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    I've just been discussing some of our 'issues' with a fellow ISFp and was wondering what our duals' take on them would be and how (or if) you would deal with them. By issues, I'm talking about our seemingly contradictory need for emotional closeness and emotional freedom. This can manifest itself in 'hot and cold' behaviour - you know like wanting to be really close to someone one minute and then feeling claustrophobic the next. So i was just wondering - would this behaviour freak you out??
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    SEI emotional contradictions + ILE spazziness = <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat View Post
    SEI emotional contradictions + ILE spazziness = <3
    Get your Fe out of here!! I thought I made myself clear - I'm looking for some ILE input!!
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    Just joking, my goatish friend . Your hearts and flowers will always be welcome and appreciated by me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    I've just been discussing some of our 'issues' with a fellow ISFp and was wondering what our duals' take on them would be and how (or if) you would deal with them. By issues, I'm talking about our seemingly contradictory need for emotional closeness and emotional freedom. This can manifest itself in 'hot and cold' behaviour - you know like wanting to be really close to someone one minute and then feeling claustrophobic the next. So i was just wondering - would this behaviour freak you out??
    Sorry, are you saying ISFp's behave like that? I'm an ILE, and I behave like that all the time! However I mask it with a friendly smile, and make an excuse to get my emotional freedom. Best way!

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    unstable Fe might be kind of reinforcing to ILE or SLE in some way. we so want it...we'll try to get it outta ya if you aren't giving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    I've just been discussing some of our 'issues' with a fellow ISFp and was wondering what our duals' take on them would be and how (or if) you would deal with them. By issues, I'm talking about our seemingly contradictory need for emotional closeness and emotional freedom. This can manifest itself in 'hot and cold' behaviour - you know like wanting to be really close to someone one minute and then feeling claustrophobic the next. So i was just wondering - would this behaviour freak you out??
    My thought is (although I'm not ENTp) is that they might not even notice it! I mean, they might be focused on their own stuff and by default provide the space that the SEI needs to recharge or get the distance that they need. I have definitely noticed this hot-cold thing going on with the SEIs I know. I try to use the cold time as a chance to go off and do my own thing. It's actually kinda nice. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    unstable Fe might be kind of reinforcing to ILE or SLE in some way. we so want it...we'll try to get it outta ya if you aren't giving it.
    Why unstable?

    (I love your quote by the way - it's fantastic.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    My thought is (although I'm not ENTp) is that they might not even notice it! I mean, they might be focused on their own stuff and by default provide the space that the SEI needs to recharge or get the distance that they need. I have definitely noticed this hot-cold thing going on with the SEIs I know. I try to use the cold time as a chance to go off and do my own thing. It's actually kinda nice. lol
    That would work well if we had a schedule thing going on - but it's unlikely that we would both be in 'hot' mode or both be in 'cold' mode at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopin View Post
    Why unstable?

    (I love your quote by the way - it's fantastic.)
    thanks, i kinda live that quote or at least try to....

    well by unstable i guess i meant more intermittent. like, if the giving of the Fe is more creative, more intermittent, ILE would find it more reinforcing, since you may not get it all the time. like, it might make you keep trying to get it, knowing that you may or may not get it.

    plus ILE is a space cadet like redbaron says....wandering off into their own thoughts and activities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anamericancer View Post
    "emotional closeness and emotional freedom" ?

    What you mean is... you need people who don't expect anything from you, but can appreciate it when it's there?
    Yeah exactly. That sums it up well ... though sounds rather selfish when I think about it ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    well by unstable i guess i meant more intermittent. like, if the giving of the Fe is more creative, more intermittent, ILE would find it more reinforcing, since you may not get it all the time. like, it might make you keep trying to get it, knowing that you may or may not get it.
    That's good to know. ... So you wouldn't get tired of that after awhile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anamericancer View Post
    haha.
    that's definitely not a problem either.
    you can just be hot or cold or whatever.
    it sounds like you don't have much control over when you feel this way
    but for me I can be either anytime depending on what's going on around me.
    It depends what's going on around me as well. My emotions are affected by my surroundings and other people's moods and things like that ... which sort of means it's not within my control doesn't it?

    But it just occurred to me that maybe you meant that you adapt your mood to suit what's going on around you ... rather than letting it decide your mood. Is that what you meant?
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    But it just occurred to me that maybe you meant that you adapt your mood to suit what's going on around you ... rather than letting it decide your mood.
    Isn't that the same? Your mood is being changed by the group dynamic.

    For example,

    1. sad mood=you adapt your mood and turn quiet and sadly.
    2. sad mood=the mood of the group decides your mood. You are now quiet and sadly.

    I see it is as the same.
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    But it just occurred to me that maybe you meant that you adapt your mood to suit what's going on around you ... rather than letting it decide your mood. Is that what you meant?
    That.
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    That is why I need you to tell me when I am wrong.

    Tell me I'm smart..... *looks endearingly*
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    Quote Originally Posted by anamericancer View Post
    Oh! You're brilliant!
    I appreciate your show of confidence.

    OMG myspace romancer. You have one. How cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamangir View Post
    Isn't that the same? Your mood is being changed by the group dynamic.

    For example,

    1. sad mood=you adapt your mood and turn quiet and sadly.
    2. sad mood=the mood of the group decides your mood. You are now quiet and sadly.

    I see it is as the same.
    Not really ...

    1. everyone's in a sad mood so you choose to be upbeat to try to cheer people up
    2. what you said
    "Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."

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