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    Default Quadra Values

    http://www.the16types.info/groups.php?groupid=5
    http://www.the16types.info/groups.php?groupid=6
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    And there used to be computer functional analysis with my model right on the page. They got it from Russian articles according to Rmcnew.
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    THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THREAD TOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THREAD TOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by expat
    What is the source for those computer functional analysis of the types? I find them extremely useful, especially with the distinction between short and long range, such as the for ENTjs being actually - + and for ESTjs, + - .
    Expat actually said that. Shows how times have changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    http://www.the16types.info/groups.php?groupid=5
    http://www.the16types.info/groups.php?groupid=6
    http://www.the16types.info/groups.php?groupid=7
    http://www.the16types.info/groups.php?groupid=8


    And there used to be computer functional analysis with my model right on the page. They got it from Russian articles according to Rmcnew.
    So this is where it comes from. ...although the definitions are a bit different from yours...Their definition of -Ti actually sounds a little like some things you've said about +Ti.

    Their definitions seem very nuanced; someone must have taken a lot of time to come up with all those descriptions. Because the differences between then +X and -X are rather subtle here, at first glance it would appear that every quadra is exactly the same...although if one reads more closely, there are differences of emphasis, which aren't necessarily the same ones in more typical Socionic models.

    It would be worthwhile to try to find what article(s) this theory is from.

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    There are links on every types page called computer functional analysis on the16types. These links used to go to a alternate model A, the model A that I use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    There are links on every types page called computer functional analysis on the16types. These links used to go to a alternate model A, the model A that I use.
    It's all there in the web archve (e.g., http://web.archive.org/web/200703152...beta1-INTP.php

    Apparently it was considered a "beta" model (not beta quadra but some sort of unfinished prototype).

    Actually, though, the information is the same as the four pages you posted here, plus one particular definition of the 8 functions in Model A.

    But the real question is where did Jimmy get that from.

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    Jonathan do you have AIM? If so whats ur S/N?
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    heh everyone seems to be staying away from this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    Expat actually said that. Shows how times have changed.
    They have changed indeed, and I have consistently said that what I said in the past was often rubbish.
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    They have changed indeed, and I have consistently said that what I said in the past was often rubbish.
    The only things that is changed is that someone else said they didn't like it, so you conformed to them and said you didn't like it as well. When there was no opinion on it you were fine with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    The only things that is changed is that someone else said they didn't like it, so you conformed to them and said you didn't like it as well. When there was no opinion on it you were fine with it.
    I think you have to give Expat a bit more credit than that. People investigating something do change their minds. At one time, Expat thought he was LII, I believe, Joy thought she was SEI, and Phaedrus considered himself LII long ago.

    People do change their ideas and their models of things, and it's not as simple as just hearing someone else disagree and then conforming to the other person's view. I know your model equates Gamma with conformity somewhat, but Te and Ni is more about forming a mental model of what works, based on evaluating data.

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    BTW, I thought I'd share this with the group too...

    I had the strangest dream last night. There was a club just for certain people to whom this theory of +Xa/-Xb being in the ego block applies particularly well. It was called the "Clean Mouth Club" because Rmcnew made sure everybody in it went to the dentist and brushed their teeth regularly.

    (Sorry Rmcnew....but that was the dream. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    BTW, I thought I'd share this with the group too...

    I had the strangest dream last night. There was a club just for certain people to whom this theory of +Xa/-Xb being in the ego block applies particularly well. It was called the "Clean Mouth Club" because Rmcnew made sure everybody in it went to the dentist and brushed their teeth regularly.

    (Sorry Rmcnew....but that was the dream. )
    My dream was even stranger. I dreamt that hitta was actually *gasp* talking sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    My dream was even stranger. I dreamt that hitta was actually *gasp* talking sense.

    Is it possible to dream without a brain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    Is it possible to dream without a brain?
    Let me make a wild guess that humor is not your forte?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Let me make a wild guess that humor is not your forte?
    So you're criticizing a joke..... good for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    So you're criticizing a joke..... good for you.
    Well that answers my question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitta View Post
    want a cookie?
    Chocolate chip please. And I happen to prefer mine slightly burnt. Thanks, hitta.
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