Which type do you feel is the most useless?
ILE
SEI
ESE
LII
LSE
IEI
EIE
LSI
LIE
ESI
SEE
ILI
LSE
EII
IEE
SLI
No.
I don't know.
the most useless type
Which type do you feel is the most useless?
This is a truly stupid and preposterous question.
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I agree.
So then why did you ask it?
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I pity your souls
I don't know.
+1
i voted LIE.
Not type related. I think most people are past the stereotyping of types. You may of had better results about a year and a half ago when people were still learning about socionics.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
--Theodore Roosevelt
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-- Mark Twain
"Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in."
-- Confucius
I wasn't really looking for serious responses. Just being ornery, I guess.
Perhaps you aren't, but I think it's clear that some people are still learning about Socionics, let alone engaging in stereotyping. I'm pretty sure some stereotypes still exist in my own thinking, too.
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I do very well agree that this topic is silly and biased, but if I had to choose, I would probably say any type within the super-ego (i.e. Alpha and Beta ethical types), especially INFps and ISFps.
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MBTI: INTJ
... that's like 99.999999% of the human race as well?
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
I don't think of IEI's as useless.
Which is why I voted for the LII, and I encourage all who have yet to cast their vote to do the same.
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No, I don't mean they just feel useless. I meant 99.999999% of the human race is useless.really? that many people feel useless? you misunderstand. I'm looking at it from the perspective of a lonely, depressive IEI wallowing in their negativity. andis indeed useless. don't anyone kid themselves on this.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
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On the surface, EII.
To be perfectly honest, I couldn't even wrap myself around this thread until someone could answer me what makes a type 'useful'. That said, I have trouble seeing how any contributions I've made have been particularly helpful. Some people I know have told me that I am, but can you ever really quantify that really? Probably, no.
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Winter will end
Harvest will come
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Pfffft. No way!
LII
Yes, I cannot understand why Logos thinks that LII is more worthless than IEI.
And what could you possibly mean by your sig that
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LII
I don't think any of them are useless. All have their own strengths and weaknesses. Some might usually be more obviously useful than others - in practical terms, that is - but I think all of them are needed to achieve the full richness and potential of society.
LII
Those two votes for EII are completely off the mark.
They have to make brownies and put up with LSEs.
If George Bush (Senior) had a good INFj wife, the world would be a MUCH, much, much better place. Think about it.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
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~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
i think the 1% at the top would feel useless if they didn't have the other 99% to boss around.
Nothing is inherently useful if you do not specify the purpose.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Exactly. Most people are not overly important in the grand scheme of things but most do some form of good and are important to those who love them. Its funny i even see IEE as useless sometimes. But i do see that we do some good things.... that's like 99.999999% of the human race as well?
I have a problem with these type of questions. I cant see how any good can come of them. However i can see how a lot of bad can come from them.
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lolAnd what could you possibly mean by your sig that
i think its a joke.
Logos is an INTj if I recall correctly
Most useless is ILI. I can't even describe the feelings I have for ILI's.
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haha, so many people voted for their own types.
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
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I didn't bother voting, but at least I gained mild amusement from those who failed to recognise the humour or sarcasm in various places. As a result, said people (and obviously therefore their types, since clearly personality = type, no more no less) are now inherently useful. Therefore, the most useless type is the type of anyone who has not yet provided me with the aforementioned mild amusement and will not do in the future.
ILI (Indescribable Lovemaking Inc.)
5w4 so/sx
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haha... I wonder if that was a mistake.
Fuck you.I do very well agree that this topic is silly and biased, but if I had to choose, I would probably say any type with in the super-ego (i.e. Alpha and Beta ethical types), especially INFps and ISFps.
Well anyway, you see Joy, if you want to think of any type as useless you first have to try and tell us what the point or use is, which you don't. You're claiming uselessness in something when the very nature of 'use' has never been found in the first place. Not good.
There isn't any use or point to *anything.* And everything. At all. Life itself (and everything in it, including socionics) *is* pointless/nihilistic/useless, but it's up to each individual to find their own meaning. It can seem very pointy and wonderful, but it's all just an illusion. Illusions aren't bad or hopeless either- they're grand, you can embrace a dream for its own sake. If dreams always have to come a reality- don't they kind of lose their power? This doesn't mean that life is a bad thing though, life is actually very great because of this reason. That there is a point or some sort of 'path' is very bigoted and heterosexist actually. There's no use in anything. Stop looking at things in that way.
It's not about use. It's about gestures. What you think of having 'use' you just like it because of its GESTURE - not 'use.' I realize this is heavy
Yeah, on my own, I tend to think of myself as fairly useless. However, I can accomplish things if I know how to do them.
About the usefulness of IEI's - they're excellent for keeping SLE's entertained and occupied and mollified... thus taking the pressure off of me to do so. So, even if only for that, they are a necessary part of the socion to me.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
I love how LSE is listed twice, and there is no option for SLE.
Oh well. This thread was just a passive aggressive way for me to bitch about someone I know irl anyways. I don't actually think any types are useless.
What do you have against ESE's ?
I suggest you should think of being E6.
I know, that's the second time I say that.
Us, useless? Never.
*shrugs* As long as it's not taken too seriously, what does it matter? Could be a good joke.
Johari/Nohari
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If one's choice differs from one's conflictor, I'd be interested to see what conclusions we might draw from this.
FWIW, I chose IEI.
EDIT: And now I'm beginning to think that in reality, it is the SEI which is the most useless type. Obviously creative Fe does fuck all; it serves nothing. But I think there could well be some value in Ni base. Si base is truly useless.
I think if anything it's more likely that you'd find certain people with your super id functions in their super ego block useless.
I've seriously considered E6, and it's one of the least likely types for me. I'm sorry if you think only a 6 would have a problem with my super authoritarian mother's strictness. As for this thread, I knew I was being unfair and bitching about something I didn't really have a good reason to bitch about, and I knew I would probably feel like an ass later if I said something about this person while drunk, so I avoided giving specifics about the person I found useless.I suggest you should think of being E6.
I know, that's the second time I say that.
I don't think anyone really caught the tone of the thread. But it doesn't matter. And neither does your opinion about my type.
I'm going to go ahead and say SLI. Sorry fellow SLI's. It's the truth though.
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