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    Default New +/- descriptions

    +Se(Extraverted Sensing): Conformity, defensive-minded, retaliation, submission, performing routine tasks, willpower.
    -Se(Extraverted Sensing): Non-conformity, offensive minded, aggression, impulsiveness, lack of will, anti-routine, leadership.

    +Ne(Extraveted Intuition): Relativism, multiple perspectives, open-mindedness, multiple perspectives.
    -Ne(Extraverted Intuition): Absolutism, static viewpoint, single perspective, moral absolutes.

    +Ni(Introverted Intuition): Normalness, reflection on past, prediction, confidence, evolution, fearlessness.
    -Ni (Introverted Intuition): Originality, possibilities of the future, fear, novelty, creativity.

    +Si(Introverted Sensing): Exploration of senses, attraction to euphoria, enjoyment of senses.
    -Si(Introverted Sensing): Routine health care, orderly hygiene.

    +Ti(Introverted Thinking): Implication, rules, collectivism, laws, holism, common sense logic(acceptance of systems).
    -Ti(Introverted Thinking): Analysis, anarchy, individualism, reductionism, anti-staticism

    +Te(Extraverted Thinking): Economic behavior, perfectionism, organized behavior.
    -Te(Extraverted Thinking): Expenditure, chaotic behavior, disorganized manner.

    +Fe(Extraverted Feeling): Playfulness, casual emotions, loving manner, need to be friendly
    -Fe(Extraverted Feeling): Reserved emotions, quietness, sarcasm

    +Fi(Introverted Feeling): Optimism, love, positivism, sympathy, compassion.
    -Fi(Introverted Feeling): Negativism, distaste, depressive outlook, criticalness(internally), disassociation from relations.
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    How is this different from what you previously posted?
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    So the general trend is, + is the individual reaching out to the world, and - is the individual closing themselves off against it. + says "subject reaches out to object", - says "object reaches out to subject".

    Thought of a neat analogy contrasting + with - Ni. It's like the two vectors of a space shooter game: one is the ship going forward with the scroll of the playfield; the other is the environment itself scrolling backward against the ship. For example, -Ni sees that huge wall coming up just ahead, and says "It's coming and I'd better get out of its way." +Ni sees the paths the subject (the ship) can take to get through the wall. (as safe positions)

    The role of the ship and of the actual opponents are actually matters of Se in the context of the Ni scrolling. +Se is the subject (the ship) moving in the field delimmited by the scroll: although it has choice of movement (will) it can only move so far in a given timeframe, and the choices to move "up" for example, limit the choices for moving down safely given a presently observable timeframe. -Se is on the one hand the oncoming ships against the subject, and on the the other the movement of the ship to avoid the enemy. Whenever will is being exercised from a relative viewpoint, it is +Se; whenever it is being countered, it is -Se. Therefore action = +Se and reaction = -Se.

    But notice that there are actually two instances of each Se aspect type: one -Se relative to either subject (the ship and the opponent group both being subjects depending on which PoV is taken) and +Se relative to either's effort to affect the opposing subject. (to either of which the other subject is the object.) The ship sees one -Se aspect in the coming of the ships (a threat or "evil") and another in its parlay to their advance. (-Se) It sees +Se to the extent it is projecting its own firepower outward against the ships. Actually it would probably make more sense however, to denote the oncoming -Se as a subjectively negative +Se which -Se is moving to accommodate for. (this is where Model-B gives way and the groundwork for Model-C is laid).

    In a lot of space shooters the oncoming ships fire off shots of their own. I've always held my own against the oncoming waves but when the shots come out, I die off fast. I suspect this is due to my inability to process all the different forms of Se coming at me at once. (you might say that the capacity of the enemy to both advance and shoot grants it two dimensions of will). That argues for 1) Bukalov's dimension theory being accurate and 2) universal INTj ineptness when playing highly active space shooters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta
    +Se(Extraverted Sensing): Conformity, defensive-minded, retaliation, submission, performing routine tasks, willpower.
    -Se(Extraverted Sensing): Non-conformity, offensive minded, aggression, impulsiveness, lack of will, anti-routine, leadership. attention: all alphas and betas are impulsive non-conformists and all gammas and deltas are boring, routinized conformists

    +Ne(Extraveted Intuition): Relativism, multiple perspectives, open-mindedness, multiple perspectives.
    -Ne(Extraverted Intuition): Absolutism, static viewpoint, single perspective, moral absolutes. clearly all alphas and betas are open-minded, while gammas and deltas cannot see the big picture in their linear way of thinking

    +Ni(Introverted Intuition): Normalness, reflection on past, prediction, confidence, evolution, fearlessness.
    -Ni (Introverted Intuition): Originality, possibilities of the future, fear, novelty, creativity. alphas and betas are creative and original while gammas and deltas only want routine and normality...

    +Si(Introverted Sensing): Exploration of senses, attraction to euphoria, enjoyment of senses.
    -Si(Introverted Sensing): Routine health care, orderly hygiene. the only impartial, albeit bullshit, description

    +Ti(Introverted Thinking): Implication, rules, collectivism, laws, holism, common sense logic(acceptance of systems).
    -Ti(Introverted Thinking): Analysis, anarchy, individualism, reductionism, anti-staticism
    alphas and deltas are individualistic while betas and gammas accept ideas and make stereotypes

    +Te(Extraverted Thinking): Economic behavior, perfectionism, organized behavior.
    -Te(Extraverted Thinking): Expenditure, chaotic behavior, disorganized manner.
    yeah, cause ENTjs and ISTjs are so disorganized, right?

    +Fe(Extraverted Feeling): Playfulness, casual emotions, loving manner, need to be friendly
    -Fe(Extraverted Feeling): Reserved emotions, quietness, sarcasm
    alpha SF's are not playful....they are emotionally subdued

    +Fi(Introverted Feeling): Optimism, love, positivism, sympathy, compassion.
    -Fi(Introverted Feeling): Negativism, distaste, depressive outlook, criticalness(internally), disassociation from relations. betas and gammas are moody and unable to feel love
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    Man Hitta I swear you should just once take what people are telling you here and MAKE it work for you. I know you want to see them as stupid and such, but they are simply seeing a side of reality you are not allowing yourself to be privy to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaullidg
    Man Hitta I swear you should just once take what people are telling you here and MAKE it work for you. I know you want to see them as stupid and such, but they are simply seeing a side of reality you are not allowing yourself to be privy to.
    To me, he isn't even "smart" enough to apply the same philosophies he preached in his video (relativism and whatnot) to himself; he simply states his ideas and rejects all opposing opinions with an insular rationalization of his 'originality' being suppressed.
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