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    He is probably the most well known INTj. He is incredibly individualist and creative. Most Russian Socionists type him as INTj as well just to reinforce this.
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    Who? At least two Russian sources - Lytov and the authors of socionics.org - type Eastwood as ISTj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Who? At least two Russian sources - Lytov and the authors of socionics.org - type Eastwood as ISTj.
    Theres quote a few sources that thinks hes an INTj. Theres no way he is ISTj. He is way too individualistic. If you knew anything about Clint you would know that he is probably INTj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    Theres quote a few sources that thinks hes an INTj. Theres no way he is ISTj. He is way too individualistic. If you knew anything about Clint you would know that he is probably INTj.
    If you want to make a case that he's INTj, fine; but unless you can quote at least three different Russian sources that say he's INTj - since I quoted two - your claim of "most" Russian sources was just hot air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    If you want to make a case that he's INTj, fine; but unless you can quote at least three different Russian sources that say he's INTj - since I quoted two - your claim of "most" Russian sources was just hot air.
    Fuck off, I could care less what you think of my statements. I don't care if you believe me or not.
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    Also, he's not only AN INTj, but he's also THE prototypical INTj?

    Carla, Logos, thehotelambush -- you've failed as INTjs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    Fuck off, I could care less what you think of my statements. I don't care if you believe me or not.
    Well, I do care that others might buy your "most Russian socionists" bullshit. That's why I called it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Also, he's not only AN INTj, but he's also THE prototypical INTj?

    Carla, Logos, thehotelambush -- you've failed as INTjs.
    Are you mentally retarded, or did you snort some unknown powdered substance when you were a teen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    Are you mentally retarded, or did you snort some unknown powdered substance when you were a teen?
    They aren't mutually exclusive, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Well, I do care that others might buy your "most Russian socionists" bullshit. That's why I called it.
    Um, most Russians do think he is INTj. I could care less if you think I'm right or wrong. Believe what ya want dickwad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    They aren't mutually exclusive, you know.
    Well, hitta never implied exclusivity--he did ask an OR and not an XOR question, after all.

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    Besides, most Russians have never heard of Clint Eastwood; make that 100% Russians I asked. Both of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    Are you mentally retarded, or did you snort some unknown powdered substance when you were a teen?
    Calm down wee man, eh?

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    But, now seriously --

    So now hitta has provided one clear example of someone famous whom he sees clearly as of a type, that is, Clint Eastwood as INTj.

    ETA: of course, it should be very obvious to everyone that Clint Eastwood and hitta are identicals. (jk)
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    It's difficult to ascertain Hitta's type. He's always coming across so aggressively. It's like he's intentionally trying to wind people up, which if anything doesn't strike me as INTj. If anything it seems like a more ethical type response to be bothered to continually try to create emotive responses like he does. Maybe it's also power related thing because he want's to be the big 'I am' in socionics.

    If anything Eastwood strikes me as what many could see as an ISTp. His apparent emotionial control on and off screen, somewhat reserved, and always paid keen attention to his bodily needs. I mean he's in his 70's now and he still runs about 7 miles most days. He certainly likes to exercise his physical aspect. Of course INTj's could do this, but not to Eastwoods extent. I would imagine if he was INTj he would not exercise as much, and certainly not enjoy it the way Eastwood, or an Si type would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    He is probably the most well known INTj. He is incredibly individualist and creative. Most Russian Socionists type him as INTj as well just to reinforce this.
    Links please. This is an interesting subject to discuss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Who? At least two Russian sources - Lytov and the authors of socionics.org - type Eastwood as ISTj.
    Well, at least one thing is clear. Eastwood is not an ISTj. INTj is actually a more likely type if he is not an ISTp as Ganin suggests. Eastwood seems to have HA, and IP temperament, and his world outlook is inconsistent with ISTj. Besides, he does not V.I. as ISTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    It's difficult to ascertain Hitta's type. He's always coming across so aggressively. It's like he's intentionally trying to wind people up, which if anything doesn't strike me as INTj. If anything it seems like a more ethical type response to be bothered to continually try to create emotive responses like he does. Maybe it's also power related thing because he want's to be the big 'I am' in socionics.

    If anything Eastwood strikes me as what many could see as an ISTp. His apparent emotionial control on and off screen, somewhat reserved, and always paid keen attention to his bodily needs. I mean he's in his 70's now and he still runs about 7 miles most days. He certainly likes to exercise his physical aspect. Of course INTj's could do this, but not to Eastwoods extent. I would imagine if he was INTj he would not exercise as much, and certainly not enjoy it the way Eastwood, or an Si type would.
    Yeah, I think maybe these guys are confusing the real him for his movie personas?
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    I've heard people say he's ISTj and I've heard people say he's ISTp. I've never heard anyone until today claim INTj for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    I've heard people say he's ISTj and I've heard people say he's ISTp. I've never heard anyone until today claim INTj for him.
    *shrugs* me neither

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post

    wow, talks like me.

    And, Fistful of Dollars was a good movie
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    But all hitta does is post more hollow insults (as if a line of angry text has any real intimidation factor.)
    And that's why he can't be an INFp. INFps are not insulting. The behaviour you describe is very uncharacteristic for INFps. Don't people know that?

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    But I still want to know who these Russian Socionists that type Eastwood as an INTj are? I am not necessarily doubting, but such a truth-claim should not be made without being able to provide support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    But I still want to know who these Russian Socionists that type Eastwood as an INTj are? I am not necessarily doubting, but such a truth-claim should not be made without being able to provide support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    I think that is a fair assessment of most INFp type descriptions (although I'm wondering how biased your assessment is by your INFp=INFP mantra.
    None at all. Forget about the MBTT or Keirsey profiles and focus only on the Socionics IEI type descriptions. If you read them, you will see for yourself that my claim is correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95
    However, when we consider quadra values, the dual, and the INFp's mirror, I think an aggressive INFp - or at least one _acting_ aggressive - perhaps more so if they are male in a Western social role, becomes very plausible.
    Quadra values are not behaviorial traits. You cannot deduce anything about an IEI's behaviour from the fact that that type is a member of the Beta quadra. People tend to forget that fact a little too often on this forum. If you want to learn more about the IEI's behaviour and attitudes, you should focus more on the Club of Humanists instead of the Beta quadra. But most of all, you should of course focus on IEI type profiles and the behaviour of real life IEIs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    But I still want to know who these Russian Socionists that type Eastwood as an INTj are? I am not necessarily doubting, but such a truth-claim should not be made without being able to provide support.
    It wouldn't surprise me if the "most Russian socionists" turned out to be two guys in the forum of the Vilnius School of Socionics --
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    It wouldn't surprise me if the "most Russian socionists" turned out to be two guys in the forum of the Vilnius School of Socionics --
    That would be a great turn of events, especially taken into consideration that Vilnius is not technically in Russia.

    Ah, but it was once. Or almost. At least in spirit. Of CCCP. Or something. One has to be knswledgable* about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emeye View Post
    That would be a great turn of events, especially taken into consideration that Vilnius is not technically in Russia.
    That was part of my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emeye View Post
    That would be a great turn of events, especially taken into consideration that Vilnius is not technically in Russia.

    Ah, but it was once. Or almost. At least in spirit. Of CCCP. Or something. One has to be knswledgable* about it.

    * according to Leopard dictionary, this is a word. Tiger disagrees: another reason not to upgrade.
    You must have a weird version of Leopard. Either that or accidentally added it to your dictionary. 'Cause when I put that into my dictionary, it said,

    "No entries found. Did you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    You must have a weird version of Leopard. Either that or accidentally added it to your dictionary. 'Cause when I put that into my dictionary, it said,

    "No entries found. Did you mean?

    knowledgeable
    Knowledgeable"
    Tiger here. And, apparently, that is only in US English dictionary for the spell checker, not the Dictionary.app (you seem to have searched there.) It's a weird bug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    That was part of my point.
    I thought it could be. I was just looking for an opportunity to use the new word, knswledgable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    It's difficult to ascertain Hitta's type. He's always coming across so aggressively. It's like he's intentionally trying to wind people up, which if anything doesn't strike me as INTj. If anything it seems like a more ethical type response to be bothered to continually try to create emotive responses like he does. Maybe it's also power related thing because he want's to be the big 'I am' in socionics.

    If anything Eastwood strikes me as what many could see as an ISTp. His apparent emotionial control on and off screen, somewhat reserved, and always paid keen attention to his bodily needs. I mean he's in his 70's now and he still runs about 7 miles most days. He certainly likes to exercise his physical aspect. Of course INTj's could do this, but not to Eastwoods extent. I would imagine if he was INTj he would not exercise as much, and certainly not enjoy it the way Eastwood, or an Si type would.
    And Hitta is blatantly INTj, and goes about developing these structures in exactly the way that INTjs do (mind you overly so in his case - not all INTjs are as locked into certain structures as he is).


    Great point. Clint Eastwood does seem quite delta (especially in the values he portrays) and ISTp actually seems to fit quite well. He has that sort of repressed emotional look/grumpiness that ISTps have. INTjs aren't as "grumpy" as he is, and he seems Delta>Beta to me. I don't see any Fe with him, in fact more of an aversion to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    And Hitta is blatantly INTj, and goes about developing these structures in exactly the way that INTjs do (mind you overly so in his case - not all INTjs are as locked into certain structures as he is).
    Well, I wouldn't say he was blatantly INTj. A blatant INTj on a forum, to me, would be Logos, or Ganin. In terms of RL INTj's, i've never encountered one such as he. He may still be INTj of course, but it's certainly not blatant, at least not to people you see who have commented as such on this particular thread.

    I haven't seen any structure develop by him on this thread, maybe time will tell, but if recent ones are anything to go by then please pardon me for being pessimistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Well, I wouldn't say he was blatantly INTj. A blatant INTj on a forum, to me, would be Logos, or Ganin. In terms of RL INTj's, i've never encountered one such as he. He may still be INTj of course, but it's certainly not blatant, at least not to people you see who have commented as such on this particular thread.

    I haven't seen any structure develop by him on this thread, maybe time will tell, but if recent ones are anything to go by then please pardon me for being pessimistic.
    Neither Logos or Ganin are INTjs probably. Alpha thinkers are overly aggressive, as are all types with a -Se valued function(especially in the agenda functions). INTjs are extremely rebellious. Its what they do. They are the political conspirators of the world. They can be sarcastic at times, and aren't very good at small talk at all. Once you get them talking though, they are friendly. INTjs hate rules to an infinite degree. They want to be totally free from regulation.
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    On another note, Ganin is probably ESTj, and I'm not sure about Logos, hes possibly an Alpha thinker but I have my doubhts just by his persona, though there are some things that hes said that made me second guess that ideology. I'd like to have a conversation with him.
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    One of the most common traits about Alphas is their need to be individualistic and original. Alphas tend to be very forgiving and very open-minded to all things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    Alpha thinkers are overly aggressive, as are all types with a -Se valued function(especially in the agenda functions). INTjs are extremely rebellious. Its what they do. They are the political conspirators of the world. They can be sarcastic at times, and aren't very good at small talk at all. Once you get them talking though, they are friendly. INTjs hate rules to an infinite degree. They want to be totally free from regulation.
    Do you think this better describes Eastwood than the ISTp typing?

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