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  • ILE

    1 1.08%
  • SEI

    5 5.38%
  • ESE

    5 5.38%
  • LII

    3 3.23%
  • LSE

    2 2.15%
  • IEI

    12 12.90%
  • EIE

    2 2.15%
  • LSI

    0 0%
  • LIE

    3 3.23%
  • ESI

    6 6.45%
  • SEE

    1 1.08%
  • ILI

    2 2.15%
  • LSE

    0 0%
  • EII

    6 6.45%
  • IEE

    3 3.23%
  • SLI

    4 4.30%
  • No.

    26 27.96%
  • I don't know.

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    Which type do you feel is the most useless?
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    This is a truly stupid and preposterous question.
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    I agree.
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    So then why did you ask it?
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    I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    This is a truly stupid and preposterous question.
    +1

    i voted LIE.

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    Not type related. I think most people are past the stereotyping of types. You may of had better results about a year and a half ago when people were still learning about socionics.
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    I wasn't really looking for serious responses. Just being ornery, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    Not type related. I think most people are past the stereotyping of types. You may of had better results about a year and a half ago when people were still learning about socionics.
    Perhaps you aren't, but I think it's clear that some people are still learning about Socionics, let alone engaging in stereotyping. I'm pretty sure some stereotypes still exist in my own thinking, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    This is a truly stupid and preposterous question.
    + 33π/8

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    I do very well agree that this topic is silly and biased, but if I had to choose, I would probably say any type with in the super-ego (i.e. Alpha and Beta ethical types), especially INFps and ISFps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    it's true I do feel useless, really. I'm being honest when I say that if I died now, it would be of no detriment to society. sure, those who love me would be sad, but in the grand scheme of things, my death will mean absolutely nothing.
    ... that's like 99.999999% of the human race as well?
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    I don't think of IEI's as useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I don't think of IEI's as useless.
    Which is why I voted for the LII, and I encourage all who have yet to cast their vote to do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    really? that many people feel useless? you misunderstand. I'm looking at it from the perspective of a lonely, depressive IEI wallowing in their negativity. and is indeed useless. don't anyone kid themselves on this.
    No, I don't mean they just feel useless. I meant 99.999999% of the human race is useless.
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    On the surface, EII.

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    To be perfectly honest, I couldn't even wrap myself around this thread until someone could answer me what makes a type 'useful'. That said, I have trouble seeing how any contributions I've made have been particularly helpful. Some people I know have told me that I am, but can you ever really quantify that really? Probably, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Which is why I voted for the LII, and I encourage all who have yet to cast their vote to do the same.
    Pfffft. No way!
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    Yes, I cannot understand why Logos thinks that LII is more worthless than IEI.

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    And what could you possibly mean by your sig that is the root of all problems and stupidity? I regard it as a nice dose of sanity in a world gone mad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Yes, I cannot understand why Logos thinks that LII is more worthless than IEI.
    I don't think any of them are useless. All have their own strengths and weaknesses. Some might usually be more obviously useful than others - in practical terms, that is - but I think all of them are needed to achieve the full richness and potential of society.
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    Those two votes for EII are completely off the mark.

    They have to make brownies and put up with LSEs.


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    i think the 1% at the top would feel useless if they didn't have the other 99% to boss around.

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    Nothing is inherently useful if you do not specify the purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby View Post
    ... that's like 99.999999% of the human race as well?
    Exactly. Most people are not overly important in the grand scheme of things but most do some form of good and are important to those who love them. Its funny i even see IEE as useless sometimes. But i do see that we do some good things.

    I have a problem with these type of questions. I cant see how any good can come of them. However i can see how a lot of bad can come from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akeaneau View Post
    And what could you possibly mean by your sig that is the root of all problems and stupidity? I regard it as a nice dose of sanity in a world gone mad.
    lol

    i think its a joke.

    Logos is an INTj if I recall correctly

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    Most useless is ILI. I can't even describe the feelings I have for ILI's.
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    haha, so many people voted for their own types. I voted ESE and didn't even consider voting for EIE.
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    I didn't bother voting, but at least I gained mild amusement from those who failed to recognise the humour or sarcasm in various places. As a result, said people (and obviously therefore their types, since clearly personality = type, no more no less) are now inherently useful. Therefore, the most useless type is the type of anyone who has not yet provided me with the aforementioned mild amusement and will not do in the future.
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    I love how LSE is listed twice, and there is no option for SLE.
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    haha... I wonder if that was a mistake.

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    I do very well agree that this topic is silly and biased, but if I had to choose, I would probably say any type with in the super-ego (i.e. Alpha and Beta ethical types), especially INFps and ISFps.
    Fuck you.

    Well anyway, you see Joy, if you want to think of any type as useless you first have to try and tell us what the point or use is, which you don't. You're claiming uselessness in something when the very nature of 'use' has never been found in the first place. Not good.

    There isn't any use or point to *anything.* And everything. At all. Life itself (and everything in it, including socionics) *is* pointless/nihilistic/useless, but it's up to each individual to find their own meaning. It can seem very pointy and wonderful, but it's all just an illusion. Illusions aren't bad or hopeless either- they're grand, you can embrace a dream for its own sake. If dreams always have to come a reality- don't they kind of lose their power? This doesn't mean that life is a bad thing though, life is actually very great because of this reason. That there is a point or some sort of 'path' is very bigoted and heterosexist actually. There's no use in anything. Stop looking at things in that way.

    It's not about use. It's about gestures. What you think of having 'use' you just like it because of its GESTURE - not 'use.' I realize this is heavy thinking, but so what. It's true. If you ever contemplated about life while on drugs or a substance that gets in touch with your natural creativity and spiritual side of the brain, you'll know what I'm talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    To be perfectly honest, I couldn't even wrap myself around this thread until someone could answer me what makes a type 'useful'. That said, I have trouble seeing how any contributions I've made have been particularly helpful. Some people I know have told me that I am, but can you ever really quantify that really? Probably, no.
    Yeah, on my own, I tend to think of myself as fairly useless. However, I can accomplish things if I know how to do them.


    About the usefulness of IEI's - they're excellent for keeping SLE's entertained and occupied and mollified... thus taking the pressure off of me to do so. So, even if only for that, they are a necessary part of the socion to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzy View Post
    I love how LSE is listed twice, and there is no option for SLE.


    Oh well. This thread was just a passive aggressive way for me to bitch about someone I know irl anyways. I don't actually think any types are useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poll
    ESE's are totally useless retards.
    What do you have against ESE's ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Oh well. This thread was just a passive aggressive way for me to bitch about someone I know irl anyways. I don't actually think any types are useless.
    I suggest you should think of being E6.

    I know, that's the second time I say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger View Post
    Its funny i even see IEE as useless sometimes. But i do see that we do some good things.

    I have a problem with these type of questions. I cant see how any good can come of them. However i can see how a lot of bad can come from them.
    Us, useless? Never.

    *shrugs* As long as it's not taken too seriously, what does it matter? Could be a good joke.
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    If one's choice differs from one's conflictor, I'd be interested to see what conclusions we might draw from this.

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    FWIW, I chose IEI.

    EDIT: And now I'm beginning to think that in reality, it is the SEI which is the most useless type. Obviously creative Fe does fuck all; it serves nothing. But I think there could well be some value in Ni base. Si base is truly useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    If one's choice differs from one's conflictor, I'd be interested to see what conclusions we might draw from this.
    I think if anything it's more likely that you'd find certain people with your super id functions in their super ego block useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    I suggest you should think of being E6.

    I know, that's the second time I say that.
    I've seriously considered E6, and it's one of the least likely types for me. I'm sorry if you think only a 6 would have a problem with my super authoritarian mother's strictness. As for this thread, I knew I was being unfair and bitching about something I didn't really have a good reason to bitch about, and I knew I would probably feel like an ass later if I said something about this person while drunk, so I avoided giving specifics about the person I found useless.

    I don't think anyone really caught the tone of the thread. But it doesn't matter. And neither does your opinion about my type.
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