Hey Beta - explain this please
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...90&postcount=9
And then my post afterwards
Why do you guys do stuff like that?
What reaction are you hoping for?
And, what reaction would disappoint you most - to not react to it at all, or to really get pissed off at you?
It is like a subconscious drive for drama, yes?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
^yes
No, another ENFj I know acts that way.
I was curious about why ENFjs do that, and also how it relates to their dual
I was also curious about why ISTjs also enjoy the whole "you don't need to know this" thing.
To be fair, I have not experienced an ESTp or INFp doing such things. I have not worked with them as much however, nor are they in my family, unlike the rational betas
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Originally Posted by UDP
Your skills of induction are praiseworthy as ever, Jesse.
yeah, i must admit, i thought this was sort of the hallmark of Ti+Se. explaining things in as few words as possible.
my boss is LSI, and he doesn't act in that "you don't need to know this" way, even though is IS higher in rank than me or whatever. if I ask him something, he tells me, and explains it just like this.
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sloan - rcuei
i think he's trying to figure out weaknesses so he can be a dick. so enfj and istj are different than you...so f off and go be yourself. INFJ and ENFJ are supposed to do best when they just leave each other alone ... so why not follow suit.
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Yeah, I tried to tell him once already. He's gonna ask again in a couple of months...possibility: it sounds like maybe the EIEs/LSIs that have been mentioned don't want to talk to (for whatever reason) the EII and you, UDP?? maybe the EII and you annoy them.
I'm guessing he notices the "doesn't want to talk with me" aspect of dislike more in LSIs because we don't talk much to begin with, and when we do it's short Ti, as opposed to long exhaustive Te.
LSI
This is EIE, yeah?
what's EIE? short & concise? not really haha.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
Te isn't exhaustive. How can you properly explain how something that is complicated works, if your just gonna use one or two short Ti statements?
Yes, I meant that no matter how long and complicated the thing I'm explaining is, I'm always gonna use 2 statements, of 5 words each. :-P
I was trying to say that I will use less words than the average type, definitely less than a Te leading. It was a comparison.
LSI
no from that post I read the ENFj was not seeking 'drama' for the sake of drama but more likely pulling off the arrogant victim routine (further motivations unknown) by challenging someone in the hopes that they'll react and prove they're stronger so said ENFj can temporarily find contentment in the knowledge that if shit hits the fan he's not going to have to take sole responsibility and clean it up himself
INFp-Ni
What UDP is talking about is an EIE thing yeah?
(I forgot about this thread)
No, I've seen both EIE and LSI do it, mostly LSIs. I've mentioned it before, it just bothers me when people withhold information in the work place. I don't care if we're friends and you don't want to talk. I get my prying the closer I am, but so be it - that's me.
I think what bothers them is that I don't tolerate organizational structure very much, I just keep pushing to know more about what is going on, but they expect me to "know my role"
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
That's a bad feeling. I guess you wouldn't hold up something as regimental and structured as the army. Or, indeed, any corporate institution or firm. In short, you are fucked for a job, Jesse. You have to learn that rarely will you find a job where you are allowed and encouraged to know everything you want to know.
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