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    Default For your VI'ing pleasure -

    Maybe later I'll give some descriptions, but for now tell me what vibes you get from their pretty faces.

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    Fun
    These are just guesses:
    A: ESI?
    B: LIE
    C: ILI
    D: dunno
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    as are these:
    A: not sure
    B: INFj
    C: ENTp
    D: ESFp
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    Guesses and subjective impressions:


    A: strong sensing, Fi? SEE I guess.
    B: Gamma/Delta, intuitive, rational -- LIE I guess
    C: IP. not so much into sensing or Fe -- ILI, I.g.
    D: strong sensing, irrationality -- SEI I guess

    I'd guess/observe the following --

    a) Minde is best integrated in the group, perhaps less so with A
    b) B and C are particularly close
    c) B doesn't really mind D, but they're not really close.

    Question:

    What is it with opening their mouths when you take a picture? It's gross.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Question:

    What is it with opening their mouths when you take a picture? It's gross.
    Don't you know? We Americans like to tout our costly dental work and vaunt our perfect molars. "I'll show you my molars if you show me yours" is a common game among adolescents. Opening our mouths wide to reveal the perfect state of our teeth is a way of asserting status and putting the less-endowed in their proper place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    What is it with opening their mouths when you take a picture? It's gross.
    You're not the first person to make an observation like that, but I guess I don't quite understand it. I always saw it as something exaggerative, expressive, and showing a certain amount of comfort and casual-feeling with whoever else is involved.

    As for type guesses, after I thought it over for a while it looks like I came to the same conclusions as ifmd.
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    Interesting that you're all choosing Fi/Te-types for most of them.

    Would it make any difference if I told you I quite liked them, that they're sweet, mature, kind girls, but that I find it difficult to hang out with them as a group. Their collective... enthusiasm(?) is tiring to keep up with. So instead I hug them and say yes to them when they ask me for things and tell them I love them and smile lots at them. That seems to work just fine in terms of them knowing I like them alright. While I don't find myself on social outings with them (for everyone's mutual comfort, I'm sure) we all like each other just fine.

    I know and get along best with B (she's the one I hug the most). A would come right after her in that regard. I respect C a lot, but don't know her as well. D is the one I have the least connection to.

    As far as the open mouths thing, I think that's exemplary of the type of behavior that drains me rather quickly.
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    From left to right: ESE, IEE, IEI, SEE.
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    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Interesting that you're all choosing Fi/Te-types for most of them.

    Would it make any difference if I told you I quite liked them, that they're sweet, mature, kind girls, but that I find it difficult to hang out with them as a group. Their collective... enthusiasm(?) is tiring to keep up with. So instead I hug them and say yes to them when they ask me for things and tell them I love them and smile lots at them. That seems to work just fine in terms of them knowing I like them alright. While I don't find myself on social outings with them (for everyone's mutual comfort, I'm sure) we all like each other just fine.

    I know and get along best with B (she's the one I hug the most). A would come right after her in that regard. I respect C a lot, but don't know her as well. D is the one I have the least connection to.

    As far as the open mouths thing, I think that's exemplary of the type of behavior that drains me rather quickly.
    Okay, one explanation is that they're all Gammas, that D is SEE (not SEI) and A is ESI (not SEE), what puts you off is the "collective Se" and above all D's Se. I think LIE for B and ILI for C rounds it up nicely.
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    My first impression was that they are all SEEs ... LOL


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    I don't think they're that hot...

    a few seemed very alpha though
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    Guesses:

    1) SEE
    2) SEE
    3) SEE
    4) SEE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Guesses:

    1) SEE
    2) SEE
    3) SEE
    4) SEE



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    A: dunno
    B: ExE
    C: IEI
    D: SEI

    just guesses. IMO
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    A: ESI
    B: LIE
    C: Hardest for me to guess - EIE perhaps?
    D: SEE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Don't you know? We Americans like to tout our costly dental work and vaunt our perfect molars. "I'll show you my molars if you show me yours" is a common game among adolescents. Opening our mouths wide to reveal the perfect state of our teeth is a way of asserting status and putting the less-endowed in their proper place.
    I blame it on modern porno.

    These girls look... uh... flamboyant.

    Like young hookers.
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    They're so....expressive. I would find them difficult to be around. But they're kids so what can you expect.

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    Okay, some minute descriptions from my perspective -

    A is pretty calm and steady, but smiley, too. I've seen her sad, but not really grumpy ever. When working with her, I could always count on her. We never seemed to have any problems communicating and she seemed fine with not talking about frivolous stuff but focussing on the necessary things, though from what I remember she does do frivolous better than I do. She is kind and considerate; not exactly initiative taking, but if she sees a problem she's more than willing to help.

    B often comes across as flighty and a bit excitable to me. I've known her for a long time and seen her really grow and mature. I can count on her, too, to be responsible. She moves and fidgets around in an expressive manner a lot more than A, though, and is more emotionally volatile, though she has calmed down in the last few years. She is also a lot more physical in showing affection, i.e. hugs and cuddling. Out of the four, I get along best with her, though I find it hard to keep up with her. I'm too serious and it holds her back, I think (of course, I feel like that about the rest of the world...). She is good at helping me have fun, though. I often have to push myself, but it's not nearly as impossible as it is with lots of people. Each of us likes and is accepting of the other. Part of it may come from just knowing each other for so long, though.

    Like I said, I don't know C as well as A or B because I haven't worked directly with her for any significant amount of time. But I do respect and like her. She's capable and confident and very responsible. She can do the whole, um, "OMG!" thing, but it's definitely not her priority. Compared to A and B she's much more likely to voice any contradictory opinions she has and be firm in those opinions. She doesn't rabble rouse or have radical ideas, but she doesn't necessarily back down either. It's more of a, "I have my own opinion and I'll just follow it, whether or not people come along with me." (Not sure if it's socionically relevant, but while I think all of them have better senses of style than I do, C's got them topped in terms of actual confidence - she looks good, stylish, with seeming effortlessness.)

    D is the most different from them. She seems a bit more fake, to me. Not that she is fake, just that... She's more focussed on her appearance and on what people think, it seems. On the other hand, she can also be a bit more caustic, a bit more snippy. Like C she has her own opinions on things, but I think they're a little more... self-centered, though not always in a bad way. I get along just fine with her, never had any problems with disagreements or miscommunication. But sometimes it's like I get a blank on her, if that makes sense. The connection doesn't go wrong, just doesn't happen at all, sometimes. Out of the four, I've had the least experience with her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Okay, one explanation is that they're all Gammas, that D is SEE (not SEI) and A is ESI (not SEE), what puts you off is the "collective Se" and above all D's Se. I think LIE for B and ILI for C rounds it up nicely.
    So, a complete quadra, huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garmonbozia View Post
    I blame it on modern porno.

    These girls look... uh... flamboyant.

    Like young hookers.
    Flamboyant is a semi-accurate word, I'd say.

    But they're more like nuns than hookers.

    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    They're so....expressive. I would find them difficult to be around. But they're kids so what can you expect.
    Yes, expressive.

    By the way, as far as I know they're all 18 or older and in college.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    As a group they'd be too much imo. Too many "OMG! Check this out! Hey!" etc. But I've gotten old and tired, hehe. I'd like A and B the best out of those. They seem the calmest, least exuberantly expressive. If I were their age again and one of them - I would probably be the B of the group, and A would be my closest friend of the bunch.
    It's interesting that you find A and B most appealing... I think you might like C, though, too. And, yes, I find them - especially A and B - easier to be comfortable with one-on-one as opposed to in a group.


    Also, I'll add that this only happens to be four who went on a trip together. There's actually more of their particular set who like to hang out together and have gelled especially well.
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    I wonder if others agree on these temperaments given the descriptions:

    A - IJ
    B - EP
    C - EJ
    D - EP or IP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    As a group they'd be too much imo. Too many "OMG! Check this out! Hey!" etc. But I've gotten old and tired, hehe. I'd like A and B the best out of those. They seem the calmest, least exuberantly expressive. If I were their age again and one of them - I would probably be the B of the group, and A would be my closest friend of the bunch.

    lol I've crossed that point too. Younger people are just too loud these days... *shakes cane in air*

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    B's a cutie.

    i really don't know their types. the description of D makes me think Se dominant. focused on appearance, caustic comments about superficial things-- although i've met loads of Se types who aren't like this at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Okay, some minute descriptions from my perspective -

    A is pretty calm and steady, but smiley, too. I've seen her sad, but not really grumpy ever. When working with her, I could always count on her. We never seemed to have any problems communicating and she seemed fine with not talking about frivolous stuff but focussing on the necessary things, though from what I remember she does do frivolous better than I do. She is kind and considerate; not exactly initiative taking, but if she sees a problem she's more than willing to help.
    It's consistent with ESI anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    B often comes across as flighty and a bit excitable to me. I've known her for a long time and seen her really grow and mature. I can count on her, too, to be responsible. She moves and fidgets around in an expressive manner a lot more than A, though, and is more emotionally volatile, though she has calmed down in the last few years. She is also a lot more physical in showing affection, i.e. hugs and cuddling. Out of the four, I get along best with her, though I find it hard to keep up with her. I'm too serious and it holds her back, I think (of course, I feel like that about the rest of the world...). She is good at helping me have fun, though. I often have to push myself, but it's not nearly as impossible as it is with lots of people. Each of us likes and is accepting of the other. Part of it may come from just knowing each other for so long, though.
    Sounds like an extrovert, EJ I guess, but here you make her sound more like ESE or something. I wouldn't discard LIE though.



    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Like I said, I don't know C as well as A or B because I haven't worked directly with her for any significant amount of time. But I do respect and like her. She's capable and confident and very responsible. She can do the whole, um, "OMG!" thing, but it's definitely not her priority. Compared to A and B she's much more likely to voice any contradictory opinions she has and be firm in those opinions. She doesn't rabble rouse or have radical ideas, but she doesn't necessarily back down either. It's more of a, "I have my own opinion and I'll just follow it, whether or not people come along with me." (Not sure if it's socionically relevant, but while I think all of them have better senses of style than I do, C's got them topped in terms of actual confidence - she looks good, stylish, with seeming effortlessness.)
    Hmmm. SLI rather than ILI?


    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    D is the most different from them. She seems a bit more fake, to me. Not that she is fake, just that... She's more focussed on her appearance and on what people think, it seems. On the other hand, she can also be a bit more caustic, a bit more snippy. Like C she has her own opinions on things, but I think they're a little more... self-centered, though not always in a bad way. I get along just fine with her, never had any problems with disagreements or miscommunication. But sometimes it's like I get a blank on her, if that makes sense. The connection doesn't go wrong, just doesn't happen at all, sometimes. Out of the four, I've had the least experience with her.
    Perhaps SEE really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariano Rajoy View Post
    From left to right: ESE, IEE, IEI, SEE.
    funny....those are along the lines of what i was thinking of as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    I wonder if others agree on these temperaments given the descriptions:

    A - IJ
    B - EP
    C - EJ
    D - EP or IP
    answer = "no"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    ISTp for C may be a good call. In the VI, what I may be seeing is sensing + Fi. Something about the smile. The 7th picture for example I thought resembled the user liveandletlive a bit.
    If we're going to compare herself to myself (and assuming i am, in fact, ISTP) then I would disagree....A LOT and for obvious reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    If we're going to compare herself to myself (and assuming i am, in fact, ISTP) then I would disagree....A LOT and for obvious reasons.
    Dunno...I think you and her share likeness.

    Also, has anyone typed twins? I don't think they type as identical which is bad news for VI.
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    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariano Rajoy View Post
    Dunno...I think you and her share likeness.

    Also, has anyone typed twins? I don't think they type as identical which is bad news for VI.
    I don't think i'm that expressive and would never be that expressive on purpose. It looks very forced and shallow (no offense here minde) and entirely too bubbly. She looks very extroverted.

    My boyfriend is an identical twin and him and his brother VI completely differently. So maybe we shouldn't put much into this theory

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    jesus, i just thought they were a bunch of girls having fun acting stupid for the camera. they aren't even acting all that "stupid," except maybe posing with their mouths open. at any rate, the only one i'm willing to really bet money on is A being ISFj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    ISTp for C may be a good call. In the VI, what I may be seeing is sensing + Fi. Something about the smile. The 7th picture for example I thought resembled the user liveandletlive a bit.
    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    If we're going to compare herself to myself (and assuming i am, in fact, ISTP) then I would disagree....A LOT and for obvious reasons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mariano Rajoy View Post
    Dunno...I think you and her share likeness.

    Also, has anyone typed twins? I don't think they type as identical which is bad news for VI.
    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    I don't think i'm that expressive and would never be that expressive on purpose. It looks very forced and shallow (no offense here minde) and entirely too bubbly. She looks very extroverted.

    My boyfriend is an identical twin and him and his brother VI completely differently. So maybe we shouldn't put much into this theory
    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    Do you think what you're seeing in her is Se or Fe, more so?
    Who are you all talking about? Who looks like Jessica? I thought ifmd95 said C looked like liveandletlive. So how did the comparison to Jessica happen?

    *is confused*
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    I think it was just the typing of C as ISTp in which Jessica drew the comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Who are you all talking about? Who looks like Jessica? I thought ifmd95 said C looked like liveandletlive. So how did the comparison to Jessica happen?

    *is confused*
    Re-asking the question because you all like talking about Phaedrus a leeetle too much.


    @ tereg - liveandletlive is an ESFp, not an ISTp, so I'm still confused.
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    what happened was that someone (maybe more than one person) suggested ISTp for person C, and because of this Jessica then compared herself to person C and said she didn't think they were similar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    @ tereg - liveandletlive is an ESFp, not an ISTp, so I'm still confused.
    I understand where the confusion is coming from, but I think what Jessica was saying was if the comparison is going to be made between C as ISTp and herself being ISTp then ...

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    If we're going to compare herself to myself (and assuming i am, in fact, ISTP) then I would disagree....A LOT and for obvious reasons.
    And that assessment is independent of the second statement that the 7th picture resembles liveandletlive.

    Though, I'm not sure if ifmd95 types liveandletlive as ISTp, I think it was just a visual similarity ifmd95 was seeing independent of typing C as a possible ISTp
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    A: ESE perhaps
    B: IP, probably SEI or IEI
    C: SLE
    D: I dunno, I'm stumped... in some pics she looks Ne dominant but in some she doesn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    A: ESE perhaps
    B: IP, probably SEI or IEI
    C: SLE
    D: I dunno, I'm stumped... in some pics she looks Ne dominant but in some she doesn't

    Off topic but your avatar hypnotizes me.


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    @ tereg -- Ah, that does make more sense. Thank you.


    @ Joy -- That's interesting - contrary to most in this thread, you see more Fe-valuing than Fi-valuing in them. I wonder why that is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Off topic but your avatar hypnotizes me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    @ Joy -- That's interesting - contrary to most in this thread, you see more Fe-valuing than Fi-valuing in them. I wonder why that is?
    I don't know. (I wonder if others would have seen more Fe is one of our Alpha or Beta members had posted this topics?) They're very expressive though. What's with the mouth open thing they do? Overall the group has a rather Beta feel to it, in a good way.
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