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    Limited time only, btw.
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    Alpha NT

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
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    yeah... I still know nothing about VI but popped into my mind as soon as I saw the picture...

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    huh i saw Fe first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
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    Yeah, no doubt. No clue on J-P though.
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    INTj is a serious possibility, actually. But I wouldn't rule out every other type yet.

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    LIE is quite unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    INTj is a serious possibility, actually. But I wouldn't rule out every other type yet.
    It's in my top 4 or 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    LIE is quite unlikely.
    On what ground(s)?

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    I was thinking LSI > SLE > ILE > LII.
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    something says Fe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I was thinking LSI > SLE > ILE > LII.
    His facial structure suggest N > S, and his body type suggest LII > ILE (but not as strongly as N > S). Based on V.I. I would say that SLE is the least probable of those four types, since it neither fits his face nor his body very well.

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    It's unlikely that he's got a Se PoLR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    It's unlikely that he's got a Se PoLR.
    I can of course only comment on what type is most likely based on V.I. since I know nothing at all about him as a person.

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    Beta popped into my head, he seems to be comfortable with , at least.

    I'm thinking ISTj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    I can of course only comment on what type is most likely based on V.I. since I know nothing at all about him as a person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamangir View Post
    Beta popped into my head, he seems to be comfortable with , at least.
    Quadra belongings simply can't be observed on V.I. What you can observe when you try to determine a person's type using the V.I. method is whether the person is more likely an S type or an N type (an aspect that has to do with, among other things, the lower part of your face and your eyes), whether someone is more likely a rational (J) type or an irrational (P) (has to do with roundness, accentuated angles of the face, etc.), and other aspects of the face that are related to the four dichotomies. And you can observe the person's body type, which is also type related to varying degrees in different types. This particular person seems to have a body type that is almost never found in SLEs, for example.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamangir
    I'm thinking ISTj.
    I don't rule out that for certain, but can't you see that his lower part of the face suggest N, at least on the picture where he smiles. In the other picture his face looks more square in that area in a way that is more compatible with ISTj, but it is still not a typical ISTj face. INTj is still more likely based on V.I. We need more information to back up your ISTj thesis, because it can't stand on its own here.

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    Reminded me immediately of a guy I had typed as either LIE or LSI, with LII as a remote possibility.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
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    Haha, I can see why you would say that. Fe valuer seems a very safe bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    His facial structure suggest N > S, and his body type suggest LII > ILE (but not as strongly as N > S). Based on V.I. I would say that SLE is the least probable of those four types, since it neither fits his face nor his body very well.

    I agree 100% with this.

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    Anyways, he's the guy who phaedrus reminds me a lot of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Anyways, he's the guy who phaedrus reminds me a lot of.
    Interesting. I don't have the same facial structure as your guy, and we don't seem to have the same body type. But apparently you seem to confuse my attitude and behaviour with that of a LII, like for example Sergei Ganin (who has a rather strong resemblance with the guy if we look at the second of the pictures you posted, where he didn't smile). We can be pretty sure that the guy is not an LSI, and it is even less likely that I am an LSI (because the chance of that is approximately zero).

    Now, the important question is: How do we learn people to see the difference(s) between LIIs and ILIs, between leading types and creative types? Why is that so difficult? I don't know the answer to that, but it is very obvious that this is a general tendency among certain members of this forum.

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    It's extremely unlikely that this guy is LII. I've lived with people with Se PoLR's almost my entire life, and he does not have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    It's extremely unlikely that this guy is LII. I've lived with people with Se PoLR's almost my entire life, and he does not have one.
    So what type do you think he is? He is obviously not a SLE anyway. Is he an ILE? Or do you think that he is a LSI?

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    LSI, most likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    LSI, most likely.
    Okay. You may be right, I dont' know for sure. But now you know that I am not an LSI anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    But now you know that I am not an LSI anyway.
    How do I know that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    How do I know that?
    Because I have told you that I have a facial structure and most likely also a body type that are so clearly different from that guy's that we can't be the same type. So if he is a LSI, then I can't be one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Because I have told you that I have a facial structure and most likely also a body type that are so clearly different from that guy's that we can't be the same type. So if he is a LSI, then I can't be one.
    Then you're putting a lot more emphasis on VI than I do.
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    That is, not all LSI's look the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Then you're putting a lot more emphasis on VI than I do.
    Maybe. I can't type every one with certainty based on V.I., and I can't tell the exact type of your guy. But whatever type he really is, I can tell for sure that I am not the same type as he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    That is, not all LSI's look the same.
    I know. But many LSIs have a rather characteristic look that I can spot, if the person happens to have that exact kind of look. This guy doesn't have it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he can't be an LSI, because he looks like a rational type, especially in the picture where he doesn't smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Now, the important question is: How do we learn people to see the difference(s) between LIIs and ILIs, between leading types and creative types? Why is that so difficult? I don't know the answer to that, but it is very obvious that this is a general tendency among certain members of this forum.
    it's "teach people" not "learn people"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
    it's "teach people" not "learn people"
    Correct. Thanks for pointing that out. Every day I get to teach something new ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    But whatever type he really is, I can tell for sure that I am not the same type as he is.
    Because you look different than he does?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Because you look different than he does?
    Yes -- in a way that is type relevant. We are not just looking different in general. I can tell that he is another type than I am -- that is obvious from V.I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Yes -- in a way that is type relevant. We are not just looking different in general. I can tell that he is another type than I am -- that is obvious from V.I.
    If we hold the same beliefs about VI, then yes, "now I know" that you're not LSI. However, we do not hold the same beliefs about VI. So I don't "now know" anything, except your opinion on the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    If we hold the same beliefs about VI, then yes, "now I know" that you're not LSI. However, we do not hold the same beliefs about VI. So I don't "now know" anything, except your opinion on the matter.
    We could try to compare our beliefs about V.I. if you are interested. We can both provide examples of, for example LSIs, to see if we have similar "prototypes" or not.

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