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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    I guess INFp or INTp.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    ISFj. Failing that, maybe ESFp or INTp.

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    'Encyclopedia Dramatica'?

    ...always a good sign.

    *cough*

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    @ Expat and HotelAmbush

    What is making you lean towards those particular types?

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    Well, she's obviously Se quadra - note the overdone clothes and makeup in the first picture. She also has kind of a deadened leer that I associate with Gamma SFs.

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    Perhaps NiFe or FeNi.
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    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

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    I'm thinking of ILI.

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    Lol, it's Sasha Grey. She's a pornstar.
    Dunno what type she is.
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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Winterpark, you shouldn't spend the WHOLE weekend watching her films

    Anyways I type every gothic looking chick as INFp or at least Beta NF for some reason. She does seem a bit "sharp" in the eye contact department though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    i think Si can just as easily produce an aesthetic affect like hers, just by way of different motivation.
    Very very unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    we apparently have very different views of who's Si base then.

    some of my experiences - ISTp's can be clean-cut, down-to-business people who after basic comforts don't see the need to garner any attention. but then they've got that POLR which can prone them to a "don't give a damn" attitude towards society's aesthetics.
    Since when is Fe about aesthetics? Not to mention Te!

    ISFp's - although more socially-conscious, they are less practically-conscious so the net effect can be similar. also sometimes to "express themselves" - not to anyone in particular, but to uphold their own mood to themselves, for themselves. i've noticed alpha SF mood can be very dependent on their aesthetic surroundings. and being Ne-seeking/irrationals, those can be unconventional tastes in ISFp.
    Unconventional, yes, but nothing like the seductive-temptress look.

    on the other side of the socion - you've got Bill Gates and Brad Pitt being the same type. really, how type-related can this stuff therefore be?
    I don't know what type Brad Pitt is, so I can't respond to this. However, sensing is obviously related to aesthetics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    some Te considerations: time consumption, cost, perhaps workplace mobility and safety (e.g. a girl not wearing goofy shoes if her job has a lot of walking.)
    Of course Te may be related to clothing, but not aesthetics per se.

    Fe - everything that was said about expression?? if Fe may use colorful phrases and facial expressions to convery its present emotional state, why not clothes too?
    What emotional state does clothing convey?

    *shrug* all i think that matters is that the Si type isn't exclusively trying to be seductive. (dressing to hook others' wants would be Se.) but maybe someone just finds the seductive look pleasing to their own eye (Si) or affirming of emotional state somehow (bloced with Fe.)
    Fair point. But this girl is obviously trying to be seductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    well as a disclaimer, i dress conservatively myself! so i'm really stretching my imagination here.
    Exactly, you are arguing based on what functional preferences theoretically are supposed to be, and not on your personal observations of them. The information elements themselves are simple to understand - but the functions are not.

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    I didn't expect this kind of debate here, lol. (I agree with 99% ifmd95 said, by the way.)
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    i have IRL observed people i have typed Si base - based on other criteria - dressing seductively.
    You're missing the point.

    Winterpark, do you know the girl personally? What are your thoughts on her type?

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    I also think she's gorgeous ... like her aura/style, just as glamourama does.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Winterpark, do you know the girl personally?
    No, but I know someone who looks just like her.

    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    What are your thoughts on her type?
    I think she's INXp, probably INTp.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    The model / actress / porn star.



    She's similar to this actress who I've seen typed as INTj:



    I guess by default, the other possibility is INFp for her (or both of them), since both types are intuitive, introverted and Fe/Ti valuing.
    More introverted INFps tend to have underplayed or subdued emotional reactions and facial expressions, but perhaps not to the same level of coldness as those two (?). You be the judge.

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    NF

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    I originally thought Beta irrational for her, but after that video I'd say INFp specifically, based on comparisons to people I know in person. Does appear introverted.
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    Nicole Kidman is usually typed INTj. There are some similarities, especially around the eyes:


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    Nicole is ESFp

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    Tyra Banks is a selfish idealist. She ironically blames women but I don't see her interviewing straight porn stars? Gay for pay ones and easy women she can portray as 'victims.' Why isn't anybody talking to the straight male performers here?

    It just idk reminds me of like in school if somebody was being picked on the person who was being made fun of would 'get counseling' but the offender wouldn't, and it just sent the message that people were actually afraid to stand up to the offender, you know? Like all of society secretly agreed with the person who spat on the woman's face. That's why misogny and homophobia reigns supreme.

    Now whether or not people are abused in porn is a debatable subject. But say they are, for the sake of the subject. If you really want to help women, you'd get into the minds of the men that do that to them.

    You have to be fair. If you interview the throat fucked, you should interview the throat fucker. It's just all too easy to say 'that girl must have low self-esteem so we can exploit that cause it feels good, cause I'm not like that. yeaaah.'

    There's a bisexual male photographer that does that, and I think he's really honest and fair. He has a really cool friendship with Ashley Blue, they have good friend chemistry together and stuff. (and she's really likeable as a person I think)

    There's a thin line between being a model and a porn actress, I mean both are really disgustingly exploitative and such. At least porn is more honest about it. Tyra's superiority complex is really annoying. Me and other gay guys were talking about how annoying she can be.

    (If she actually did like interview mr. pete or brandon iron or all the guys who throat fucked her, tell me. But I doubt she did, didn't she? Tyra seems like a hypocritical half-woman that likes to see women suffer honestly. She claims that she likes to empower women? wtf....how is that empowering?)

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    Tyra is like Oprah...ISFp

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    Sasha grey seems exceedingly cold, ILI/intp.

    She's a terrible actress in every porno I've seen, worse than the others, Jenna Jameson is close to winning an oscar in comparison. Do some other porn stars, hah, type them, Grey is famous because she's not an idiot and also is an entrepreneur(ILI thinking again) and starred in some shitty real, NON_PORN movie.
    BTW theres several threads about her already. The basic gist was Ni/se valuing possibly sle/estp(gilly? and some others), and ILI (expat?).

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    I seriously considered that she might be Fe PoLR, and it's still a possibility. But Ti dominants can seem very cold as well, when they're just being stoic. They're still sensitive to emotional pressures from the environments.

    I'm a Ti creative and I seem monotone, cold and calculating much of the time.

    The only thing that supports an Ni/Se typing is that the porn industry is Ni/Se in general, which is a criterion I'd like to avoid in typing, rather focusing on her personal characteristics. She does have relatively laid back energy levels, which is consistent with both IP and IJ temperaments.
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    IXI. I don't like her pr0n, either.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    I like her porn, but too much throat fucking

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    Yes she sucks cock at acting. Where is the deepthroat emoticon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    too much throat fucking
    Impossible!
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    throat fucking gets boring

    ok whomever said on this forum they found
    a hot iei-sle scene you are now required to link it.

    Anyone tried typing by porn scenes, amateur
    or otherwise? Sexual attitudes etc.

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    I don't like Sasha Grey, she plays this whole "I'm an intelligent porn star who active in social issues" card.... and she cold and unfeeling and constrained, especially for someone who does so much fucking.

    The social issues thing gets me the most. Even if she does care about some undescript social issue, she still does nothing about it except whine to the masses using her status out of some self-important ego trip.

    And its really not that shes a porn star, I don't like people that whine a lot about stuff that they can't or won't do anything about. Its probably my biggest pet peeve in the sphere of dealing with the human emotion of being upset and all the things that surrond it. If you got a problem... solve it, try to solve it, marshal together people to solve it (or plea for help), or deal with it; but don't whine about like you have no dignity.

    She uses her media exposure as a porn star to psuedo-intellectually discuss issues. I find that troubling because other people are out their working their ass off for real change and solving real problems, but because she can take a cock in her ass, she gets an open ear from an audience?

    I would disagree with NF.... an Intuitor seems fitting though as would an SLE of some sort.

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    Dead on

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    dang she's stupid. check out the tyra banks interview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    dang she's stupid. check out the tyra banks interview.
    Tyra Banks is arrogant elitist prick that blatantly attacks people for their lifestyles, as if she is better than everyone else. Kind of hard to answer questions when the question asker is saying shit like "you should be ashamed of yourself" or "you need to correct your lifestyle" without even opening their ear to the rationale of the person they are interviewing. I'd love to go on her show and call her fat. As soon as she gets up and starts screaming, I'd punch her in her damn head.
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    sasha grey reminds me of a female marilyn manson. maybe ENFj
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    Tyra Banks is arrogant elitist prick that blatantly attacks people for their lifestyles, as if she is better than everyone else. Kind of hard to answer questions when the question asker is saying shit like "you should be ashamed of yourself" or "you need to correct your lifestyle" without even opening their ear to the rationale of the person they are interviewing. I'd love to go on her show and call her fat. As soon as she gets up and starts screaming, I'd punch her in her damn head.
    call her fat? pot to kettle? anyhow tyra banks isn't fat, and sasha gray has had her head banged in too many times by dudes. i have to say that tyra banks asked her some questions that most people wouldn't, and for that i respect her.

    what's more interesting to consider is that tyra banks is often thought to be ISTj. if she's actually ISTj, how does this factor into intraquadra relationships?


    she was getting paid like 100,000/year. that's shockingly low, considering the very high risks of the occupation.

    http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/comme...m_Preview.html

    i found this documentary linked to the tyra banks interview. this is wild as hell. a lot of interesting issues brought up not only regarding women but racism/political leanings of porn producers/etc. i have to say i am not necessarily anti-porn/erotica, but this is making me wonder.
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    No, Tyra Banks gets no respect for asking her questions and then editing out the answers.
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