View Poll Results: What type is liveandletlive?

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    I think it's fairly obvious that we've got ourselves an SEE here, but I want a general consensus anyway.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    omg she's julius caesar you idiot

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    Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 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    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    i feel special.

    btw, dioklecian (if u see this and want to contribute) told me he doesnt think im a SEE without explaining himself. my HA is crying. feed it now bitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    i feel special.

    btw, dioklecian (if u see this and want to contribute) told me he doesnt think im a SEE without explaining himself. my HA is crying. feed it now bitch.
    You're a SEE, because I say you're one. And anyone who doesn't think so is just an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    You're a SEE, because I say you're one. And anyone who doesn't think so is just an idiot.
    haha i think it's cool how ur first sentence was very but ur second sentence was very not in the fact that u were subtlely implying diolekcian is an idiot.
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    I'm gonna say INFp or ENFj; for some reason I get that feeling.
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    jessica129:scrotums r hot

    :" hitting cap makes me envision cervix smashing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    I'm gonna say INFp or ENFj; for some reason I get that feeling.
    woooohoooo!

    ummmmm ezra u may wanna add sum more poll options...
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    Well, you seem very openminded about things, openminded in a way I wouldn't think an ESFp could be.
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    jessica129:scrotums r hot

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    Well, you seem very openminded about things, openminded in a way I wouldn't think an ESFp could be.
    In what way are u referring to
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    No, LALL, I need add no more options. There is "Other (please specify)" for people like hitta.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    i feel special.

    btw, dioklecian (if u see this and want to contribute) told me he doesnt think im a SEE without explaining himself. my HA is crying. feed it now bitch.
    dioklecian is a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    dioklecian is a moron.
    +1
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    this stupid UDP avatar craze is making it impossible to tell who is who.

    enough with this already.

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    Enough with you already.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I personally think liveandletlive is SEE, even if for no other reason, there's something about her communication style when I've spoken with her that reminds me so much of some female SEEs I know IRL. I can't put it into words exactly, but there's just.. something to it. I even used this something to confirm a casual friend IRL as SEE just by hearing her speak once (I was thinking some sort of Se-ego and possibly Gamma type but wasn't entirely sure until that time). I really wish I could put these things into words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    this stupid UDP avatar craze is making it impossible to tell who is who.

    enough with this already.
    hey, i personalized mine.
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    Irrational, extrovert and SF club clear for everyone to see. To verify the typing the next thing I'd be looking for is wether the "thinking style" (process/result with negative/positive) fits with what is expected. From what I have seen, she regularly begins threads with questions as to how a certain socionics-concept works, or how a real-life event should be interpreted in socionics. This is a focus on an obstacle, a problem... Process types do this, from what I know, so that's in line with ESFp. As a last verifyer you could check the "command style" (aristocrat/democrat with taciturn/narrator) by judging wether she is a person who adapts to others' rules (like a guest; democracy) or a person who tries to make others' adapt to their rules (like a host; aristocracy). I think things point to the democrat side in her case, so no complications there. ESFp sounds good.

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    Iee

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    that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    You're a SEE, because I say you're one. And anyone who doesn't think so is just an idiot.
    Therefore, I'm an idiot. :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLauritson View Post
    I personally think liveandletlive is SEE, even if for no other reason, there's something about her communication style when I've spoken with her that reminds me so much of some female SEEs I know IRL. I can't put it into words exactly, but there's just.. something to it. I even used this something to confirm a casual friend IRL as SEE just by hearing her speak once (I was thinking some sort of Se-ego and possibly Gamma type but wasn't entirely sure until that time). I really wish I could put these things into words.
    i no what u mean. there's a lot of things relating to socionics especially typing where it's just a feeling that u can't put into words.
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    Yeah.. I don't really like to type purely on a vibe because it seems a bit of a cop-out if someone's type were being debated, but since it's all I really have to go on, I do get an SEE vibe from you. But then.. I only recall feeling that vibe in PM conversations. I'll have to think more on this.
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    What were your previous ideas?
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    You see likeness between liveandletlive and Herzy?
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    You see likeness between liveandletlive and Herzy?
    No. liveandletlive is less hostile than Herzy.

    SEE's and SLE's don't use their dominant function in the same context.

    It's like saying LII's and LSI's are alike. Myersian adherents say so.

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    I understand where machintruc's coming from. Her attacks, be they playful (more often the case) or serious, are far more cutting and/or forceful than liveandletlive's (in fact, I don't think I've ever seen liveandletlive attack or criticise anyone),
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    I initially thought that Beta was more likely than Gamma, but the last month or two have cleared this up for me. SEE it is.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    liveandletlive is totally SEE. never a doubt in my mind, she reminds me of one i know IRL. plus look at how she deals with niffweed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    liveandletlive is totally SEE. never a doubt in my mind, she reminds me of one i know IRL. plus look at how she deals with niffweed....
    But does that have to do with her type or her response to the label of his type?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    But does that have to do with her type or her response to the label of his type?

    i will tell you after this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    But does that have to do with her type or her response to the label of his type?

    absolutely nothing. just my opinion on her type. didn't read the whole thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    absolutely nothing. just my opinion on her type. didn't read the whole thread.
    you may have perhaps misunderstood the nature of the question...

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    ah yes niff i did; i read the logos question as "But what does that have to do with...." and that wasn't what he said. so ok new question.

    i would say that her behavior has to do with her type not her perception of the label of her type, since her behavior is consistent across multiple threads. i suppose we all could start behaving in ways that are consistent with our type label...but this would be hard to do if it was not naturally who we are, so it would break down eventually. even on line, the longer somebody stays with the forum, the more posts they have, the longer their posts are, the more their type would tend to naturally shine through.

    i can't think of where i've seen it but liveandletlive and niffweed engage in repartee which seems dualized, also. but then again what do i know, i was kinda making a little joke about niffweed also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    i would say that her behavior has to do with her type not her perception of the label of her type, since her behavior is consistent across multiple threads. i suppose we all could start behaving in ways that are consistent with our type label...but this would be hard to do if it was not naturally who we are, so it would break down eventually. even on line, the longer somebody stays with the forum, the more posts they have, the longer their posts are, the more their type would tend to naturally shine through.
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    i can't think of where i've seen it but liveandletlive and niffweed engage in repartee which seems dualized, also. but then again what do i know, i was kinda making a little joke about niffweed also.
    Ha, it would be funny if niffweed really was an LII.

    The way I see conflictors on this board is that they just stay away from one another. Take Herzy and Minde; have you ever seen them engage in even a passing of words to one another? No. It simply doesn't happen. And what about Kristiina, or onetreehilluver, and force my hand, or Winterpark? Jack shit occurs between the former and the latter.
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    yeah but i talk to diana, minde, megan, discojoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    i would say that her behavior has to do with her type not her perception of the label of her type, since her behavior is consistent across multiple threads. i suppose we all could start behaving in ways that are consistent with our type label...but this would be hard to do if it was not naturally who we are, so it would break down eventually. even on line, the longer somebody stays with the forum, the more posts they have, the longer their posts are, the more their type would tend to naturally shine through.

    that makes perfect sense; that's what i've seen and that's probably what other people are seeing as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    yeah but i talk to diana, minde, megan, discojoe.
    So. Diana isn't necessarily an ESI, and you're not necessarily ILE (as you've shown). Minde is an EII. Megan could be anything. discojoe I don't think is an ESI. I don't care what Expat, he or Joy say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post

    The way I see conflictors on this board is that they just stay away from one another.
    often this is simply a result of differing focuses.

    cracka and i might make a very good example: he seems most interested in socializing or engaging in pointless talk (like the thread about underwear). likewise i'm more interested in talking about more tangible things, not to mention socionics.



    of course, the thing about differing focuses, which i think is very significant in this regard, doesn't apply to everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Diana isn't necessarily an ESI

    how is diana not "necessarily an ESI?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Take Herzy and Minde; have you ever seen them engage in even a passing of words to one another? No. It simply doesn't happen.
    For the record, I have talked with Herzy before. True, it's not really been in-depth or frequent, but neither has it been hostile.
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