Se & Te PoLR
Se & Te PoLR
I hardly even notice Se, Ni, and Te PoLRs (I'm sure the Se is type-related). Fi, Fe, and Ne are probably the most painfully obvious. Although I'm getting better at recognizing it, I think Si PoLR in particular is kind of subtle; it mainly comes out in how a person moves and speaks, not in anything they say or do specifically.
I guess I don't really "notice" Ti PoLRs because I'm constantly seeing Ti problems anyway.
I think Ni PoLR is fairly easy for me to spot. Also Se. For Te I need more interaction with the person, and Fi PoLR is probably the one I need the most time to spot.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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Fe PoLR I think is easiest for me... probably has something to do with control over my creative function. Because i can turn it "on" and "off" it's easier to judge it's effect on another person in both situations, so I find it's generally easy for me to detect weak Fe. I'm also pretty confident at detecting Ni PoLR, like when someone's doing something in an incredibly inefficient way and I fancy I'm being helpful in my attempts to direct them but find out soon enough that I'm just irritating them to hell
In my humble opinion, the supervisor is the absolute best teacher of a thing they're good at because the supervisee doesn't have any real defenses the incoming information, and the creative fosters that delivery. (Interpersonal tension aside, as that is less predictable between the two, and can happen to any two people, it will skew these results if it occurs).
The PoLRs I spot with ease are Se, Ne, Fi and mostly Si. Se through inability to level up, Ne through lack of originality and routine overdose, Fi through awkwardness in profound ways of relating, Si by completely destroying my beloved comfort zone ;~; The latter is the most obvious to me because what I need and value in others is denied.
Situation from my curation class that made me think I'm SP/SX but in fact, it was Si DS: my group members announced that we would have to work all night to get our statistics work finished.
Me, liking neither stats nor willing to sacrificing my holy sleep, rebelled against them all whiny, "Is that even healthy!!", also pressuring them to start asap to get it done, at least, while they even wanted to postpone it. I did end up working all night not even losing an ounce of energy - eating away all of their food lmao, that's how I punish people - but left earlier. I didn't want to let them down nor did I dare to risk getting a bad grade. The major problem was just inconvenience. They kept on working until 4,5 am or something. Blasting music and drinking alcohol while working, while I was like That work won't be high quality, and you'll be ruined In retrospect, I'm pretty sure they were ENxj types
Agree with OP: Se and Te polr
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It's easy for me to spot Se PoLR, but it's hard for me to identify any other PoLR. I feel like other IEs or maybe instinctual variants cover for other PoLRs more easily than for Se. E.g., having a social-first or social-second instinctual stacking seems to help my ILI friends be very good at promoting the group mood (Fe-like behavior), and being self-preservation-first seems to ensure that an LIE I know takes care of his physical well-being and makes time to relax and enjoy things (Si-like). My LSE friend is excellent at extracting the essence from situations (Te [or maybe ignored Ti] and Ne somehow producing Ni-like behavior?).
What on earth could produce Se-like behavior in an Se PoLR? Maybe enneagram 7/8? But those are very rare enneagram types for Se PoLRs (EII/LII)...
I just don't feel like anyone has as poor a relationship with their PoLR as Se PoLRs do (though I am probably biased by my own experience/being able to relate to it the most).
I can spot them all, but not always and not in everybody. Probably, the one that stands out the most for me is Fi PoRL. They have a meanness (and sometimes outright evil, as is the case sometimes with SLE) that is characteristic.
OP, polrs are harder to spot than ego functions and mobilizing, even demonstrative
If you just mean Supervisee willingly following advice of the Supervisor without understanding any of it, well I don't recommend that either. Will usually not work unless Supervisor has all relevant information about the issue/situation to be solved but that's usually not the case, far from it. Also you can't have your Supervisor always holding your hand. And blind trust is no good anyway.
I realize that most people are going to disagree with my statements about this relationship.
I realize this is terribly situational and requires that there aren't conflicts. I also am not claiming that they will like one another, simply that the supervisee can benefit from learning from the supervisor of they're spending time learning from them. (Recall that I'm speaking about a supervisor that's competent in the area).
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I find Fe PoLR very easy to spot and very endearing. After that comes Se PoLR then Ne PoLR. Fi PoLR usually only shows itself once the friendship ball starts rolling. Si PoLR is impossible.
Ti PoLR through conversation probably applies Fi PoLR. It can be basically this: OMG people teasing with me useless math or OMFG get rid of your feelings and detach. Granted that I have seen ENFp getting interested in advanced level math book (after being terrible at it in school)which can be other way around with ESFps.
It is easy to tease out Ne PoLR.
Of course seeing Se POLR in a spot.
Te PoLR but I don't really care about it. Can be humorous or something...
Depends on the interaction environment.
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From me one can not demand and expect:
- practicality of ideas;
- punctuality and diligence;
- consistency and completeness;
- constant order in the home and in the workplace;
- quality of routine work;
- soft skills to adapt to the interlocutor.
Anal Expulsive personality (no hyphens for you)
So called false dual logic that actually reveals some remote potentials:
"sure crocodiles can fly, but very, very close to the ground"
Just think about it.
Fe PoLR: After working with an SLI in my java class, I've come to realize there's no way in hell that my Fe is in the same placement as his.. I think I'm taken too literally and everything I say is meant to be more open to interpretation (which to me is Beta NF syndrome but I don't think I'm one of those either) >_>
Both Ji PoLRs are pretty easy to spot too, but I don't really bother correcting them or feeling annoyed by it...especially ILE/IEEs because I'm receptive to both their creatives when applied to their leading function anyways
Si polr and Se HA both kinda violate my very being, impossible not to notice their physical presence. Always wanting to do something... always trying something... I just wanna smoke weed in bed and listen to music with a cat or at least a pillow that looks like a cat
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Fi PoLR for me is extremely obvious, and kind of overbearing. When ILEs, for example, are trying to "make nice" and socialize, it comes off to me as being too straightfoward about it almost. Idk. It's hard to describe. It's like they try to adhere to some set of social rules they've made up and it just seems like they aren't actually paying attention to the other person. Like, I should smile and shake hands with this person, etc. Rather than being natural, it always feels like they are "doing" something. Maybe it's them just trying too hard?
Fe and Si, though the Vulnerable function is not always easy to distinguish from other functions like the Suggestive.
Well it definitely does not match my experiences.I realize that most people are going to disagree with my statements about this relationship.
Do you experience this with LSIs?
I understood you were claiming that.I realize this is terribly situational and requires that there aren't conflicts. I also am not claiming that they will like one another, simply that the supervisee can benefit from learning from the supervisor of they're spending time learning from them. (Recall that I'm speaking about a supervisor that's competent in the area).
I don't really have anything to add. You can either try and fail or succeed to experience this yourself or ignore me. I don't care
Fi polr is pretty easy. People who don't have a clue how others feel about them can be accidentally annoying.
Ti, Si and Ni polr are probably the tougher ones. Fi polrs tend to rub me the wrong way a lot of times so they are pretty easy to spot, especially SLEs. Ne polr is easy to spot online while Se, Fe and Te polr is easy IRL.
Compassion is an emotional incentive to help someone in worse circumstances than your own. It can be channeled empathically or it can stay fully internalized, but the motivation is always to help the other person, never to harm him. It's possible to show empathy without compassion -- and, in rare cases, to show compassion without empathizing, like in cases where you never actually meet the person you're helping face to face.
Depends on what you are doing, if you are reading a really well written book by an IEI you are probably not going to notice the Te polr so much (unless you are in a certain bad mood and being very critical) because the great Ni+Fe+Fi+Ne is going to make up for it and "stand out."
It's the times where you can't "stand out and shine" with your valued functions where the polr will be obvious in an awkward way... like, maybe the IEI has to give some Te report of business instead of a romantic adventure story. Then the Te polr will come out... or even when you ask them to operate the cash register.
Te polr is often obvious because American society is very Te valuing. And in situations where it's *both* Ti and Te valuing, the Te will still feel more potent because of extroverted function vs. introverted function. Though you put somebody in their right element- the good will drain the bad so much you won't know the bad so obviously.
Se polr is also obvious because of how we put assholes/aggression/willpower/assertiveness/Type A personality up on a pedastal.
Si polr is not so obvious because we are a society that is "Get a job you faggot and stop talking about your feelings online."
Lesson of the day: Do what you are good at, improve your strengths- and don't worry so much about your weaknesses lol.
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