rappers have a gamma attitude

**strrrng** · 03-26-2008, 10:11 PM

really...this attitude is promoted throughout the industry, due to certain functional preferences.

I believe the typical rapper is ESFp...

Se: all about action, always buying the new 'rimz dawg' or whatever, really exercising the external sensations

Te: 'it's all about dat paypuh', nigga!' is the common attitude...we be hustlin for a dolla'...all that stuff

Fi: emotional expression is limited, but 'bein loyal 2 yo dawgz' is highly promoted

Ni: in the rare moments of mental activity, a wistful reflection on the struggles and whatnot...

yeah, so, rappers are gammas!

**BLauritson** · 03-26-2008, 10:25 PM

I'm just glad the reverse isn't true.

**xyz** · 03-26-2008, 10:27 PM

They sure are.

**Park** · 03-26-2008, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by BLauritson

I'm just glad the reverse isn't true.

**marooned** · 03-26-2008, 10:31 PM

Everyone's flocking to Gamma these days. Should I flock here too? I could be an ESI.

**xyz** · 03-26-2008, 10:34 PM

Don't you even think about it Loki. You stay put.

**marooned** · 03-26-2008, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by LokiVanguard

Don't you even think about it Loki. You stay put.

I think you're right. If I were in gamma we wouldn't be in opposing quadras anymore and would have to actually get along. I would miss fighting with you all the time. And something could happen to me like what happened to Subterranean, where he was trying to flock to Gamma but somehow got deflected and ended up in Delta. Thank god the beta quadra is surrounded by a towering wall making escape near impossible!

**xyz** · 03-26-2008, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

I think you're right. If I were in gamma we wouldn't be in opposing quadras anymore and would have to actually get along. I would miss fighting with you all the time. And something could happen to me like what happened to Subterranean, where he was trying to flock to Gamma but somehow got deflected and ended up in Delta. Thank god the beta quadra is surrounded by a towering wall making escape near impossible!

Oh heavens no. We can't have that.

**Brilliand** · 03-26-2008, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

Everyone's flocking to Gamma these days. Should I flock here too? I could be an ESI.

If you jump on the bandwagon, you can't be Gamma.

**Brilliand** · 03-26-2008, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by glamourama

betas are the ones that destroy such walls...

Who builds them? Other Betas?

**xyz** · 03-26-2008, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

That isn't fair!

Yes it is! Quiet you

**crazedrat** · 03-27-2008, 07:51 AM

well, tupac was ENTj-Te I believe

**crazedrat** · 03-27-2008, 07:54 AM

Beta is the quadra fundamentally responsible for every problem currently ailing mankind and the planet.. they are the builders of society. Built in the name of what is considered "better". They are the quadra which cements us into a way of life removed from natural man

**Joy** · 03-27-2008, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by glamourama

the typical rapper attitude is beta.

thank you

**Not A Communist Shill** · 03-27-2008, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

I think you're right. If I were in gamma we wouldn't be in opposing quadras anymore and would have to actually get along. I would miss fighting with you all the time. And something could happen to me like what happened to Subterranean, where he was trying to flock to Gamma but somehow got deflected and ended up in Delta. Thank god the beta quadra is surrounded by a towering wall making escape near impossible!

Shut up bitch. I'm no gamma type. I'm clearly INFj.

**ScarlettLux** · 03-27-2008, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by glamourama

the typical rapper attitude is beta.

it's less about the actions, methods, and knowledge involved to acquire the money,

. it is more about the influence that comes with possessing it,

. with this comes the power structure (

+

) that many rappers are constantly alluding to.

betas are the "portrayers". there is a definite emphasis on dramatic emotional expression (

) in their lyrics and videos. they dwell on the past and future (

.) the lyrics are full of expressions of their beliefs and emotions, often said in a poetic dramatic way, and/or in a way clearly intended to get a reaction and response (

+

.)

all in all, the typical rapper attitude is very much in line with the beta fighting spirit. there are no qualms with "disturbing the peace." the lyrics are often a story telling of their hardships in early life and their later rise to glory. "to suffer and to conquer": that is the beta motto.

Hahaha I've always thought the quintessential thug would be a BAD ASS SLE ... who then falls madly in love and risks it all, even his thug lyfe, for this dreamy little IEI girl he met on the road ...

**Mediator Kam** · 03-27-2008, 09:41 PM

Hahaha I've always thought the quintessential thug would be a BAD ASS SLE ... who then falls madly in love and risks it all, even his thug lyfe, for this dreamy little IEI girl he met on the road ...

That is incredibly endearing.

**olduser** · 03-27-2008, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by ScarlettLux

Hahaha I've always thought the quintessential thug would be a BAD ASS SLE ... who then falls madly in love and risks it all, even his thug lyfe, for this dreamy little IEI girl he met on the road ...

yeah, but raps about how if things go tough she'd be a streetwalker, and would be such a down ass B that she could still love him like a husband even though he's her pimpslashhusband. knawwhatimean?

**ScarlettLux** · 03-27-2008, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by heath

yeah, but raps about how if things go tough she'd be a streetwalker, and would be such a down ass B that she could still love him like a husband even though he's her pimpslashhusband. knawwhatimean?

I feel yah

**ScarlettLux** · 03-27-2008, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by glamourama

lolll @ pimps and hos

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jimuOe3Vvq8

Would you wanna be a ho? Ever? Or better : Would you wanna be a ho for an SLE pimp?

**discojoe** · 03-27-2008, 10:37 PM

rappas got tha gammatude yo it mean $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

**olduser** · 03-27-2008, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by glamourama

nah, I would make a terrible ho

that's not what everyone i've ever met who's ever met you or even seen you tells me.

**olduser** · 03-27-2008, 11:14 PM

you make a great whatever you are whatever that is

**Brilliand** · 03-27-2008, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by dolphin

Don't worry glam, he means that in a good way! :wink:

-He's probably talking about no one, and can therefore make up whatever opinion he likes.
-I think it was a way to make beauty sound insulting.
-Is heath Beta?

**ScarlettLux** · 03-28-2008, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by dolphin

Don't worry glam, he means that in a good way! :wink:

......................

I think....

You know, to be honest this sort of talk makes me more uncomfortable than I want to admit. I would make a terrible Beta.

Buh bye.

Aww lmao... really? That's something odd I noticed in some Alpha quadra members - shying away from any kind of topic/conversation with cruder/more sexual leanings ... even slightly. Lack of

? Tbh, it makes me see them as silly

**ScarlettLux** · 03-28-2008, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Brilliand

-He's probably talking about no one, and can therefore make up whatever opinion he likes.
-I think it was a way to make beauty sound insulting.
-Is heath Beta?

heath is his own quadra

**machintruc** · 03-28-2008, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by strrrng

yeah, so, rappers are gammas!

Thank you, dude, you gave me one more reason to hate Gammas.

**Brilliand** · 03-28-2008, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by ScarlettLux

Aww lmao... really? That's something odd I noticed in some Alpha quadra members - shying away from any kind of topic/conversation with cruder/more sexual leanings ... even slightly. Lack of

? Tbh, it makes me see them as silly

Huh, I've always considered those who joked about sex crude and immoral, but that could explain it. It applies to my most-likely-Delta parents as well.

I do sometimes discuss sex in a purely academic way.

**ScarlettLux** · 03-28-2008, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Brilliand

Huh, I've always considered those who joked about sex crude and immoral, but that could explain it. It applies to my most-likely-Delta parents as well.

I do sometimes discuss sex in a purely academic way.

But... why would it be immoral? We are being immoral in this thread? Do you never just enjoy yourself and have a laugh at sexual matters? It's a natural part of life, something pleasurable. I don't think it should only be discussed academically ... that would make things very dry.

**olduser** · 03-28-2008, 02:33 AM

yeah, sex should make people delightfully bashful, or put them in good humour. why the all the guilt and shame?

**Brilliand** · 03-28-2008, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by ScarlettLux

But... why would it be immoral? We are being immoral in this thread? Do you never just enjoy yourself and have a laugh at sexual matters? It's a natural part of life, something pleasurable. I don't think it should only be discussed academically ... that would make things very dry.

Well, I have a Biblical argument - Ephesians 5:3-4: "But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving."

Of course I'm just grabbing things from wherever I can to support my

PoLR.

Well, for me there are so many random topics that I don't have to depend on any one thing for laughs. Sex jokes can also seem a bit unoriginal, like you're reciting an old cliche.

**olduser** · 03-28-2008, 02:58 AM

definitely. citing the bible is totally cliche too.

**ScarlettLux** · 03-28-2008, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Brilliand

Well, I have a Biblical argument - Ephesians 5:3-4: "But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving."

Of course I'm just grabbing things from wherever I can to support my

PoLR.

Well, for me there are so many random topics that I don't have to depend on any one thing for laughs. Sex jokes can also seem a bit unoriginal, like you're reciting an old cliche.

Lol I don't believe in God, sucks for you, your argument is now null and void for me.

**Brilliand** · 03-28-2008, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by heath

definitely. citing the bible is totally cliche too.

Not supposed to be funny.

Originally Posted by ScarlettLux

Lol I don't believe in God, sucks for you, your argument is now null and void for me.

Well, you asked about morality. Where else will you get your morality from?

Yes,

, of course... doesn't work for me.

**olduser** · 03-28-2008, 03:33 AM

well, you could definitely argue living in most western societies that we derive our morals from the christian bible, but i think that is changing and we are beginning to derive our morals from facts and the consequences of actions(how can something be bad if when i do it there are no bad consequences like bruises and cuts). How can sex be immoral there are no real consequences? of course a certain degree of psychological stability is required for this lack of consequences to exist(a lack of something can exist? weird!). anyway, societies that derive all of their legal code from things like holy scriptures fail miserably.

**Brilliand** · 03-28-2008, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by heath

societies that derive all of their legal code from things like holy scriptures fail miserably.

Eh? That's not true. Except in the sense that all societies fail eventually, of course... but generally that unbreakable code holds the society together, even when the code is a load of nonsense. (Shows the social value of

I guess)

Originally Posted by heath

well, you could definitely argue living in most western societies that we derive our morals from the christian bible, but i think that is changing and we are beginning to derive our morals from facts and the consequences of actions(how can something be bad if when i do it there are no bad consequences like bruises and cuts). How can sex be immoral there are no real consequences? of course a certain degree of psychological stability is required for this lack of consequences to exist.

So we're moving from Alpha to Gamma? Could be. I may have to flee the country.

Of course I don't see the Fi in this either - you're basing your belief system on irrational introverted elements?

Need to use static ones to clear up the moral law.

**olduser** · 03-28-2008, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Brilliand

Eh? That's not true. Except in the sense that all societies fail eventually, of course... but generally that unbreakable code holds the society together, even when the code is a load of nonsense. (Shows the social value of

I guess)

So we're moving from Alpha to Gamma? Could be. I may have to flee the country.

Of course I don't see the Fi in this either - you're basing your belief system on irrational introverted elements?

Need to use static ones to clear up the moral law.

society is held together by the modern lifestyle and it's requirement of groups of people working together. nomads can't enjoy the opulence that is a sewage system. anyhow, religion is fine. sets of beliefs practices whatever. but i don't think it should be a guide for society-- i think a good guide for society would be a public health report.

**Brilliand** · 03-28-2008, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by heath

society is held together by the modern lifestyle and it's requirement of groups of people working together. nomads can't enjoy the opulence that is a sewage system. anyhow, religion is fine. sets of beliefs practices whatever. but i don't think it should be a guide for society-- i think a good guide for society would be a public health report.

I think you're INTp, this strikes me as quasi-identity (always the chance you're just parroting though). Well, hopefully society will collapse one of these days and we nomads will have the limelight back.

The Lord is coming soon, to tear society to pieces!

**olduser** · 03-28-2008, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by Brilliand

I think you're INTp, this strikes me as quasi-identity (always the chance you're just parroting though). Well, hopefully society will collapse one of these days and we nomads will have the limelight back.

The Lord is coming soon, to tear society to pieces!

i'm being argumentative. good luck The Lord.

**strrrng** · 03-28-2008, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by crazedrat

well, tupac was ENTj-Te I believe

nah, he's so beta, an Fe-INFp

anyway, in response to whoever said the prototypical rapper would be a bad-ass SLE, I can see that. tupac was one of the realest and he's beta

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