What is your experience, if you've ever been in situations like this?
What is your experience, if you've ever been in situations like this?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
** this is particularly referring to romantic relationships. But I cannot change the title of the thread now that I've set it, apparently.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
My relationship experience is massive fail as you know Jesse.
I'd imagine the victim would be all "omg I need to be directed to do things"
and the caregiver doesn't really do that kind of thing. I feel caregivers are more chill, go with the flow with relationships. Not to say they care any less about the relationship.
D-SEI 9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
I can only say the obvious. The Caregiver's instinct is to try to make you comfortable, as in creating a cosy environment and situation, which is not really what the Victim wants. The Victim will also tend to expect the Caregiver to behave like an Aggressor, with makes the Caregiver go "are you weird or what?"
If you're seriously interested, I can be more specific over PM.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
Thanks. I seem to have answered some of my questions on my own for the time being, but, I may ask more in a pm later.
Right now, I am currently thinking about how victims don't really have "direct needs" like infantiles do. Infantiles do, even if they seem to avoid letting them out too directly. But they have specific ones, or at least that is how it seems from a caregiver perspective IMO. Victims seem to be more dependent on what the other person wants, and wants to mold towards that.
So the caregiver is trying to meet and satisfy specific needs, but the victim is trying to react to specific desires, or something to that effect.
The victim wants to become the 'loyal knight', but the caregiver wants to satisfy, care for, and support. It is like........ the two introverted functions are conflicting. Si and Ni.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Well let's see. I'm a victim married to a caregiver (ESFj) for going on 14 years now. I actually kind of like the careful quality that pays so much attention to my responses. Maybe it's just that we've adjusted to each other after many years together. He always takes the lead (even if I initiate) and he reads me like a book. I never consciously know what I want until I'm experiencing it so I'll admit, I'm kinda tricky that way.
Last edited by redbaron; 03-21-2010 at 06:22 PM.
IEI-Fe 4w3
i could honestly see both these relations working out pretty well. i think you're right about supervisor-introvert/supervisee-extrovert being not so bad. i don't suppose either INXp type would be super duper imposing. but i think it's probably just bad to be supervised by an extroverted function.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
I thought about this one before, but I think introvert or extrovert supervision can be just as bad as each other. It depends on what the two people are doing, how much pressure the supervisor is looking to put on supervised weak function I think.
Ok guys I have officially found a video on Victim-caregiver here! I'd say the white pony whatsit is victim fo sho!!
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It reminds me so much of my interactions with Nick that's its kinda funny! Although I think I'd be nice and let him keep his kidney
Hello, my name is Bee. Pleased to meet you .