Udp

[Ezra]

I think it's about time to discuss UDP's type. The poll is there for archival reasons; I'm interested in getting a general consensus on whether or not he is an LSE at this time.

Personally, I'm beginning to accept it, despite the barrier of opposition he received last year as he changed from LII to LSE. Thus far, despite his highly questionable methods of reasoning, I've seen nothing that plays contrary to LSE.

I'm interested to see detailed cases for or against LSE (or another type, particularly LII) from those who are interested in UDP's case. Those who aren't, speak by all means; doesn't mean you'll be acknowledged though. But do vote; everyone's vote counts here, and I like big numbers for big issues. Even if you're not willing to contribute a case for a type, still vote.

ETA: apologies, UDP. Fucking forum rules don't allow all caps for your name.

[cracka]

I think it's about time to discuss UDP's type.

So, why's that your decision to make?

[implied]

@ifmd95 - why EJ temperament?

i can see why Ti base would be a little shakey for UDP though, heh. i do think he apparently needs or expects people to be largely more "consistent" in behavior than most. i'm not sure but i'm slowly sort of wondering if this isn't some delta ST thing i'm entirely unaware of existing. i think maybe a rational dual is what is needed, though, at any rate.

i'm curious. and i agree that the superhero business + going on about spiritual matters/making ethical "codes" or whatever doesn't strike me as particularly ESTj either. and the general focus on being a leader/in a position of leadership (there was indeed a period where UDP discussed this a lot, as i recall) doesn't really jive well with what i think delta is generally like.

i'm still open to the idea that he could possibly be ESTj, it just doesn't really strike me as likely. i'll use the argument that if he happens to be ESTj, then i really just need to expand my understanding of what ESTjs are typically like.

[xyz]

UDP is prolly an LSE. He's still a douchebag though.

[implied]

UDP is prolly an LSE. He's still a douchebag though.

yeah, perhaps i haven't run across enough LSE douchebags. i'd also point out that he seems highly ascetic, whatever his type is. at the present time i don't really see delta as a quadra of excess but nor do i see it as being a quadra which bases itself on self-denial, either.

could you post some pictures again, UDP?

[anndelise]

I'm posting this only because someone else had PM'd something to me and since I was already signed in, might as well make use of it to catch up, etc.

There's a bit of a difference between the UDP we see on the forum and the one that shows throw in his blog/IMs. (most people ARE different between forum vs blog, IM, in person)

The one on the forum comes out seeming like JP with slow moving IJ energy and T base, difficult to distinguish if TS or TN.

His blog on the other hand shows J base P creative with quite a lot of energy, much like EJ energy, as well as Te base, strength, and value and a TS attitude.

IM shows someone who's a bit unsure regarding Fi when he's consciously thinking about it, but a value and subconscious strength when he's NOT over-thinking it. ("subconscious strength" does not mean "socionics 'strong' ") Meaning that it guides him subconsciously, but trips him up when he's consciously thinking about it. IM also suggests an awareness of, but difficulty dealing with, Fe types. It's easy for me to see Fe role coming from that.

Without actually interacting with him in person, I'm unable to tell for sure of Si or Ni.


In summary, without having read his blog, TS would be the most likely choice, with TiSe being a valid option. After having read his blog and IM'd with him for a few months now, TeXi (with TS slightly over TN) is the more obvious choice.

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Creepy-Cyclops]

I see no reason to doubt your self typing UDP. And on the whole I don't see anything here which couldn't be tied in with LSE.

I also don't see what relevance voting has to his typing: wether we confirm it or otherwise

[implied]

I think it's about time to discuss UDP's type. The poll is there for archival reasons; I'm interested in getting a general consensus on whether or not he is an LSE at this time.

Personally, I'm beginning to accept it, despite the barrier of opposition he received last year as he changed from LII to LSE. Thus far, despite his highly questionable methods of reasoning, I've seen nothing that plays contrary to LSE.

I'm interested to see detailed cases for or against LSE (or another type, particularly LII) from those who are interested in UDP's case. Those who aren't, speak by all means; doesn't mean you'll be acknowledged though. But do vote; everyone's vote counts here, and I like big numbers for big issues. Even if you're not willing to contribute a case for a type, still vote.

ETA: apologies, UDP. Fucking forum rules don't allow all caps for your name.

do you still believe that you and UDP are the same type/quadra/whatever?

[Creepy-Cyclops]

do you still believe that you and UDP are the same type/quadra/whatever?

Ezra currently types himself ESTp as per his signature. This is a different quadra than ESTj or INTj. As per Ezra's post, he's starting to believe UDP is ESTj.

[implied]

Ezra currently types himself ESTp as per his signature. This is a different quadra than ESTj or INTj. As per Ezra's post, he's starting to believe UDP is ESTj.

ezra's opinion on his own type changes pretty frequently, as per the most recent posts where he decided he was a Fi-valuer and that, by his estimates, ISFp would be his least likely dual and most likely conflictor. hence my reason for asking. but thank you for pointing out the obvious.

[Ezra]

do you still believe that you and UDP are the same type/quadra/whatever?

I think it's possible, but there is so much I have to learn about people. I'm getting the what-you-thought-you-once-knew-you-actually-have-no-fucking-clue-about syndrome.

[implied]

I think it's possible, but there is so much I have to learn about people. I'm getting the what-you-thought-you-once-knew-you-actually-have-no-fucking-clue-about syndrome.

okay, i was curious, because i know at one point you thought the two of you could be something like mirrors or identicals. or that you two shared some functions.

[ScarlettLux]

I think it's possible, but there is so much I have to learn about people. I'm getting the what-you-thought-you-once-knew-you-actually-have-no-fucking-clue-about syndrome.

It's spreading like a pandemic!

[xyz]

I think it's possible, but there is so much I have to learn about people. I'm getting the what-you-thought-you-once-knew-you-actually-have-no-fucking-clue-about syndrome.

I think this is a common result of "thinking about it too much", or "expecting humans to behave to rigid definitions 100% of the time"

[Creepy-Cyclops]

ezra's opinion on his own type changes pretty frequently, as per the most recent posts where he decided he was a Fi-valuer and that, by his estimates, ISFp would be his least likely dual and most likely conflictor. hence my reason for asking. but thank you for pointing out the obvious.

I dont quite know what you mean by Fi valueing, it seems like a vague terminology as it could refer to an IE as function in a lot of positions. However your sarcasm is noted.

[implied]

I dont quite know what you mean by Fi valueing, it seems like a vague terminology as it could refer to an IE as function in a lot of positions. However your sarcasm is noted.

let me make it more clear. ezra decided that he was ENTj in a most recent thread, which is a type which is in the gamma quadra, which is a quadra that values (as in Fi, as in introverted feeling.) i don't see what's wrong about asking ezra if his current opinion is in line with his signature. i get the idea that, although it may not be correct, unlike dee he doesn't change his signature to reflect his current thoughts on his own type every single time he changes his mind.

[Creepy-bg]

I like UDP too much to participate in this... if he wants to discuss his type, he'll make a thread to discuss his type.