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    wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    porn = possesing/having concrete estimation of the object (ego)
    not porn = not possesing the object (superid)

    The ego is pornographic because it has the capacity to fully posess an object (ie. to understand the full implications and limitations of an object, to make a given object mundane). Any information relating to the superid block has the capacity to produce the sensation of higher imagery, to be something untenable or unreachable.

    Discuss.
    would this be sort of like the difference between an intact raw egg (ego) for which the shell and its contents are one, and scrambled eggs (superid) for which the shell is supposedly crashed, beaten, sent away, and the contents poured out and cooked?

    i am wondering where you mean consciousness to play into your question. if the ego is pornographic, how can it also be conscious?
    whenever the dog and i see each other we both stop where we are. we regard each other with a mixture of sadness and suspicion and then we feign indifference.

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    I want it. Please provide a video clip.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    @reyn

    In a way, all of reality has the capacity to be pornographic. Reading a book is pornographic, raising a family is pornographic, cooking is especially pornographic. Anything that is mundane or limitted, is easy to access or complete, is pornographic. Hence, anything for which we are fully conscious of the mechanism at play, and of our own role in it.
    i bet this might translate into something similar to memes

    The superid is valued but weak. Information in this block has the feeling of being sublime or unreachable. We can never fully concretize the information presented into the same concretizations that the ego is capable of. In the ego we can rotate the object, flip it, skew it, alter it and given it any shape or form that we desire. We are as gods over the most fundamental properties of the object. But the object as it exists in the superid is an amorphous, ambiguous thing, who's sole attachment to the individual is his yearning for it. The ego is a being for. The superid is a yearning for.
    ah, another instance of hegelian dialectics at work.

    Incidently, see Freud's theory of the phallus and James Joyce's ideas on pornography
    ok.

    sidenote : your mentioning james joyce makes me think of the term parallax, which actually (luckily) might apply here to your context for pornography. parallax, meaning the apparent displacement of an object due to a change in observational position.
    whenever the dog and i see each other we both stop where we are. we regard each other with a mixture of sadness and suspicion and then we feign indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    pm me with credit card information and I'll make all your fantasies come true.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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