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    I think many of us are talking about two very different socionics....

    Pay special attention to the traits section.

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    Yeah Lol

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    Many of us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    I think many of us are talking about two very different socionics....
    gee, ya think?


    edit: only two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    I thought I was talking about muffins...

    I think blueberry muffins are my dual.
    d00d muffins are teh shit cupcakes are so much better

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    can you really see it in actuality, i mean your theory?
    All around me. It's everywhere. Turn on the TV and you see various overt biases whenever you talk about who likes who and why. And you see people denigrating some aspects even of their strong functions in favor of others. For example, I would always argue that the subjective experience of a person -- the quality of their life -- is more important than focusing on how to encourage people to procreate, did I not take it into appropriate perspective. (and that's something I've learned by experience; it did not come to me naturally, nor does it to anyone, I don't think.)

    Most of this forum, actually, would consider the production of quantity of higher importance than the improvement of quality. (for example the arguments that people who do not consider each and every possibility out there are not LIIs.... I say, give me possibilities that are worth considering.)

    It's tricky becuase we always judge quality against quantity. The question is which you more readily observe as a problem -- quantity or quality --, and which you think you must do something about.

    Let's consider a value judgement that illustrates the conflict clearly: the problem of gas prices. For example, let's say that the new hybrids come in, and gas milage doubles. One would expect that we got back the value we lost when the prices continued to rise. But what if they keep climbing anyway, to $6 a gallon or more? Then all that value is lost. Why morally accept this at all, given that people's disposable income will likely have suffered a significant decline with the rise in prices? (as it already has) A quantity-oriented person would argue that the most important thing in the world is life and its spread. They might be tempted to take this to the extreme and value something only for its capacity to replicate and expand. (this was the thinking that gave us command socialism.) Look at the situation in the Middle East: you see many people living in comparative squalor to the democratic West, but producing many, many children. China's situation was similar until recently. By valuing expansion over intrinsic value, a person is inclined to take advantage of every technological increase due to productivity, and instead of allowing that increase to enrich the experience of existing persons, reduces the supply of existing resources to increase the longevity of the resource's availability. Thus the consumer who would have benefitted from a rise in net productivity is instead saddled with paying more for the same goods, and their present productivity is transformed into certitude of future resource availability.

    Or consider a family situation: if you get a substantial raise, do you buy a new car (or perform some other self-improvement expenditure) with the money, or have a new kid?

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    Tcaudilllg needs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    d00d muffins are teh shit cupcakes are so much better
    Obviously the Merry/Serious dichotomy is no where near as rigid and dividing as the Muffin/Cupcake dichotomy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    sorry, tcaud, this is a little too much for my brain capacity. i think you are really smart btw, and personally very regret even interacting with you for what if you are right. then i'm just slowing socionics.

    THOUGH, I HATE YOUR THREADS ON SOCIONICS AND IMMORALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    lol dee, you amuse me very much

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    There's a lot of interesting aspects to consider here. The problem is how we shall talk about it. But I strongly recommend people to take a closer look at certain things.

    For example, you can learn a lot about the nature of as the leading function in LIIs by reading tcaudilllg's posts and trying to understand the perspective from which he is speaking. And if you start to understand it, I think that you will also realize that hitta's views on the correlations between political views and quadras/types are totally wrong.

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