Which Etype do you feel is the most useless?
E1
E2
E3
E4
E5
E6
E7
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E9
The most useless Enneagram type
Which Etype do you feel is the most useless?
Type 10 is so useless that it doesn't even exist.Originally Posted by glamourama
BTW, I voted type 4.
Why did you vote your own type ?
what a surprise.
You know, Fours are very hostile. It's almost impossible to socialise with an E4 IRL.
Even socialising with Sixes or Eights is easier, because they have more motivated by earthy things, so if you can't sympathise with them, you can have "deals" with them, because at least, they are motivated to have deals. Sixes and Eights may pay attention to you if you fulfil their retarded egocentric interests.
But Fours are narcissistic and self-sufficient (despite usual descriptions), so they aren't really interested by anything but themselves. You can't have deals with them. So if you think of that pretty E4 girl, don't make yourself illusions. Forget her. You don't have any chance anyway.
The easiest to socialise with is : E2. Twos are friendly and empathetic, and can adapt (actively) to nearly everybody. They don't have anything to do with that whole bunch of moody retards.
Basically, 279's adapt to others. 468's expect others to adapt to them.
I should take a machine gun, and then go postal. Except that I'll only kill 468's. Especially Fours, because I hate them so fucking muchI want all Fours to DIE
You don't seem E4 to me. Fours usually don't feed others back by reformulating. Nines do. Fours aren't easily influenced.
Sometimes Sixes may do, in a very bad way. Threes may do, just to appear superficially friendly because they're jealous of Twos.
thanks for the advice
Then vote for E5. I don't know your Etype, but I think you're probably E7 or E8. But I hate Fours more than youYours.
Besides, how do you know you're E4 ?
On the other hand, I don't think you can't be E7 because you tend to moodiness. Sevens aren't moody. Eights are.
Wagele said that E8 women tend to type themselves as E2, E7 or E9 (as effect of their defence mechanism - denial), because such types are more socially desirable. Being socially undesirable is considered weakness even more than lack of physical strength, especially for women.
E3 girls may do so, thinking they are "E2 super-mothers" or such, probably because they're jealous of real E2's.
Besides, Eights may see Ones as their worst nightmare. (Sevens may do too, because they're ADHD retards
whatever enneatype machintruc is.
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
HAHAHA!
I'll probably vote 4, too. That said, I am a 4. As for your accusation about us being hostile, I'm not sure how. I for one am hard to get to know for most people, but I require a lot to connect with people, and most just don't do it for me. Being basically antisocial doesn't help, I admit. I'm only hostile when someone's forcing something on me.You know, Fours are very hostile. It's almost impossible to socialise with an E4 IRL.
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But Fours are narcissistic and self-sufficient (despite usual descriptions), so they aren't really interested by anything but themselves. You can't have deals with them. So if you think of that pretty E4 girl, don't make yourself illusions. Forget her. You don't have any chance anyway.
The easiest to socialise with is : E2. Twos are friendly and empathetic, and can adapt (actively) to nearly everybody. They don't have anything to do with that whole bunch of moody retards.
Basically, 279's adapt to others. 468's expect others to adapt to them.
I should take a machine gun, and then go postal. Except that I'll only kill 468's. Especially Fours, because I hate them so fucking much
Heh... don't let the Eights hear you. I wouldn't want to tick one of those off.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
I think, you should think of being E9. I think E4 may be possible for IEE, but E7 and E9 are more likely. IEE is a pretty versatile type, ranges from moody to enthusiastic, and from goofy to energitic.
I hate Eights, but I hate Fours more than them
Most people, whatever their Etype, find 279's more agreeable than others, because they're "social".
I got 9 once. Still...4 pops up in the top two. *shrugs* I like to avoid others' negative emotions, but I wallow in mine. And really, I'm not horribly social. I'll talk to people, but I make few relationships. Most don't interest me enough.I think, you should think of being E9. I think E4 may be possible for IEE, but E7 and E9 are more likely. IEE is a pretty versatile type, ranges from moody to enthusiastic, and from goofy to energitic.
I hate Eights, but I hate Fours more than them
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
You may even be E2...
I'm not that giving. Not that sacrificing, anyway. However, the 4's regression (or disintegration?) is into a 2's weaknesses. Those were so relevant they hurt. *still sore*
I also expect others to take the initiative in getting to know me, even if I talk to them first. If they don't keep trying, I'll lose interest.
Type 4 - 11.7
Type 9 - 10
Type 7 - 9
Type 6 - 6.3
Type 5 - 6
Type 3 - 5
Wing 4w5 - 14.7
Wing 4w3 - 14.2
Wing 7w6 - 12.2
Wing 9w1 - 12
Wing 5w4 - 11.8
Wing 3w4 - 10.8
Wing 6w7 - 10.8
Wing 9w8 - 10
Wing 6w5 - 9.3
Wing 5w6 - 9.2
Wing 7w8 - 9
Wing 3w2 - 5.8
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Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
I tend to say Enneagram 4 ...but then again, many artists were E4s , so it doesn´t necessarily have to be "useless".
An 8w7 here who doesn't think that 4 is useless because having it in my trifix makes me love anger like a masochist and makes me extremely intense.
Most useless type is 9, even their fixation is sloth.
Mmm, I like 9swe get along pretty unstoppably. The crown of the Enneagram! There's a shit ton of amazing 9s in the musical world, and the only guy who could play a song I wrote better than I could is E9. I don't even wanna play the song anymore myself, it no longer feels like it's whole when I play it. And hey, no drama between me and E9s!
And as for E4s and artists, one of my more frustrating experiences was with a likely 4w5 guy. I got a nice, solid drum beat going, something he could absolutely do anything to. He strummed on his guitar, and these ragged, frayed chords came out of his amp for a few seconds, and then he started dicking around with the knobs on his amp for god knows why. This process repeated itself for hours, and the resulting music was so bad that it sapped the life force right out of the other two people in the vicinity. Despite the roaring noise, they passed out. The music only came together twice. Once, for a few seconds of a Strokes song, which had about as much groove and fluidity as a brick tumbling down the side of an Aztec pyramid. The second time it came together was for a song he wrote, in which his guitar let out its same dry, lifeless, choked death rattle, and then he bellowed the word "PAIN" in a melodramatic, quavering baritone, stretching the word out for fifteen entire seconds. Unbelievably terrible. That was the first and last time I ever dragged my drum kit down into that guy's basement.
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