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    Jay Leno?
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    Ross from Friends?

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    Intuitive subtypes are not too hard to find in entertainment. In general, is so easy to contrast with that the dreamer vs. realist setup has almost become kind of a cliché, as has the wacky neighbor stock character (e.g., Cosmo Kramer). However, in my experience, as lead characters ILEs are often portrayed as anti-heroes who value their ideas and cleverness over reality and sensibility. This is especially true in sitcoms, where the term "hair-brained scheme" may or may not be thrown around liberally.

    • Shawn Spencer, Psych
      • Shawn Spencer is a guy with a highly developed observational skill who fakes being a psychic detective. Note that though observation is usually a or skill, Spencer's was drilled into him by his father, and he uses it more to tie things together than to glean facts. What makes him effective is that he can use small observations to jump to a big conclusion. He is also motivated almost entirely by what interests him.
      • Restless, energetic, but somewhat unstable --> EP temperament
      • In accusations, prefers roundabout, abstract, confusing discourse to direct confrontation; responds with frustration to suggestions of lack of self-control -->
      • Displays of emotion strongly dependent on those around him; abstract reasoning --> , valued
      • Possible other types: IEE (sometimes has insight into other's feelings and motivations)
    • Peter Griffin, Family Guy
      • A great example of a tremendously stupid ILE, Peter Griffin always comes up with remarkably stupid ideas to keep himself interested. He is a burden to others, but they put up with him because of his child-like charm. His best friend Brian is an LII, and his wife Lois is an SEI or SLI.
      • Restless, interest-seeking behavior; without stimulation becomes agitated and upset --> EP
      • Focused strongly on ideas and possibilities, ignorant of facts and surroundings, limited self-control --> >
      • Though profoundly dumb, lacks any sensitivity to emotional issues; ideas make abundant sense in his head --> >
      • Possible other types: IEE (clearly underdeveloped creative function regardless)


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    The Logical Subtype is a rarer subtype in entertainment, except maybe in the more reclusive and focussed of the mad scientist characters, who, while often representative of the type, are rarely leads (at least that I can tell).

    • Gregory House, House
      • Dr. House is portrayed as the kind of genius that gets to be a jerk and buck the system because he's just that good. He uses deductive reasoning of the Sherlock Holmes type to solve complicated medical cases. Though he seems to value as the most important thing in life, he frequently (and, very occasionally, admittedly) uses it to manipulate himself and others more than to create a truly consistent logical system for everything. His somewhat random and energetic behavior is not really indicative of a IJ temperament in any sense. Though highly confrontational, he is decidedly manipulative, rather than physical. His aggression seems intellectual in nature, and his aim is to be recognized as smart and correct, rather than powerful and in control. His best friend Wilson appears to be an SEI and SLI who compulsively befriends "needy" individuals.
      • Extremely calculating and logical; absence of empathy --> >
      • Disdainful of "experts" and bureaucrats; little regard for rules --> >
      • Motivated only by what keeps him interested, little desire to expand his power, area of influence --> >
      • Possible other types: SLE (he is territorial, although in a strongly intellectual sort of way)


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    Roger Rabbit



    And I think Jessica Rabbit may be ESE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suomea View Post
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    the protagonist from "the science of sleep." i don't remember if i thought he was ILE or IEE, actually.

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    Juno from Juno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    Juno from Juno.
    Oh, you mean her?

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    Jerry - Seinfeld

    Larry David - Curb Your Enthusiasm (although I've also heard LII)

    Peter Gibbons - Office Space
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    Not the Office, diljs, Office Space.
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    Fox Mulder FBI
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    Juno from Juno.
    hm. actually, that might make sense, although i still don't think that character is totally consistent in socionics terms.

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    I was a lot of like Juno when I was in high school. Minus pregnancy, of course.
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    House is ILI, IMO.

    Disdainful of "experts" and bureaucrats; little regard for rules --> >
    That is hilarious.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    House is ILI, IMO.

    Oh yeah because he's critical of other people...that makes sense. Thanks for that, Gilly.

    Actually, I don't think the character is ENTp anymore anyhow. House's character really doesn't make sense. It's only a believable character within the very fixed world of the show.

    That is hilarious.
    It's not really "haha" funny, but it's kinda funny, like a greeting card or Everybody Loves Raymond.

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    *sigh* Go back to Socionix, Riddy; at least they actually like you there.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    *sigh* Go back to Socionix, Riddy; at least they actually like you there.
    So you can't conceive of someone coming to a place for reasons other than people liking them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRiddy View Post
    So you can't conceive of someone coming to a place for reasons other than people liking them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    Not the Office, diljs, Office Space.
    The Office Space?
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    No, the movie is called Office Space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mn0good View Post
    No, the movie is called Office Space.
    I know I'm just messing with you. Big fan of both, you caught my typo, I fixed it.
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    larry david in curb your enthusiasm is entp-ti
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    Charlie Bartlett is so wicked. I liked that movie a lot.
    What would be that girl (he's in love with) 's type?

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