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    I'm curious, what do you think?

















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    you've written about some of these people before, yes?

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    That is true.
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    A couple of ISTps, an ESTp and possibly an ESTj?

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    Not quite so, I included some control cases to make it worthwhile. And no, I'm not talking about the cat or Donald Sutherland!
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    cat is clearly ENFj

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    Ok then, allow me to sweeten the deal. Those who've read previous posts of mine will have some clue as to the types to choose from (or at least might be able to deduce additional information). However, I've been given cause to reevaluate some of the types I'd been thinking of. So to make this more interesting, I'm going to give a few brief descriptions of everyone involved here, in random order (even omitting the factor of sex), to see if you can a) identify or narrow down to a set of types each one and b) match the description to a particular pictured individual.

    Hopefully this will be both more fruitful in terms of measuring my own typings of them all as well as more interesting on your part to try to solve the puzzle. Unfortunately I've got class to go to, but I should have them up later today (say, in about five hours, less if there is actually a computer on campus available).
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    They all look Delta to me, except for the first girl & guy maybe. The guy seems ESFp, but my first thought was also ENFp as well. The last two guys seem ENFp.


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    So you have before you five individuals: persons V,W,X,Y,Z. Here is a brief overview (I tried to capture both aspects of their behavior as well as their motivations).

    Person V
    - tends to be reserved in public but opens up amongst close friends
    - not expressive unless around other expressive people, when V can then let loose, especially under the influence
    - When V doesn't have a clear goal/task, V prefers to relax. When one is had, V works hard though it frequently seems effortless
    - strongly desires and appreciates pleasant sensations
    - often will mention a feeling of stress or depression that is only rarely visibly expressed. This is typically brought on by a sense of loss of direction on V's part and is usually 'treated' with resort to slightly hedonistic means.
    - Pissing V off when drunk invariably leads to violence, though it is a controlled hostility

    Person W
    - enthusiastic and optimistic to a fault; emotionally expressive in a positive fashion
    - very accepting of others unless they prove themselves unworthy
    - likes pleasant, lively forms of communication
    - deeply religious sensibilities yet also conceives of it as a personal mode of life (i.e. doesn't look down on others for choosing a different path)
    - extremely family oriented

    Person X
    - forceful personality yet not overbearing, believes in their choices without being swayed much by naysayers, ambitious yet not as talented in achieving the desired ends, something of a dreamer
    - highly stylistic regarding their own appearance, an aesthetic soul
    - tends to shout random things (though in a funny way), more so when drunk
    - Of all those pictured (though true of W also), generally sets/runs the social atmosphere
    - has a prolific set of acquaintances
    - kind and benevolent soul, doesn't think bad of others unless they routinely offend/don't care about other people whom X is concerned with (this might also be said of W, but to a slightly smaller extent)
    - Very go with the flow, a leaf on the wind view of life

    Person Y
    - Very chill individual, not a fan of huge social gatherings. At the same time, will attend them for the sake of obligations to a friend.
    - Loyal and possessing a rather uncommon integrity
    - Genuinely concerned with close relationships, though at times uncertain of how to act to further/preserve them. Also willing to ask for advice in this sphere.
    - Tends to pose for pictures when Y is otherwise normally more subdued in expressiveness
    - When Y's sense of right/wrong is upset, usually reacts very strongly and in an abrasive manner or with expressions of betrayal. These are typically the strongest emotive responses that Y shows.
    - Extremely loving of and protective of animals
    - Reveals an air of competitiveness under certain circumstances, typically in team events and then in a positive, supportive manner

    Person Z
    - highly focused on objectives, what needs to be done, how best to do it
    - generally easy-going but responds to aggression in kind
    - Tends to be good at meeting a variety of people, but rather intolerant of anyone who doesn't pull their weight
    - Can be very compassionate, yet under certain circumstances (the above being one example) can be very unforgiving
    - Enjoys social interaction in a raucous environment so long as it eventually winds down to one-on-one contact
    - Might take things too seriously at times
    - A desire, as well as the exceptional ability required, to make real change in the world happen so long as this change is viewed as being positive, efficient, and for the greatest number of people possible
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    Tell person Y she is pretty hot.

    Sounds like , too. ISFj from your description, perhaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    The girl in the red shirt is probably the only one of that group I'd like IRL. The rest aren't terribly unlikable or anything. . . just seem like they might annoy me. Sorry
    None taken. Well, considering I'm in one of the pics (terrible pose though, I go overboard in situations like that) maybe some disconcertion is merited.

    Given your type and the type I think Woman 2 is, that is an interesting assessment though I could always be wrong in my judgement! If you knew them, I think you might change your tune. However, I am hopelessly biased.
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    Well are you going to tell us what you think?
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    I was wanting more responses before I disturbed everyone's objectivity, but I'll give it another half an hour before I revel in my own typing inability.
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    Ok, screw it. I'll tell you what I think and then maybe that'll give you all something to debate.

    Person V = Guy 2 (ISTp)
    Person W = Girl 2 (ESFj)
    Person X = Guy 1 (ESFp, though I think ESFj might be slightly more probable)
    Person Y = Girl 1 (ESTj)
    Person Z = Guy 3 (ESTj)
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Tell person Y she is pretty hot.

    Sounds like , too. ISFj from your description, perhaps.
    I will wisely not say too much here, but, yes, she is one of the best friends I could ask for, particularly since we haven't known each other that long. Trustworthy to a fault!
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Ok, screw it. I'll tell you what I think and then maybe that'll give you all something to debate.

    Person V = Guy 2 (ISTp)
    Person W = Girl 2 (ESFj)
    Person X = Guy 1 (ESFp, though I think ESFj might be slightly more probable)
    Person Y = Girl 1 (ESTj)
    Person Z = Guy 3 (ESTj)
    Person X and Person Y sound pretty cool from their descriptions (they all do, but them especially) - though interestingly my reactions were different to the pictures.

    ESFp or ESFj for person X? The description sounds more EP than EJ to me - I wonder if others agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana View Post
    could be. After all, exuberant posing may not show their normal selves very well
    Shh! That's far too reasonable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    I will wisely not say too much here, but, yes, she is one of the best friends I could ask for, particularly since we haven't known each other that long. Trustworthy to a fault!
    I wonder though if UDP guessed which one Person Y is correctly

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    Person X and Person Y sound pretty cool from their descriptions (they all do, but them especially) - though interestingly my reactions were different to the pictures.

    ESFp or ESFj for person X? The description sounds more EP than EJ to me - I wonder if others agree
    Very possible. It's only recently that I've began to reevaluate it. Ep sounds better than Ej, yet ego-wise he strikes me as probably FeSi (which is simply a matter of ego functions vs id). That might not be socionically correct, it's just that I've always been impressed by him (assuming that I would be more so with an illusionary as opposed to my supervisor). Perhaps he's just an ESFp that's very kind? lol, I pretty much thought him an Se dominant just because he's screams all the time. Hilarious good guy though!
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    Mr. Hyde has gone back to sleep now.
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    ((I relate to that description a lot))

    Hmmm.......... LSE for Y, eh?

    Person Y
    - Very chill individual, not a fan of huge social gatherings. At the same time, will attend them for the sake of obligations to a friend.
    - Loyal and possessing a rather uncommon integrity
    - Genuinely concerned with close relationships, though at times uncertain of how to act to further/preserve them. Also willing to ask for advice in this sphere.
    (((That seems to be, or at least from your perspective, indicative of Te>Fi, even Te prefering Fi dual seeking...)))
    - Tends to pose for pictures when Y is otherwise normally more subdued in expressiveness
    - When Y's sense of right/wrong is upset, usually reacts very strongly and in an abrasive manner or with expressions of betrayal. These are typically the strongest emotive responses that Y shows.
    - Extremely loving of and protective of animals
    - Reveals an air of competitiveness under certain circumstances, typically in team events and then in a positive, supportive manner
    (((I thought that would be Se creative, but in Id also works)))
    Now that I read that again, I can see LSE.



    Why I didn't think LSE off the bat is, a general tendency for people to catagorize them as being busy bodies or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Again my bias blinds me. I figured it obvious!

    They're both good-looking, so I wouldn't blame him for that-sort-of-imposing-good-intertype-relations kind of thing. You might say that's the downfall of all objectivity (my own included)!
    That post is unclear.
    What bias are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    ((I relate to that description a lot))

    Hmmm.......... LSE for Y, eh?
    Come on, tell us whether you thought Person Y was Girl 1 or Girl 2!

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    Hm? I don't understand.

    I thought person Y was the second to the bottom. The one above Z, Z being the bottom.
    I didn't incorporate VI into my "tying" that much. I didn't really put a lot of effort into anything in this thread , it is 3am where I am now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Hm? I don't understand.

    I thought person Y was the second to the bottom. The one above Z, Z being the bottom.
    I didn't incorporate VI into my "tying" that much. I didn't really put a lot of effort into anything in this thread , it is 3am where I am now.
    if I've got it right, by "person Y" you are referring to the picture of "person W" - I think when munenori posted the descriptions, he didn't post them in the same order as the pictures, because the point was to match the descriptions to the pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    They all look Delta to me, except for the first girl & guy maybe. The guy seems ESFp, but my first thought was also ENFp as well. The last two guys seem ENFp.
    Why do they look Delta to you? I can never really tell which quadra people are in.

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    /sigh @ some of the things I say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    Why do they look Delta to you? I can never really tell which quadra people are in.
    Irrespective of the reasoning, it was pretty accurate (to my typings at least), though with a couple of caveats. It could be wholly accurate for all I know. I would be interested to know what Scarlett thought, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    if I've got it right, by "person Y" you are referring to the picture of "person W" - I think when munenori posted the descriptions, he didn't post them in the same order as the pictures, because the point was to match the descriptions to the pictures?
    ? Hmm, I didn't get that is what was going on. Oh well.


    Here is what I did -I looked at this photo...

    (Non of that girl 1 guy 3 stuff makes any sense to me what so ever - I don't know if he is referring to something in the past he talked about or not.)

    ...And didn't really know what to think. Seems like some sort of sensor. Looks like an ISFj I know so that's sort of why.
    Then I associated that photo with the Y description, and figured I would guess ISFj.
    I reread the description after mun said ESTj, and it seems to make sense.

    I'm tired, so that's about all I put into anything at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Hm? I don't understand.

    I thought person Y was the second to the bottom. The one above Z, Z being the bottom.
    I didn't incorporate VI into my "tying" that much. I didn't really put a lot of effort into anything in this thread , it is 3am where I am now.
    You've just been ESFj'ed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Um, if I were to answer this I'd probably give myself away!

    I've probably given myself away, doh!
    There is supposed to be some sort of a joke or covert operation going on here?
    I don't understand - what are you trying to be deceptive about?

    : /
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    I apologize if it was unclear, I listed the variables in a-not-direct sequence then coordinated them according the the gender/# of introduction given the pics. That probably sounds unclear, don't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Um, if I were to answer this I'd probably give myself away!

    I've probably given myself away, doh!
    I think from your past descriptions it's been fairly clear

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    Hey, I was drunk and posted about my feelings! Yeeeeeah!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    I think from your past descriptions it's been fairly clear
    Loose lips sink ships, ya know what I'm sayin?

    Seagram's makes me retarded, sorry. I say too much of what I shouldn't say in riddles or plainly for that matter.

    Sorry if that sounds like a word puzzle. Tru dat.
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    Past descriptions too? Whatever

    I apologize if it was unclear, I listed the variables in a-not-direct sequence then coordinated them according the the gender/# of introduction given the pics. That probably sounds unclear, don't it?
    Yeah it does sound unclear


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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Past descriptions too? Whatever
    don't worry, I'm just a freak who somehow remembers a lot of things people say... I hope you've gone to bed, sounds like you need some sleep!

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    The pictures and who they are consist of the order of persons:
    Pic 1/2 introduction of guy 1
    Pic 2/3 girl 1
    pic 3 guy 2
    etc, etc on down the line.

    The variables were mixed up to see if anyone could match their descriptions according to their appearance.
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