I'm going to try to say this as politely as I can, because I know it's an inherent criticism but please- help me explain the thought processes. Do not try to reflect the problem back on me. I want you to explain *your* thought processes about this, and I in turn will try to defend mine. Let's try not to attack one another but instead come to some sort of mutual understanding.
Who knows, we might say 'fuck it' and just try to beat each other in a bloody pulp. To be honest, that's fun too. But let's try to be civil for starters.
Here's the deal: With Deltas, I often get morally criticized if I make a blowjob joke in public. ((If I'm really comfortable I'll do this. Sometimes just for the hell of it)) And with you guys it's like there's no talking about it with you. It's just like 'this is wrong' just because- and it frustrates me to no end. Sometimes I feel forced to 'tattle' on my beta friends to move ahead in a heavy-delta atmosphere. I hate doing this....but you guys leave me no choice. If my supervisors are Deltas (supervisors as in 'bosses' not socionics supervisors of course) I have to do this.
So yeah deltas, nothing is ever wrong just because you say it is! It really is annoying. It only usually ends up being offensive to deltas anyway. Maybe I am indeed stereotyping/projecting. Maybe only depressed/sheltered deltas think this way. But it really is annoying.
With Betas, I can just be myself a bit more and make sexual jokes. However, I know not everybody wants to hear them- and me too, if somebody *always* talked about sex I would think they were crude too, so I'm working on it. But the extreme sensitivity you guys have is kind of bothersome to me. How can I improve my relationships with Deltas? Because I don't like feeling stifled or feeling like I deserve to be locked up for saying something a little kinky.
I get the impression that Deltas act like they're the only ones that was ever hurt or made fun of in life...or something. How can we both work together to come to a better understanding?
When a Beta does this with you, we're not trying to like um bother you or make you grossed out, we're just trying to connect with you and kind of humanize you. And I know what it's like to be sexually offended....but to me it's much more offensive when people act all...I dunno. Uppity about sex?
To be fair I've had very good delta friends that have warned me not to sleep with somebody that wasn't good for me, and to avoid people that were total assholes. For that I am very thankful. I don't want to 'just lust' either. But for me, it's like I need to experience it myself even if the situation is bad... and as for seducing Deltas, I don't even try even when it's clear to me they like me- because I am afraid of hurting them or something. I'm afraid what we'd do would never ever match your ideals on what sex *should be* so I just kind of give up.
So yeah. Balls in your court, deltas.