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    Model Members

    This is a list of the "model" forum members for particular types. All typings are subjective, and refer to how well I personally know the person. Alternatives are listed in parentheses. All of the base typings are pretty confident; alternatives that i am less confident about for whatever reason are listed with a question mark; the number of question marks is proportional to the relative uncertainty. everything is subject to change.

    out of deference to not selecting myself on this list, i might arbitrarily replace myself with reyn_til_runa.
    • ILE: hkkmr (steve)
    • SEI: bionicgoat (dee)
    • ESE: cracka
    • LII: thehotelambush (logos)
    • EIE: kristiina (jadae??)
    • LSI: jimbean (mysticsonic??, UDP??) <phaedrus? is a terrible choice as model anything. jimbean is a good representation of LSIs generally; the others i'm less confident about and their characters are less typical of LSIs if they even are LSIs.>
    • SLE: herzy (ashton, ezra?)
    • IEI: eunice (vague, baby) <hitta is a terrible choice as model anything.>
    • SEE: liveandletlive (scarlettlux, khamelion)
    • ILI: niffweed17 (salawa, reyn_til_runa, blauritson)
    • LIE: expat (joy)
    • ESI: diana (discojoe??)
    • LSE: none
    • EII: minde (subterranean, rmcnew) <this is the least confident base typing>
    • IEE: slacker mom (rick, tereg)
    • SLI: snegledmaca (heath)
    comments? your own lists?

    edit: added baby
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    i might replace bionicgoat with dee (or bee.) otherwise i don't think your list is that bad.
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    # ILE: hkkmr (steve)
    # SEI: chopin,dolphin
    # ESE: cracka
    # LII: thehotelambush
    # EIE: kristiina
    # LSI: potatospirit (jimbean)
    # SLE: herzy (ashton)
    # IEI: eunice (glamourama,implied)
    # SEE: liveandletlive (scarlettlux, khamelion)
    # ILI: niffweed17 (salawa, reyn_til_runa, blauritson)
    # LIE: expat (joy)
    # ESI: diana (discojoe)
    # LSE: UDP
    # EII: minde (munenori, rmcnew) <this is the least confident base typing>
    # IEE: tereg (rick,slacker mom)
    # SLI: LokiVanguard (heath)

    Not much different though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    • SLI: snegledmaca
    comments?
    I'm totally not certain of being SLI, I think somebody else would be a better choice as a model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    Model Members

    This is a list of the "model" forum members for particular types. All typings are subjective, and refer to how well I personally know the person. Alternatives are listed in parentheses. All of the base typings are pretty confident; alternatives that i am less confident about for whatever reason are listed with a question mark; the number of question marks is proportional to the relative uncertainty. everything is subject to change.

    out of deference to not selecting myself on this list, i might arbitrarily replace myself with reyn_til_runa.
    • ILE: hkkmr (steve)
    • SEI: bionicgoat (dee)
    • ESE: cracka
    • LII: thehotelambush (logos)
    • EIE: kristiina (jadae??)
    • LSI: jimbean (mysticsonic??, UDP??) <phaedrus? is a terrible choice as model anything. jimbean is a good representation of LSIs generally; the others i'm less confident about and their characters are less typical of LSIs if they even are LSIs.>
    • SLE: herzy (ashton, ezra?)
    • IEI: eunice (vague) <hitta is a terrible choice as model anything.>
    • SEE: liveandletlive (scarlettlux, khamelion)
    • ILI: niffweed17 (salawa, reyn_til_runa, blauritson)
    • LIE: expat (joy)
    • ESI: diana (discojoe??)
    • LSE: none
    • EII: minde (subterranean, rmcnew) <this is the least confident base typing>
    • IEE: slacker mom (rick, tereg)
    • SLI: snegledmaca (heath)
    comments? your own lists?
    I agree with your base typings here, e.g. kristiina, Herzy, etc... Some of the (pathenthesis) typings, I'm not so sure about, e.g. UDP, Ezra; however, most of them I agree with, e.g. rmcnew, joy, steve... For SLI, force my hand is a good Te-subtype model... Kamangir is a pretty good SEI model too.

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    I like your list niff except Joy
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    I think reyn_til_runa is probably the "most ILI" ILI I've met/talked to, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    ILI: niffweed17
    LIE: expat (joy)
    lol

    btw I would put logos as the model LII
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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca View Post
    I'm totally not certain of being SLI, I think somebody else would be a better choice as a model.
    i'm pretty confident about it though. i think you overall best fit the sort of type message of SLI out of anybody here.

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    Why am I listed with two question marks?

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    Interesting list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    A lot of this list is quite interesting choices...
    It's like he wants to question people's self-typings for some reason or the other...
    self-typings are absolutely irrelevant to any of my typings. all of these i'm very confident about, except those where there are question marks, where i'm not very confident about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    self-typings are absolutely irrelevant to any of my typings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    All this does is make your understanding seem very personal and private, rather then aware of other people's perspective and opinions...
    umm... totally disagree. the only thing it demonstrates is that i do not immediately assume that people have any idea what they are talking about or that they have the ability to analyze themselves in terms of socionics correctly.

    and in my opinion many people do not.


    i can acknowledge that other people may disagree with my assessments, but that need not influence them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    self-typings are absolutely irrelevant to any of my typings. all of these i'm very confident about, except those where there are question marks, where i'm not very confident about it.
    How can you be so sure of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Well of course, I don't think anyone should assume you have any idea what you're talking about or the ability the to analyze anyone else in terms of socionics correctly.
    of that, you must decide for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    How can you be so sure of them?
    often by having talked to these people in an extended fashion or having observed them significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    self-typings are absolutely irrelevant to any of my typings.
    As they should be.
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    Why would you use me as an alternative model for ESI if you're not at all sure of my type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Why would you use me as an alternative model for ESI if you're not at all sure of my type?
    maybe bc you're one of the few people on this forum who could possibly be ESI other than diana? i got the idea he was at least attempting to supply some alternative options. at any rate this looked like a bit of a work in progress/rough draft.
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    I don't think it's a good idea to use Peter as a model anyways. He's a lot different irl than it seems like he would be if you're just reading his posts here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I don't think it's a good idea to use Peter as a model anyways. He's a lot different irl than it seems like he would be if you're just reading his posts here.
    i don't either really, probably for the reasons you listed.
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    i think potatospirit would be a better representative of an LSI, and theMime, dolphin as SEI.
    SLI, winterpark, lokivanguard(very SLI-Si imo)
    IEI, dreamer, but she doesn't come on anymore. i'd have to agree with eunice as IEI after meeting her. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I don't think it's a good idea to use Peter as a model anyways. He's a lot different irl than it seems like he would be if you're just reading his posts here.
    Thats one problem with typing people on the net

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea View Post
    i'd have to agree with eunice as IEI after meeting her. lol.
    I've been thinking she's more likely IEI than EII since seeing niffweed's comparison list and noticing that most of her typings are the same as Ashton's. Some aren't there (like mine, for example), but there are enough odd ones that match his to make it apparent that she's very involved in that community and respects his logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea View Post

    SLI, winterpark, lokivanguard(very SLI-Si imo)
    2nd this. i almost mentioned winterpark in my 1st post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I've been thinking she's more likely IEI than EIE since seeing niffweed's comparison list and noticing that most of her typings are the same as Ashton's. Some aren't there (like mine, for example), but there are enough odd ones that match his to make it apparent that she's very involved in that community and respects his logic.
    That is a peculiar way to type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I've been thinking she's more likely IEI than EIE since seeing niffweed's comparison list and noticing that most of her typings are the same as Ashton's. Some aren't there (like mine, for example), but there are enough odd ones that match his to make it apparent that she's very involved in that community and respects his logic.

    An aside: Who is this "Ashton" and why does his name pop up so frequently here? He's mentioned in ways like he's a cult leader. (I assume that he used to post here a lot--I believe that I remember him posting when I first started here--I'm just wondering why he's referenced so often..?)

    On topic: Winterpark is a great example of SLI. LokiV is SLI-Si par excellence... Niffweed himself is a perfect example of INTp.

    It would be a great endeavor if we could come up with a list of model forum members for each subtype too... I need to get to know most of you better before I could come up with one, but someone who knows a lot of forum members and is good at typing surely could... It could be a great resource.
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    Ashton used to post here and is now part of the socionix.com crowd. He was banned some time ago but a lot of people here still keep in contact with him through other forums, chats, etc. The cult leader vibe may come from the fact that he is one of the people that run the other forum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    Model Members

    This is a list of the "model" forum members for particular types. All typings are subjective, and refer to how well I personally know the person. Alternatives are listed in parentheses. All of the base typings are pretty confident; alternatives that i am less confident about for whatever reason are listed with a question mark; the number of question marks is proportional to the relative uncertainty. everything is subject to change.

    out of deference to not selecting myself on this list, i might arbitrarily replace myself with reyn_til_runa.
    • ILE: hkkmr (steve)
    • SEI: bionicgoat (dee)
    • ESE: cracka
    • LII: thehotelambush (logos)
    • EIE: kristiina (jadae??)
    • LSI: jimbean (mysticsonic??, UDP??) <phaedrus? is a terrible choice as model anything. jimbean is a good representation of LSIs generally; the others i'm less confident about and their characters are less typical of LSIs if they even are LSIs.>
    • SLE: herzy (ashton, ezra?)
    • IEI: eunice (vague) <hitta is a terrible choice as model anything.>
    • SEE: liveandletlive (scarlettlux, khamelion)
    • ILI: niffweed17 (salawa, reyn_til_runa, blauritson)
    • LIE: expat (joy)
    • ESI: diana (discojoe??)
    • LSE: none
    • EII: minde (subterranean, rmcnew) <this is the least confident base typing>
    • IEE: slacker mom (rick, tereg)
    • SLI: snegledmaca (heath)
    comments? your own lists?
    there's a couple of people listed whose types are still commonly disputed so it seems impetuous and counter-intuitive to even include them on a "model type" list (i.e. eunice and snegledmaca). But that being said I like this idea and might try to make my own later tonight. It would perhaps be even more interesting if subtypes were included
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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Ashton used to post here and is now part of the socionix.com crowd. He was banned some time ago but a lot of people here still keep in contact with him through other forums, chats, etc. The cult leader vibe may come from the fact that he is one of the people that run the other forum...
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    I'm up for anything guys. I'll become an LSE so I can get on niff's list!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    ??
    whoa, that was weird...lol i read what you wrote... then when i quoted it came up with this....lol.

    I do agree with what you said though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    whoa, that was weird...lol i read what you wrote... then when i quoted it came up with this....lol.

    I do agree with what you said though.
    I think the post I was responding to was deleted... So then I deleted my post, and you responded to it

    Edit: I basically said something along the lines of "questioning someone's type ~= questioning someone's intelligence," except with more words and fewer logical symbols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elro View Post
    I think the post I was responding to was deleted... So then I deleted my post, and you responded to it
    ah, well... like I said anyway... it was a good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii View Post
    there's a couple of people listed whose types are still commonly disputed so it seems impetuous and counter-intuitive to even include them on a "model type" list (i.e. eunice and snegledmaca).
    commonly disputed maybe, but that's immaterial. in both of those cases i'm very confident about the typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    That is a peculiar way to type.
    I was convinced that she was IxFp for a while, then there was this long thread about her type and I was even more convinced that she was IEI, then Expat said that he didn't think a Fe creative type would be able to pretend that it didn't bother him/her that a bunch of people where making fun of him/her everyday, and I figured he had more experience with Fe creative types (I hadn't realized that my dad was IEI at the time), so I decided that if that was true, then she was probably EII after all. But I was just leaning in that direction... until I witnessed that type list comparison thing. Then when I saw what she said about him in his type thread I was like "okay, she's definitely IEI", but I didn't want to open that can of worms again at this point.

    So anyways, IEI it is.
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    What of the name "force my hand" though? Isn't that like... opposite of Si dominance?
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    ILI is "the critic", after all.
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    At first I agreed with hkkmr about it kind of being disrespectful...like an insult to their intelligence or something...but it's not...if someone doesn't understand socionics it doesn't mean they're not intelligent...and even if two people understand socionics really well and they disagree it doesn't mean that one or the other is unintelligent.

    I talked to Niffweed and he wasn't trying to be disrespectful... not with the list anyway...he was just stating things the way he believes they are. Like what Loki said.

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