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    Well, at least I think UDP is ESTj. Are there any others? It's a shame, since I do enjoy discussions done by ESTjs in real life. They really get into what they are talking about.

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    smilex is the only Te-ESTj. Too bad there isn't any Si-ESTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    smilex is the only Te-ESTj. Too bad there isn't any Si-ESTj.
    Oh, I thought UDP was ESTj. So then there is only one? the highlander...

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    I think UDP is ESTj.
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    Eunice thinks I am INTj, mostly because of what the Socoionix crowd/Ashton says.
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    i still don't see UDP as ESTj. however, there is username aut0 who is a self-typed ESTj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    i still don't see UDP as ESTj. however, there is username aut0 who is a self-typed ESTj.
    What type do you think I am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    What type do you think I am
    your type isn't dependent on my opinion of UDP's type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    your type isn't dependent on my opinion of UDP's type.
    I didn't ask you what type UDP was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    I didn't ask you what type UDP was!
    oh, i still think you're ISTp then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    oh, i still think you're ISTp then.
    Yeah same here. Why'd you think I couldn't be a F type tho?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Yeah same here. Why'd you think I couldn't be a F type tho?
    i thought i already explained why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    i thought i already explained why?
    A little, but not why you thought that, if that maketh sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    A little, but not why you thought that, if that maketh sense.
    it doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    it doesn't.
    Examples of why you thought that, would be useful in my type analysis, is all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Examples of why you thought that, would be useful in my type analysis, is all
    how about, "you use more t than f."
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    how about, "you use more t than f."
    Do you think T types are demanding, insensitive and cutting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    i still don't see UDP as ESTj. however, there is username aut0 who is a self-typed ESTj.

    actually he decided he was SLI. and then he left.


    the result is that there are no LSEs on this forum, at least none that are important. (i doubt UDP is one).

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Eunice thinks I am INTj, mostly because of what the Socoionix crowd/Ashton says.
    Well, that's what you have assumed without understanding how I have arrived to that conclusion. I have always seen you as a Ti dominant type and my conclusion is independent of what the others have typed you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    Well, that's what you have assumed without understanding how I have arrived to that conclusion. I have always seen you as a Ti dominant type and my conclusion is independent of what the others have typed you.
    Isn't that what you said - you cited Ashton and socionix. You also thought you I was Ti dominant as well, yes, you have said that for some time. But I did not 'assume' the bit about socionix- you said it outrightly.


    FWIW, I don't really care to talk of my type anymore.
    If you think I value certain functions, that's great.
    If you want to know why I think I am LSE, just ask me.


    But just to humor niffweed, do you really think Kristiina and I are duals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    But just to humor niffweed, do you really think Kristiina and I are duals?
    Irrelevant. Ashton thinks that Kristiina is ISTj.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Irrelevant. Ashton thinks that Kristiina is ISTj.
    yes. precisely. ashton is god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    smilex is the only Te-ESTj.
    Many believe he is an LSI-Ti.

    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Eunice thinks I am INTj, mostly because of what the Socoionix crowd/Ashton says.
    I think there are a variety of other factors involved. Firstly, there is your seeming attraction to Fe, which people often reference. Secondly, many people on the forum observe little to no Se in you. Thirdly, there are your constant references to times you've spent with members of other quadras, particularly Beta quadra, and these people apparently haven't been repellent to you, even though they value the complete opposite of what you do (in terms of functions). Fourthly, people are sceptical of the way you will continually reference sources concerning the LSE, in order to justify your self-typing, instead of contributing your own opinion, and then refusing to discuss your type, as though it doesn't interest you in the slightest; as though you'd rather be doing something more worthwile; more beneficial; more efficient with your time. The truth is, you can't cover up the facts of personality. Your focus on Te seems thoroughly forced when it comes to discussing your activities off the internet. You don't play games because "you have better things to be doing with your time". And then there's that quote that ScarlettLux has in her signature. You don't like social interraction? Come on. Is that because LSEs don't like Fe, and thus anything related to being friends with people and enjoying oneself extensively? As a side point, as you know, ScarlettLux is currently considering SEE. If others can see it, it could be true, and considering your relationship with her (online or offline; it makes no difference), LII would not seem out of place.

    And to clear it up, most people on this forum believe the Socionix crowd formulated and currently discuss a skewered version of socionics. I'd like to know Eunice's opinion on the matter, actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    however, there is username aut0 who is a self-typed ESTj.
    I've spoken to aut0 a few times, and I could see LSE. It's a shame he doesn't post here anymore; he was a nice guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Do you think T types are demanding, insensitive and cutting?
    I know you weren't asking me, but I think ethical or logical types can be demanding, insensitive and cutting. They simply have different reasons for being these things.

    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    actually he decided he was SLI.
    Did he?

    the result is that there are no LSEs on this forum[...]
    I second that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    yes. precisely. ashton is god.
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    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Thirdly, there are your constant references to times you've spent with members of other quadras, particularly Beta quadra, and these people apparently haven't been repellent to you, even though they value the complete opposite of what you do (in terms of functions).
    Are you insane?



    Are you retarded Ezra? Whaaaa?




    This, folks, is why I had gotten so pissed off at the forum for a while.

    My god that's so funny



    haaaaahaaa you - you actually think your big post there is real, don't you. You think all of that is true, right? You believe what you said?

    hooolllyyy shit man



    PS: I'll "respond" to this after I get back from my ride to uni. You so made my day, thank you Ezra.
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    ... ...

    Okay, I wasn't expecting the thread to turn out this way, it was just a simple question!... Anyway, it's still a shame there isn't more ESTj input, I might be more involved here if there was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sereno View Post
    ... ...

    Okay, I wasn't expecting the thread to turn out this way, it was just a simple question!... Anyway, it's still a shame there isn't more ESTj input, I might be more involved here if there was.
    Yeah i think the ENFp's on the forum are lucky because we have heaps of our duals on here! Very cool. My ESTj friend doesn't believe in socionics. In fact he has bagged me behind my back to my ENTj friend about it. My ENTj friend does believe it though so he sticks up for me.

    Its just the way of the ESTj though. Hes too busy working 13 hour shifts at the hospital to think about anything else
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    I still don't see how others can be swayed from their type based on what others say.

    Edit: Meatburger, I think duals here should interact more often. Maybe duals would get along better out there in that scary real world?
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    ESTJ's don't exist in the online world.

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    By all accounts ISTp's, ESFps and ESTp's shouldn't either, but, here they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Are you insane?



    Are you retarded Ezra? Whaaaa?




    This, folks, is why I had gotten so pissed off at the forum for a while.

    My god that's so funny



    haaaaahaaa you - you actually think your big post there is real, don't you. You think all of that is true, right? You believe what you said?

    hooolllyyy shit man



    PS: I'll "respond" to this after I get back from my ride to uni. You so made my day, thank you Ezra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Many believe he is an LSI-Ti.
    I think there are a variety of other factors involved....Secondly, many people on the forum observe little to no Se in you.
    Maybe because he's almost always online interacting with Se-POLR EII's?

    Fourthly, people are sceptical of the way you will continually reference sources concerning the LSE, in order to justify your self-typing, instead of contributing your own opinion,
    Again, maybe this is a characteristic of LSE's?
    If he were LII wouldn't he have loads of NeTi to write his own self-analysis description?

    and then refusing to discuss your type, as though it doesn't interest you in the slightest; as though you'd rather be doing something more worthwile; more beneficial; more efficient with your time. The truth is, you can't cover up the facts of personality. Your focus on Te seems thoroughly forced when it comes to discussing your activities off the internet. You don't play games because "you have better things to be doing with your time".
    Whoa. Contradiction? Sounds like you're making a case for Te in the first comment.
    So apparently you have observed Te in the forum, but are making a case against its existence from an un-observable description of its manifestations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Did he?
    http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...d17/clist#aut0

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    @ Ritella: "Many believe he is an LSI-Ti." - that comment was about smilex. Not me.

    So combining that quote with the big about Se polr is not really applicable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    @ Ritella: "Many believe he is an LSI-Ti." - that comment was about smilex. Not me.

    So combining that quote with the big about Se polr is not really applicable.
    actually that sentence was just there by mistake and had nothing to do with my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger View Post
    Yeah i think the ENFp's on the forum are lucky because we have heaps of our duals on here! Very cool. My ESTj friend doesn't believe in socionics. In fact he has bagged me behind my back to my ENTj friend about it. My ENTj friend does believe it though so he sticks up for me.

    Its just the way of the ESTj though. Hes too busy working 13 hour shifts at the hospital to think about anything else
    Yeah they are pretty busy all the time... But I do think that there have to be some out there that would post in a forum like this. If there were, I might also reconsider how I'm not that attracted to them, because I might not be understanding the things that go on in their heads, etc, I guess. I would definitely want to know more, and not those types of vague descriptions that don't make any sense to me. Of course, I do realize that everybody is different, even if they do share a type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    I actually wish there were more LSEs here too, just to see how they "are." actually it would be ideal if there were plenty of members of each type posting here, so we could have a decent sampling. I would love that.

    we could do with more ESxjs, ISxjs, ESxps. perhaps ENTxs as well (there are only a few around but they do post quite often.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    haha, I do sometimes! but like, there's always the possibility I could've typed her wrong. I know a lot of people here wouldn't take my word for it that she's LSE. I've tried mentioning socionics to her but she seems HIGHLY uninterested, so I doubt I could get her to start posting here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    haha, I do sometimes! but like, there's always the possibility I could've typed her wrong. I know a lot of people here wouldn't take my word for it that she's LSE. I've tried mentioning socionics to her but she seems HIGHLY uninterested, so I doubt I could get her to start posting here...
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    Yeah, the guy who introduced me to all this was an ESTj boss, who started telling me about MBTT outside of work and typed me.

    At a later date I tried telling him about socionics and he wasn't interested. The way he saw it was that MBTT told him what people would be good at in their jobs and gave him a little insight on how people think. In regards to socionics, well I don't really think he cared if people in the workplace got on ie intertype, because in a work environment it's never gonna run smoothly so he saw no practical use for it.

    Funnily enough I agreed with him, but I still kept an interest going, sort of as a hobby, and well, here I am

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