their environment and shape it.
    My SEE father dos the same, he has to literally touch everything and really 'feel' the environment. Se-grabby hands.

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    This is one of my favorite things about SLEs.

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    I can't seem to help but play around with the ends of sugar sticks when I'm at cafes. At other locations count on me to pick up a little object like a pen which I often accidentally break off the end clip if the pen has one.

    When a child I would pull pens apart to use as a type of pen gun or place the pen in my hair to hold it for when I needed it next.
    Lol, once my friend added her pen to my hair as did then the other classmates to see what reaction the teacher would give :-)

    But help me...today at a cafe I did the SLE thing of moving my serviette and cutlery away from directly in front of me!

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    I feel like this is an Se thing in general but SLE is definitely the most conspicuous about it because they do it for its own sake. I know i'll engage in fucking around with my cutlery if I don't like where its at, but only if I notice such a thing, which is probably only half or less of the time, and only with sufficient reason that I could articulate if you asked me. SLE has it backwards, the "reason" is unconscious, but they "notice" it %100 of the time. hence they couldn't always tell you why they did it because they notice it (and act on it) more often than they think about it, whereas someone like LIE will think about it more often than they notice it (and act on it) which is why they can generally articulate it (if they move it, which is not always)

    i think its the 4d Se + (demonstrative) Te

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    I don't know if I'm estp but i tag myself as enfp/estp because i have perfect balance between Se and Ne Fi and Ti. So being my estp self, regarding touching xD

    It just feel good to touch and be touched lol xD

    And touching stuffs gives me curiosity as well like how was this? You would like to know something more. By touching it.

    You wanna get a real relationship in real world rather than online because you want real sex not phone or sex text xD

    You wanna touch real dicks rather than just seeing dick pics.

    You wanna get fucked for real than telling you in text that i wanna fuck you because it doesn't turn you on.

    What turns you on is the act.

    The experience of it.

    Because for me i got lots of fucking ideas for real because of Ne and i wanna make those ideas came to life

    And well touching is more intimate and it feels good lol and it makes you hold grasp of something, it's like a confirmation for me

    Like okay this is how it really feels like

    I don't believe easily i wanna experience it by myself so that i can confirm it's real.

    Please touch me.

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