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Last edited by felafel; 08-05-2012 at 03:35 AM.
I imagine that it would be an ExFx type. Someone personable, if they are intelligent then even better, persuasive, and engaging. There are probably better sales people for the wares they are selling and the emphasized types of their respective markets.
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I definitely am not (as an ENTj). I only am a very good salesman when I strongly believe that the product is something very useful, innovative, cheap - overall fantastic. EP people are the best at it.
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Last edited by Suomea; 09-27-2008 at 05:31 PM.
Suomea
The two people in my life who have been the best salespeople are ESFj and ESFp. I don't think it's limited to any given type, but I think the two things that probably help most are strength in Se (but not necessarily an ego function or even a quadra value) and being either and Fi or Fe type.
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Originally Posted by implied
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Last edited by Suomea; 09-27-2008 at 05:30 PM.
Suomea
Te is useful in sales but much more effective in management vs. direct sales. Ti is really good with direct sales. Fe is debatable, more of a PR role than sales, when I used to work at Blockbuster in highschool my Fe often led me to not repeat the "special offer" bullshit that we were supposed to repeat with every customer to "inform" them because when ppl do that to me it pisses me off, and also I'd take ppl's late fees off all the time to avoid arguments cuz my mood > blockbuster bottom line lol
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I read somewhere that S is better for selling tangibles, and N for intangibles. Makes sense to me.
Like selling a couch (all the details about the couch) versus selling a marketing idea and how it will improve the business in five years to implement big-picture concepts.
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Last edited by Suomea; 09-27-2008 at 05:30 PM.
Suomea
From what I have seen, INFPs are pretty good too. ESFJs are good, ISFJs, and ENTJs certainly. I will try to type some famous sales people if you have anyone that interests you. Like top salesperson at some company and so forth.
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I think your reasoning is very good, but the reason why it doesn't really work in practice, in my experience, is that ENTj's low Fe makes it difficult for them to actually "package" the product in a way the customer wants to see, if it's not quite what the product is. Also, unfortunately, too many customers or potential customers expect a sort of emotional engagement that ENTjs are inclined to see as ass-kissing, which makes it difficult for them to convincingly adopt.
Glad you said it, not me. I have observed this. For such people, the best environment is one where they can play "fast and loose", that is, moving on from customer to customer quickly, focusing on establishing contacts and making presentations, but not actually having to engage with the customer intensively in the longer-term. I think Se dominants' low Ni - making them ignore the longer-term consequences of their actions for the sake of short-term expediency - particularly cripples them here.
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Originally Posted by implied
I think the classic image of a salesman is SLE for sure. However I think the BEST potential salesman would have a good bit of Fe and would have to really not sound like he was full of shit. Also, I think a lot of people these days hate feeling pressured into buying something, whereas in the past when people tended to be more uninformed via lack of information technology, if someone seemed insistent about one thing or the other, I would guess that people just assumed he/she was confident about the product.
Given all this, I think Alpha SFs would probably be the best salespeople, leaning towards SEIs. They're persuasive, good at making people feel comfortable, non-threatening (Se 7th>Se 8th helps here), and rarely seem like know-it-alls (Te PoLR beats Te Role for sure).
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We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...