Mitt Romney

[corymaxwell]

I am pretty sure Mitt Romney is an ENFp. Oh, and hi, I am Cory, liveandletlive got me to come here, and i am an ENTj. Nice chatting.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Of course, I don't care- because he's not for the things I am for at all.

[munenori2]

I doubt ENFp highly. Perhaps ESTj is a possibility of sorts, but that's the only delta type that even strikes me as reasonable.

[duality is cringe]

I don't have any strong feelings about Mitt Romney one way or the other, but did think this was hilarious.

[munenori2]

lollin

[liveandletlive]

I am pretty sure Mitt Romney is an ENFp. Oh, and hi, I am Cory, liveandletlive got me to come here, and i am an ENTj. Nice chatting.

i swear this forum shud cut me a check haha jk... y do u think he's enfp? i see him as an ESXj.

[eunice]

Seems like ESTj politicians always get the bad rep.....

[UDP]

His mannerisms and the way he gets awkward seem classic E3
.... And obviously not an ethical type.
Rigid. Smug. Condescending.

Gotta go with (douchebag) LSE-Te E3

Yes, of course, I see the resemblance

He makes the most awkward factual remarks, which seems like a very uneasy Te type. He looks like an LSE who is trying desperately to say the right things all the time, and is trying to mask his 'feelings' with what he's supposed to say - and comes off as super robotic. He only speaks well when he's in a very comfortable environment, (which I think is very LSE), and he seems very bad at reading Fe cues.

[Gilly]

So you are E3? That actually makes sense. More than you being LSE, at least.

[Drommel]

[Gilly]

lulz

its true

[Beautiful sky]

LSE

[UDP]

So you are E3? That actually makes sense. More than you being LSE, at least.

No. Not sure how you can see yourself, Mitt Romney, and me as all the same Etype.

I'd say Romney is more 3w2 though. He has no real principles other than trying to look successful, and trying really hard to say what he thinks other people want to hear. This works in well with LSE-Te, I think, because he is obviously entirely socially inept, and the more he's put on the spotlight and shown how "light -hearted" and "easy going" and "relatable" he is, the more ridiculous he comes off. The GOP still wants him to be something like Reagan or Sarah Palin, who has that "natural charm" -- as in, is someone who is an ethical type. But that is obviously not Romney's strength, at all. They tried to do this with McCain last time, too, and it was a bit of a bust - IDK his type, but I remember ESI, and I see him more or less as someone who is Te valuing.

He seems much more inclined to 'look' for Fi cues from people to see how to relate, because he is unable to actually produce any relational development his own, and his ways of dealing with Fe are sporadic at best, if not generally clueless.

I suppose the curious thing is that if he is an LSE, he's a very, very terrible one in terms of doing any scouting on world affairs - going to the UK and saying the things he did seems really uninformed - really, just a matter of being informed... but then again, he did seem to know the material well enough, just not how to present it in a way that related well to others. He obviously seems a bit sheltered, so combine that with his strong desire to say whatever the GOP script-writers want him to say, he's put in a situation where he has to rely on a skill he doesn't have -- smoothly relating ideas to an audience, especially one that isn't pre-established as welcoming to him.

I see him a lot less comfortable in relating information to people, rather than actually processing or handling bits of data.

..... and yeah, the image above works, too.

[UDP]

hi. i haven't really 'followed' him. my guesses would be intp-te or estj. not sure which...

He'd be the least intuitive and most image conscious ILI I've ever seen.

[munenori2]

Sometimes I think he has to be an alien or something. No one's that awkward in real life, right?

[Gilly]

maybe, maybe not.

i had this in mind, however:



just watching this makes me feel uncomfortable...could still be estj tho.

I just...don't want to believe that was real. That seems like something a kid would write into the script of how not to be an awkward parent.

[Gilly]

i just hate everything right now, after seeing that

[717495]

I type George W Bush LSE too, they remind me a lot of one another

[Saberstorm]

Sometimes I think he has to be an alien or something. No one's that awkward in real life, right?

I first heard that (Mitt is an alien) from the columnist Johna Goldberg in the National Review magazine.

I think Bush 43 is a IEE, and Mittens is LSE.

[Drommel]

I type George W Bush LSE too, they remind me a lot of one another

Mitt Romney is a lot like George H.W. Bush, not Dubya. They got into politics for the same reason and have all the same political problems. It's eerie, actually.

[munenori2]

Yeah dubya wasn't too bright, but he came off as more genuine and sincere. His papa I can't say I recollect too much about since I was a little kid, but he did seem pretty stiff like mitt.

[717495]

Mitt Romney is a lot like George H.W. Bush, not Dubya. They got into politics for the same reason and have all the same political problems. It's eerie, actually.

I was speaking of their sociotype and personality, though not their political perspectives. Bush Sr. seemed pretty introverted unlike the animated extroverts, definitely of a slower calmer, and introspective mentality. I type all three Delta ST.

Yeah dubya wasn't too bright, but he came off as more genuine and sincere.

Heh I wonder if that's because he is a lot more genuine and sincere, and partly due to that didn't worry about coming off as bright.

[UDP]

i just hate everything right now, after seeing that

I know, bro. And the apathy felt is the sting of the new weapon of choice against 'democracy' and civic engagement. Sigh.

It should be in Famous People

Captain Awesome

It should be in "People who's types are in indeterminate form because the person doesn't exist anymore"

[UDP]

Yeah dubya wasn't too bright, but he came off as more genuine and sincere. His papa I can't say I recollect too much about since I was a little kid, but he did seem pretty stiff like mitt.

I think GWB actually feels bad about things nowadays (guess), and tried to connect with people, even though he was being used as a tool by Cheney and the others from Project for A New American Century. And his father's hopes, too. GWB didn't want to disappoint people he cared about, but wanted to be good to other people, in his way.

Mitt Romney, like other "pathetic versions" of E3s, is running around trying to prove something because he needs to be famous because of whatever childhood trauma / some else's shadow / desperate fame whore. Please like me, please like me, please like me. Ugh. Not that all E3s are that way, of course, but unhealthy 3w2s? yeah....


Bush's 'lack of articulate speech' at least seems to inspire he spoke from the heart; Romney's lack of conviction about anything other than appearing successful makes him seem ... as he seems.
Apparently he only took 3 questions, all from American reporters, on his recent trip abroad. I hope he faces more questions from unpleasant people soon. Or has a chat with billy mays.

[Drommel]

I was speaking of their sociotype and personality, though not their political perspectives. Bush Sr. seemed pretty introverted unlike the animated extroverts, definitely of a slower calmer, and introspective mentality. I type all three Delta ST.

As was I. By "political problems", I meant their problems as a politician. They have the same inability to connect, same lack of theme or message, their motivation is the same, etc. Both are probable LSE's and both almost certainly have the same type.

[717495]

I would say the Bushes are of a more comfortable upbringing than Romney, I imagine an overall more socially honest and freer lifestyle, partly due to their positive relationships in upbringing. That is to say I see a lot of communicative similarity between he and his father. His father just seems pretty introverted (internal, introspective, calm, lack of spark and animation, nothing like Romney). It's easier to tell watching all three of them back-to-back. I wonder what Romney's parents types were/are because this can have a negative impact on an ability to relate and socialize with people in a natural way.

One aspect of similarity I see is a lot of the same lack of thoughtfulness and sympathy in Bush Jr's thought process as Romney has, they come off sort of robotic, exacting, and assertive in tone and inclination, something I'm quite used to with LSEs. Not to mention that energetic directness. I would have to say both LSE just based on being able to spot the type well.

[Drommel]

I think you're confusing George H.W. Bush's WASP upbringing for introversion.

[Pookie]

Who let the dogs out? Woof, Woof, Woof. (Yes, the black vote is now mine)

[DirectorAbbie]

Seems like ESTj politicians always get the bad rep.....

Not the first one.

[InvisibleJim]

I dont think he is LSE.

[Creepy-male]

I'd say Romney is more 3w2 though. He has no real principles other than trying to look successful, and trying really hard to say what he thinks other people want to hear. This works in well with LSE-Te, I think, because he is obviously entirely socially inept, and the more he's put on the spotlight and shown how "light -hearted" and "easy going" and "relatable" he is, the more ridiculous he comes off. The GOP still wants him to be something like Reagan or Sarah Palin, who has that "natural charm" -- as in, is someone who is an ethical type. But that is obviously not Romney's strength, at all. They tried to do this with McCain last time, too, and it was a bit of a bust - IDK his type, but I remember ESI, and I see him more or less as someone who is Te valuing.

I completely agree on what you said on how the more light-hearted, easy-going, and relatable they try to make him the more ridiculous he seems. This is completely spot on, I wish politics in general were more real but many people buy into stuff like this.

The video the person posted up... I find that funny, he's essentially trying to campaign to the "poor african americans". It's ridiculous because is there even any real chance Romney can sway votes from this demographic -- probably not. He has trouble relating to them in a real way, and doesn't have enough charisma or charm to bullshit his way through it. He's basically a mormon businessman -- which means he supports the upper classes which are mostly white and his religion is the whitest version of christianity. It seems like a huge waste of time for his campaign, Romney as the person isn't going to change over night. I'm not complaining though -- its not like I want him to win.

What really disgusts me about Romney though is the Mormonism, I don't know why. It's not that I don't think people shouldn't have the right to be Mormons, of course they should, and its there own personal liberty to believe what they want. However, I find it to be the most disgusting thing to me. Mormon temples are adorned in ivory white material are are shaped like castles. It's incredibly cheesy to me, its rehashing actual medieval culture and life into some kind of disney land spectacle. The entire religion was founded by a charlatan prophet early on in America. The book of mormon is written in an older dialect of the english language to appear more authoratative. It's just awfully cheesy, and its very difficult for me to see how anyone can actually like the religion, let alone believe it. I happen to like the architecture of castles and medieval culture as well, but I find actually studying the history behind this time era and the development of humanity to be more fascinating and real than the cheesiness of the Mormon religion. Everything about the religion smells of selling people some disneylandesque cheap rehasing of medieval culture to dumb Americans in exchange of the veneration and exhaltation of some charlatan prophet or "church elder".

[mikemex]

George Bush was a dumb SEE.
Mitt Romney... no idea. Although I wouldn't be surprised if he was LSE.

[Beautiful sky]

I dont think he is LSE.

ohh yes he is.

[UDP]

ohh yes he is.

He'syour kind of LSE, isn't he.

[Beautiful sky]

He'syour kind of LSE, isn't he.

Better than you are. (Sorry for the judgement.)

[mikemex]

^ i had always thought alpha for bush. well, either way, glad we agree on dumb.

Alpha? I don't really see Bush similar in any way to Hilary Clinton (ILE) Al Gore (LII), Bill Clinton (ESE) or Nikita Khrushchev (SEI).

I do see him very similar to Kennedy (SEE), just dumber.

[UDP]

Better than you are. (Sorry for the judgement.)

You don't have go fake apologize, Maritsa. Sincerity isn't one of your strong suits, as you mentioned before.

 

But I guess that's why Romney would work so well with you

[Beautiful sky]

I didn't say he would work for me. I did say he was better for me than you.

I think that's damn sincere.

[InvisibleJim]

ohh yes he is.

LSE arent so awkward in their professional environment.

[Gilly]

Alpha? I don't really see Bush similar in any way to Hilary Clinton (ILE) Al Gore (LII), Bill Clinton (ESE) or Nikita Khrushchev (SEI).

I do see him very similar to Kennedy (SEE), just dumber.

John F Kennedy? Textbook EIE-Fe.