Keith Olbermann

[aestrivex]

[Wittmont]

LSE.

I agree with his views and I'm very sympathetic to his line of thinking. But he comes across as a blowhard to me and I have a hard time not to giggle. Oh well just the way it is I don't want to be guilty of type prejudice >_<. He VI's as LSE too I think.

[aestrivex]

LSE.

I agree with his views and I'm very sympathetic to his line of thinking. But he comes across as a blowhard to me and I have a hard time not to giggle. Oh well just the way it is I don't want to be guilty of type prejudice >_<.

your response suggests that you're extremely guilty of type prejudice, if i'm understanding that concept correctly.

[Wittmont]

And you are guilty of bad sarcasm

[aestrivex]

And you are guilty of bad sarcasm

that was not sarcasm.

[Wittmont]

Ok, explain why he isn't LSE instead then. I am eager to bow to your insight and wisdom (that was bad sarcasm )

[aut0]

Ok, explain why he isn't LSE instead then. I am eager to bow to your insight and wisdom (that was bad sarcasm )

Well if he used the same logic you used, it'd probably be something like this:

I agree with his views and I'm very sympathetic to his line of thinking. But he comes across as a blowhard to me and I have a hard time not to giggle.

Hm, it's going to be really hard to refute this... Oh wait, I think he's WXYz type because he makes me think of floating butterflies in the morning.

Eye is so smart!

[Wittmont]

Erm, the comment I wrote about him being a blowhard was just an observation I threw out there, it didn't really have anything to do with why I think he is ESTj. He does come across to me as pompous and as a blowhard, that's just a fact. Hmm, come to think of it maybe ESFj is a better guess.

[Animal]

EDIT: Actually maybe LSI. (This is just V.I. and having watched two of the posted videos and knowing nothing about him.)

[aestrivex]

Ok, explain why he isn't LSE instead then. I am eager to bow to your insight and wisdom (that was bad sarcasm )

i'm waiting for some more responses first.

[Wittmont]

Hmm, maybe he is beta, but he looks extraverted to me. He is the spitting image of a guy I know, who works as a bank director, I don't see him often but get along with well when I do (he is part of my fishing buddy gang). I've only really read texts by Olbermann before, and they have seen a bit over the top on the rhetoric to me. But he seems genuinely offended by what Bush is doing to America. I think he is a traditionalist and in some ways a conservative. He was not very successful as an anchor before he found his niche with his current show, which is more or less Bush bashing. But it seems genuinely felt by Olbermann.

[Wittmont]

i'm waiting for some more responses first.

fair enough

[aut0]

I'd guess ENTp, but it's hard to see who he is when he's just repeating lines.

[Slacker]

I thought maybe he was INTp and that's why Niffweed wanted him typed - because he thinks they're somewhat alike.

I think he's a weak Fe type anyway. Like he is forceful and opinionated but his face and body are generally pretty static when he's talking. (I didn't watch that specific clip but we watch him often enough here.) Forceful with his words and strong with stating his opinion so at least values Se. I don't have a good reason for thinking he's a Te type other than that I can follow him. But I'm guessing Gamma anyway.

So we're all over the map with him, aren't we? I don't have a strong opinion about his type but I do kind of think Gamma.

[cracka]

He was not very successful as an anchor before he found his niche with his current show

He was actually quite successful on ESPN back in the early 90's, I'd say at the time he was the best sportscaster on that channel. I remember turning on sportscenter every morning and watching him.

[JuJu]

Just watched his show... This is one of those cases where I can't tell fo sho... ENTp is my best (admittedly) guess, based on what I've seen... (Compare with, for example, Bill Maher.) Any other ideas about Olbermann's type?

[Park]

niffweed has fallen asleep. Perhaps it's time for him to wake up and do what he said he 'd do. He does this a lot.

[tcaudilllg]

I agree with LSE. I remember him querying Obama one night, to the camera, as to whether or not he really believed the change in his stance on domestric wiretapping worth the price. (as though he knew Obama to be listening). He put it in really businessman-like terms: the Republicans aren't going to vote for you anyway, so what do you have to gain by legitimizing a violation of the law?

[JuJu]

I just watched a lot of Keith Olbermann on youtube (my head is spinning.) Now I can present an 'educated opinion'

First: tcaud et al, if he is ESTj, I would have to seriously reconsider my benchmarks for that type... He seems to use quite a bit of Ne--more than others ESTjs I've seen... For example, compare Olbermann's frequent use of Ne (and lack of Fi) to an ESTj in a comparable position, CNN HN personality Nancy Grace.

That said, tcaud, what you write about Olbermann's comment to Obama DOES seem to me to be an expression of Te, (like you interpreted it.) However, it does not seem to be out-of-line with 8th function Te, i.e. 'using Te to sell ideas,' (put very simply.) He was, after all, using it to persuade Obama (who may or may not have been watching--or had an aid watching.) In the videos I watched, I did see Olbermann use a lot of Te.

I considered INTp as well, b/c it was mentioned in this thread... Like I said, Olbermann DOES use a lot of Te; however, he does not use it incessantly, e.g. Ben Stein (INTp) or Gore Vidal (INTp,) who do... Whereas the Ni is blatant in Vidal and Stein, (just look at their faces, lol,) it is not with Olbermann... In fact, it's not a trait I noticed at all.

In thinking of ppl similar to Olbermann, (in terms of personality/presentation/sense of humor,) I thought of:
* Kevin Nealon
* Jon Stewart
* Larry David

Each of the above mentioned, I consider to be ENTp... Like them, I consider Olbermann to be ENTp... Probably the Ti subtype.