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    Because ESE's are so f***in' cool you know... What do you think of them ?

    Non-Alphas welcome. Us Alphas like people.

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    No, no they are not cool.


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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    What do you think of them ?
    I enjoy the depth of conversations with them muchly. I also love how they've done and tried everything in this life, know every single person on the planet and how everyone loves them... they're just simply great!
    ENTp... love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllaC View Post
    I enjoy the depth of conversations with them muchly. I also love how they've done and tried everything in this life, know every single person on the planet and how everyone loves them... they're just simply great!
    Even ILI's like them, because they're "hot" or something.

    But ILI's are stupid sex maniacs.

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    my best friend is ESE... fucking good people

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    I love ESFj's at times, very physical people.
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    they love sex, again
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    Seriously, which normal human being doesn't enjoy/love sex.

    If they don't get them to a doctor or something, they need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea View Post
    Seriously, which normal human being doesn't enjoy/love sex.

    If they don't get them to a doctor or something, they need it.
    i think what lokivanguard is referring to is something entirely different than just enjoying/loving sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    i think what lokivanguard is referring to is something entirely different than just enjoying/loving sex.
    it was in response to machintruc's post.

    umm. nvm.
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    ESE friend: Always bubbly, even when stating downed-spirits. Not malicious, friendly regardless the situation, verbal expression has a slight, self-detrimental edge to it. Can fall into cliched, "I'm not pretty/smart/tall/healthy/etc. enough" but will drop it when pressed (and doesn't get offended when pressed). Very intelligent and has an active mind. Wide range of interests, too.
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    I have a male ESE friend, always got good stuff to talk about, wide range of interests and suprisingly caring and sensitive, in a natural way. He's cool.

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    I'm married to an ESE. He's awesome, I love him.

    friendly, smart, very communicative, physically affectionate, loves to be helpful, works hard, completely reliable, always up for anything, etcetera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I'm married to an ESE.
    I think it'd be cool to meet your hubby...lol. From all you've ever said about him here I'd imagine he's the closest to "me" identical that I've heard anything about up to this point...lol.

    I would bet $100 that if we both walked into a room where there is only one chair, we'd both insist that the other take the seat (and probably almost arguing about it) and then end up standing next to eachother for the duration of time we were in that room. Things like that are what I think of if I ever met "myself"... lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    I think it'd be cool to meet your hubby...lol. From all you've ever said about him here I'd imagine he's the closest to "me" identical that I've heard anything about up to this point...lol.

    I would bet $100 that if we both walked into a room where there is only one chair, we'd both insist that the other take the seat (and probably almost arguing about it) and then end up standing next to eachother for the duration of time we were in that room. Things like that are what I think of if I ever met "myself"... lol.
    Extremely likely, yes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    So that's what I'm supposed to be looking for?



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    sexy.
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    ESE is probably the girliest type

    When people think "girly" they think ESE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    ESE is probably the girliest type

    When people think "girly" they think ESE.
    I agree. I'm a little bitch, but I've made peace with that.

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    i dont think that all ese girls are "girly" i have many guy friends but i will admit the main reason that i have so many guy friends is because most girls do not like me. i can watch sports, i love camping dont like the bugs.. im pretty laid back untill someone really continues to push my buttons and then i lose it has to be something very important to me too! wow this really made no sense... yes we are sex crazed.. we cant help it its like breathing we need it.. i get really beeotchy if i dont get it anyone who knows me knows when its been a while. im not the type of person to sleep around so ill wait till i find someone who i think can keep up with me, and ill go from there and if not i always have myself! hehehe
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    Pretty sure my sister is ESE.. she's one of the most kind-hearted and resolute people I know. She's had a bit of a codependent streak up until recently, but she's starting to live for herself and getting a lot more out of life in the process.
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    From my observations
    ESE-Si is more boyish
    ESE-Fe is more girlie

    But they're not what I would call IEI girlie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    From my observations
    ESE-Si is more boyish
    ESE-Fe is more girlie

    But they're not what I would call IEI girlie.
    yeah that's good actually! I agree with that. My husband is ESE-Fe and he's that way in a sense. I mean, sometimes we joke that I'm the man in the relationship because he's always wanting to talk and getting offended if I don't feel like talking to him or whatever. And like after sex I'll want to go right to sleep and he wants to chat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    yeah that's good actually! I agree with that. My husband is ESE-Fe and he's that way in a sense. I mean, sometimes we joke that I'm the man in the relationship because he's always wanting to talk and getting offended if I don't feel like talking to him or whatever. And like after sex I'll want to go right to sleep and he wants to chat.
    ESE's talk a lot, but they complain when others talk too much too.

    I think I like people that talk a lot, it's fun for me to listen and interrupt occasionally, I'm entertained and I am getting attention without having to do anything at all. So a big win for me!

    I can talk a lot about my ideas and such, but it's always serious stuff, and not so much story telling.

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    ^^^ what is above is very true at least for myself i do complain sometimes when some is talking too much and i know im always talking. i also have a tendency to call people out when they are being rude and sometimes i may not notice it but someone will tell later that i was the one being rude!
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    ESE's are great. they are so friendly and helpful. as a matter of fact, they cannot not help. it's like they have to. they plan fun times, get everybody involved, stand up for themselves and their friends, hold people accountable. they're funny and playful. they listen and know how people feel. i feel like they are a breath of fresh air.

    ps they do complain a lot though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    ps they do complain a lot though.
    Seems almost like the positivists are the complainers... as though... they give the problems to the negativists, and the negativists focus on them (in an ego-block sort of focus, i.e. they aren't asking for help dealing with the problems [unless they think the person legitimately holds the key], whereas the positivists are).

    Types taken into account: ESE, SLI, LII, ILI



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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    ESE's are great. they are so friendly and helpful. as a matter of fact, they cannot not help. it's like they have to. they plan fun times, get everybody involved, stand up for themselves and their friends, hold people accountable. they're funny and playful. they listen and know how people feel. i feel like they are a breath of fresh air.

    ps they do complain a lot though.
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    Old thread, I know, but I wanted to express some appreciation.


    Today I had to make some scheduling changes on an ESFj friend (i.e. cancel on her). I wrote her asking her not to hate me for it. She wrote back:

    [Minde]... I don't think it's possible for me to hate you...

    even if you trashed my room, stole my car, and spent all my money...

    Even if you beat me up and left me for dead along side the road...

    even if you ate squeaky cheese in front of me with out sharing...

    even if you turned into a Vampire and started biting people....

    Even if you moved to the Middle East and tried to be a terrorist...

    Even if you moved far far away and never spoke to me again...

    I would still love you... (er... or at least not hate you)
    I feel all warm and fuzzy now.


    (I think she's Si subtype, btw.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Old thread, I know, but I wanted to express some appreciation.


    Today I had to make some scheduling changes on an ESFj friend (i.e. cancel on her). I wrote her asking her not to hate me for it. She wrote back:



    I feel all warm and fuzzy now.


    (I think she's Si subtype, btw.)
    your friend doesnt really seem all that normal to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    an ESE girl I know once ran out in the rain with her boyfriend and was frolicking and laughing like a child.
    I would call that a turn-on. ESEs

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewZ View Post
    I would call that a turn-on. ESEs
    Indeed. It's hard to find people who truly appreciate the value of frolicking.
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    I don't really know how to talk in complete sentences in real life. I guess ESEs would be fun to have around.

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    As for ESE appreciation, when you meet a very caring and sincere ESE, they're one of a kind. Perhaps the coolest aspect of ESE is their altruistic abilities. They can see right into your heart and well if your a good natured individual that can mean alot, and even if your not, they will steer you in the right direction. Basically they provide truth, subjective truth. What I appreciate about ESE abilities is they combine emotional well-being and couple that with sensation. I find there is a mystical experience whenever I hear what my true feelings are but they are being expressed from the mouth of a ESE, especially a female ESE. Actually, I have two ESE females in mind who had this uncanny ability to see what emotion or mood I'm experiencing even when I was not fully conscious of it. I had complete trust and respect for them. There was definitely that sense of completion, like they were holding the missing piece.

    Another aspect I find endearing about ESE is their energy. They seem to be able to appropriate thier energy to the situation, weather that be to make things more exciting or cool things down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    Indeed. It's hard to find people who truly appreciate the value of frolicking.
    So true. My SLI has sort of random moments of playfulness. If it came to frolicking in the rain, I would probably do the folicking around him.
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    I adore ESEs.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

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    i don't. I had this one single experience and it was so overwhelming. She wanted to make jewelry for me and would not take no as an answer but aaaw she could not figure out my style and likings. She was very hasty and i don't appreciate Fe I can't respond to.That is biased Fe that makes me mumble short cliched phrases in order to appear normal.Eventually,she masterfully led me to understand that she had enough of me.

    However,i think my brother is ESE and his random imitations crack me up.
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