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    Not to be taken too seriously. Other names may be used.

    --- Redneck
    --0 Guardian
    --+ Warrior
    -0- Artist
    -00 Cop
    -0+ Advocate
    -+- Romantic
    -+0 Cow-boy
    -++ Fighter
    0-- Librarian
    0-0 Bureaucrat
    0-+ Achiever
    00- Geek
    000 Administrator
    00+ Trader
    0+- Nerd
    0+0 Secretary
    0++ Model
    +-- Peacemaker
    +-0 Giver
    +-+ Socialite
    +0- Diplomat
    +00 Helper
    +0+ Clown
    ++- Psychologist
    ++0 Seducer
    +++ Entertainer

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    what is this phi business anyway?

    can somebody link me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    I need to find out my phi type.
    As a Social Four, your Phitype is -0-.

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    I'm a redneck? How did that happen lol.
    Are you really a SP Four ? A school case I have is Kelly Osbourne.

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    I'm a 5 Sp, so I'm a Librarian, which is preferable to being a Nerd or a Geek I guess (if I had a different variant).

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    I'm supposedly an entertainer
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    Honestly, this site is total bullcrap.

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    I guess I'm some sort of artistic diplomat.
    INFj

    9w1 sp/sx

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    Quote Originally Posted by tereg View Post
    I guess I'm some sort of artistic diplomat.
    It's very, very difficult to be -0- if you're Extrotim.

    -+- Extrotims are already very difficult to find. Then, -0- Extrotims...

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    It's very, very difficult to be -0- if you're Extrotim.

    -+- Extrotims are already very difficult to find. Then, -0- Extrotims...
    I took a fresh look at Nine and Four tonight. I think Nine >> Four for me, which means that I would be +0-.
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    I'm either Redneck, Artist, or Romantic. The first is amusing, considering that I am hardly redneck.
    Johari/Nohari

    "Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis View Post
    I'm either Redneck, Artist, or Romantic. The first is amusing, considering that I am hardly redneck.
    I called SP Fours "rednecks" because of their tendency to play baddies, and to seek conflict with the world. They don't seek strength, unlike Sixes or Eights. They just seek conflict, because their ego is CONFLICT. They are caracterised by lazy pushiness. They usually look like alcoholic junkies or such. An example of --- is Kelly Osbourne.

    --- Extrotims are virtually impossible to find. -+- Extrotims are already quite uncommon (like +-+ Introtims), and mostly EIE's. But I think IEE is possible.

    I think you're most likely -+-, if however you're really S-D-.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    I called SP Fours "rednecks" because of their tendency to play baddies, and to seek conflict with the world. They don't seek strength, unlike Sixes or Eights. They just seek conflict, because their ego is CONFLICT. They are caracterised by lazy pushiness. They usually look like alcoholic junkies or such. An example of --- is Kelly Osbourne.

    --- Extrotims are virtually impossible to find. -+- Extrotims are already quite uncommon (like +-+ Introtims), and mostly EIE's. But I think IEE is possible.

    I think you're most likely -+-, if however you're really S-D-.
    I see. Thanks for explaining. You'll probably want to come up with a different term for it; "redneck" tends to mean a backwards, country type (read:hick). You may have already known that, but I was saying it just in case.

    My variant can depend on which test I take; however, there's good chance for my being sx variant. So what is that type's description?
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Not to be taken too seriously. Other names may be used.

    --- Redneck
    --0 Guardian
    --+ Warrior
    -0- Artist
    -00 Cop
    -0+ Advocate
    -+- Romantic
    -+0 Cow-boy
    -++ Fighter
    0-- Librarian
    0-0 Bureaucrat
    0-+ Achiever
    00- Geek
    000 Administrator
    00+ Trader
    0+- Nerd
    0+0 Secretary
    0++ Model
    +-- Peacemaker
    +-0 Giver
    +-+ Socialite
    +0- Diplomat
    +00 Helper
    +0+ Clown
    ++- Psychologist
    ++0 Seducer
    +++ Entertainer
    What am I, machintruc? Names appeal more than these little symbols. Warrior, Fighter and Administrator bear most resemblance based on their names.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    what is this phi business anyway?

    can somebody link me?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_and_phi_type_figurine
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    This.

    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    basically the "code" is in the sequence: S, N, D.
    every letter can be either -, 0, or +, according to what's below.
    see what letter is what symbol and use machintruc's first post

    S- : Four, Six, Eight
    S0 : One, Three, Five
    S+ : Two, Seven, Nine

    N- : Preservational Variant
    N0 : Social Variant
    N+ : Intimate Variant

    D- : Four, Five, and Nine
    D0 : One, Two, and Six
    D+ : Three, Seven and Eight
    And this.
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    Yep, I'm a Warrior.

    You got a description, machintruc?
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salawa View Post
    Can -+- work for 5w4 sx/sp?
    -+- means "Intimate Four".

    These are not correlations. All -+-'s are Intimate Fours, all 00+'s are Social Twos, and so on.

    If you're Intimate Five, you're 0+-.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Yep, I'm a Warrior.

    You got a description, machintruc?
    I don't think you're likely to be --+ if you're really SLE. -0+ or -++ are more plausible. If really SLE --+, you're a rare exception, as --+ consists mostly of LSI's, ESI's, and LSE's.

    I called --+ "Warrior" because that's the image they give : brutal energy to establish justice. Think of Russell Crowe in his role in "Gladiator". That's a clear example. Milosevic and Stalin are relevant examples too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    I don't think you're likely to be --+ if you're really SLE. -0+ or -++ are more plausible. If really SLE --+, you're a rare exception, as --+ consists mostly of LSI's, ESI's, and LSE's.

    I called --+ "Warrior" because that's the image they give : brutal energy to establish justice. Think of Russell Crowe in his role in "Gladiator". That's a clear example. Milosevic and Stalin are relevant examples too.
    Well, I am definitely a self-preservationist Eight.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Here's another example of unhealthy --+. He's not a bold warrior (except in some episodes), but a lazy alcoholic. Besides, he likes to fight with his -+0 wife. Nowadays, --+'s look mostly like this.

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    -++ for me then? (8w7 sx)
    SEE-Se, 852 sx/so

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    S-/S+ : Low/High motivation for Inputting
    N-/N+ : Low/High motivation for Processing
    D-/D+ : Low/High motivation for Outputting
    According to this I'd be -++
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    S-/S+ : Low/High motivation for Inputting
    N-/N+ : Low/High motivation for Processing
    D-/D+ : Low/High motivation for Outputting

    What does "inputting," "processing," and "outputting" mean in this context?

    I don't understand how I would know which phi-type I am.

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    possibilities for me:

    -00 Cop
    -0+ Advocate
    -+0 Cow-boy
    -++ Fighter
    000 Administrator
    00+ Trader
    0+0 Secretary
    0++ Model
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    S-/S+ : Low/High motivation for Inputting
    N-/N+ : Low/High motivation for Processing
    D-/D+ : Low/High motivation for Outputting

    What does "inputting," "processing," and "outputting" mean in this context?

    I don't understand how I would know which phi-type I am.
    Gathering, Transforming, and Reproducing data.

    But now I don't think this hyposesis is right

    If really E4, then :

    ---
    -0-
    or -+-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    According to this I'd be -++
    If however you're really Intimate Eight, fact that I can't verify, basically because I can't feel your physiology.

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    Then how would you define it?

    In terms of seratonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine, I don't know where I'm at. I think I'm good in all of those areas right now, but that sort of thing changes over time, especially for those taking medications which are specifically designed to alter those neurotransmitters.

    So if someone's taking such a medication, is the brain chemistry that works best for them their "phitype"? Or would it be the unhealthy state they were in before they started taking such drugs?

    Seratonin is probably moderate for me. If it varied, it would probably be down rather than up. I'm at my best when it's moderate, I think. I'm not sure I've ever had high seratonin, so I'm not sure what I'd be like.

    Norepinephrine... hard to say. It gets high sometimes and low sometimes, more so when I'm not healthy. I think I'm at my best when it's moderate to high.

    Dopamine can get low when I'm not healthy, but overall it's quite clear that I'm at my best when it's high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    If however you're really Intimate Eight, fact that I can't verify, basically because I can't feel your physiology.
    Then what? (Usually an "If" implies a "Then".)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Then what? (Usually an "If" implies a "Then".)
    Phrases like "These facts are true if other facts are false" or something are gramatically viable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Then how would you define it?

    In terms of seratonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine, I don't know where I'm at. I think I'm good in all of those areas right now, but that sort of thing changes over time, especially for those taking medications which are specifically designed to alter those neurotransmitters.
    They can't change permanently.

    In the worst case, they change for extended periods of time by taking drugs and weaning from them, because neural system adapt to an excess of neurotransmitters, and produce less of them. But neurochemicals go back to normal after a certain amount of time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    So if someone's taking such a medication, is the brain chemistry that works best for them their "phitype"? Or would it be the unhealthy state they were in before they started taking such drugs?
    Probably, some medicines work better for some Phitypes than others.

    WARNING: Avoid to use Model Phi for automedication

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Seratonin is probably moderate for me. If it varied, it would probably be down rather than up. I'm at my best when it's moderate, I think. I'm not sure I've ever had high seratonin, so I'm not sure what I'd be like.
    If you take a sufficient amount of alcohol, your Serotonin level temporarily increases. 3-4 glasses are enough for significant modification.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Norepinephrine... hard to say. It gets high sometimes and low sometimes, more so when I'm not healthy. I think I'm at my best when it's moderate to high.
    If you're Result, it's more likely High. But Moderate is still possible.

    N+ types are caracterised by restless thinking and seeking attention from others
    N0 types are caracterised by mild concentration and seeking approval from others

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Dopamine can get low when I'm not healthy, but overall it's quite clear that I'm at my best when it's high.
    Nobody has a constant High dopamin level. If you're D+, you may have high blood pressure, and you're likely physiologically motivated to do things.

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    *poke* Still waiting on the descrip.
    Johari/Nohari

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis View Post
    I see. Thanks for explaining. You'll probably want to come up with a different term for it; "redneck" tends to mean a backwards, country type (read:hick). You may have already known that, but I was saying it just in case.

    My variant can depend on which test I take; however, there's good chance for my being sx variant. So what is that type's description?
    You mean, -+- ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    You mean, -+- ?
    Yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis View Post
    Yeah.
    -+-

    High-strung artists caracterised by oversensitivity and recklessness, pretty much like a Counterphobic Six.

    They have an high thinking complexity, and have rich imagination. They are usually quite outgoing, like Intimate Fives. They lack motivation, except for things in which they have very strong interest. They are stubborn seducers, and are pretty skilled to create intimacy.

    If ILI, they look like moody Fives. They are hostile scientific observers who are greedy with their knowledge, and intimidate others in order to dissuade them to gather information from them. They superficially look like Fives, except that they aren't Fives.

    Helena Bonham Carter (EIE) and Serge Gainsbourg (ILI) describe -+- pretty well.

    Mostly IEI's, ILI's, and EIE's. Maybe IEE's or LIE's but their existence has to be verified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    -+-

    High-strung artists caracterised by oversensitivity and recklessness, pretty much like a Counterphobic Six.

    They have an high thinking complexity, and have rich imagination. They are usually quite outgoing, like Intimate Fives. They lack motivation, except for things in which they have very strong interest. They are stubborn seducers, and are pretty skilled to create intimacy.

    If ILI, they look like moody Fives. They are hostile scientific observers who are greedy with their knowledge, and intimidate others in order to dissuade them to gather information from them. They superficially look like Fives, except that they aren't Fives.

    Helena Bonham Carter (EIE) and Serge Gainsbourg (ILI) describe -+- pretty well.

    Mostly IEI's, ILI's, and EIE's. Maybe IEE's or LIE's but their existence has to be verified.
    Oversensitive, sometimes. Depends. Reckless, usually only in a way. I "play it safe" within my own thinking; that doesn't mean that the option I take is the smart one. Outgoing - usually only in the Choleric "you'll be useful and so I shall ask you/I'll be useful and so I will tell you" sense. Socializing is not a valid purpose if I don't know someone or don't know them very well; I took enough crap as a kid/preteen that I don't take the initiative anymore, not in that sense. High thinking complexity, rich imagination, check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryene Astraelis View Post
    Oversensitive, sometimes. Depends. Reckless, usually only in a way. I "play it safe" within my own thinking; that doesn't mean that the option I take is the smart one. Outgoing - usually only in the Choleric "you'll be useful and so I shall ask you/I'll be useful and so I will tell you" sense. Socializing is not a valid purpose if I don't know someone or don't know them very well; I took enough crap as a kid/preteen that I don't take the initiative anymore, not in that sense. High thinking complexity, rich imagination, check.
    In the case you're actually IEE-4, I would be happy to find a new Phitype-TIM pair, because I'm currently "collecting" them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    In the case you're actually IEE-4, I would be happy to find a new Phitype-TIM pair, because I'm currently "collecting" them.
    C'est possible. *takes conversation to PM*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salawa View Post
    In that case, the serotonin/noradrenaline/dopamine tags aren't supposed to correspond with actual physiological levels?
    yes they do !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salawa View Post
    What of instances where for some non-type reason one neurotransmitter is (permanently) diminished or enhanced? I doubt that changes the enneatype.
    How could such variables be changed more than semi-permanently ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salawa View Post
    If noradrenaline is increased for a significant period of time, it may permanently diminish serotonin levels (so said my psychiatrist, and some studies I found a few years back that I'll try to find for you).
    Your psychiatrist is a dumb retard. My N-level is high most of the time and I'm almost never moody. I'm just high-strung and feel the need to think of random things. I can't stop thinking.

    I get angry at times, but it's more E3-like than E8-like. I'm never moody.

    This sounds like N+ discrimination. Some people don't like N+ people.

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