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    We've never had a thread on this man?

    What do you think of his type?






    Last edited by silke; 06-12-2014 at 02:39 PM. Reason: updated links
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    probably ESTj, but possible ENTj.

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    I-m pretty certain he s ESTj.
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    he LOOKS really ESTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    probably ESTj, but possible ENTj.
    I'm sick of these MBTT typings. They're so illogical when used in socionics

    How can he possibly be Si PoLR and possibly Si creative? There's no sense in it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    I'm sick of these MBTT typings. They're so illogical when used in socionics

    How can he possibly be Si PoLR and possibly Si creative? There's no sense in it at all.
    this wasn't an MBTT typing. I was proposing the Te base idea; I haven't looked into him enough to know his creative or polr.

    and model A isn't absolute truth, remember that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95 View Post
    maybe this is an example:

    i remember Lance writing that his earlier races were won with relatively less finnese - more so, he just pushed himself to do longer, more intense periods of high speed, instead of more conservatively approaching his pace.

    was it more so because he was willing to endure and ignore discomfort? (perhaps Te-base + Se-HA against Si POLR.) or was it because he was more in tune with how cycling affected his sensations? (perhaps strong Si.)

    3rd option: physiology isn't very socionics-related.

    but i think it stands to reason - it's not impossible for opposing function blocings to produce similar behavior. may be even more difficult to discern if someone is most famous for a narrow range of behavior. (e.g. their sport)
    He was just younger. I'm still very young, but I cant' and probably don't want to speed the same way as when I was 18 (also because I recognize that doing that would just destroy me on the longer term). And this is pretty common in cycling as you gain experience you know better which pace you can stand for hours; instead when younger you tend to know your body less and thus push without forethought. Imho.
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    I once watched a couple short videos of him and thought LSI seemed most likely. Before that I had thought LSE.
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    *Bump*


    I'm more curious about his type considering the major controversy he just caused:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ntary/1661751/

    Imo, I'm typing him 3w2 so/sp for enneatype and instinctual stacking, but not sure on his socionics type. The typings in this thread seem plausible though.
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    LSI

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    So, Sheryl Crow LSE
    Lance SLI makes the most sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by felafel View Post
    he's like a copy of bloomberg, but okay. glad we're all in agreement, anyway
    Bloomberg isn´t an ENTj either...

    I still think Armstrong is a typical form of screwed up, hyper-competitive ESTj.
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    LSE!
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    Socionics: ENTp
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    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
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    ESTj looks right...
    MBTI people typed him as INTJ, which is ridiculous

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    He's introverted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    LSE!
    what? what do you type sheryl crow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan View Post
    what? what do you type sheryl crow?

    I dunno, his dual? Delta NF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by felafel View Post
    it's possible, but i was thinking entj>estj for bloomberg, based on not much specific to share here. same w/armstrong. i'm assuming you know more about him coz of cycling etc, so i won't push this as you could be right.
    I think ENTjs are lighter and also appear, in B&D language, more loser-ish compared to ESTjs, even given the same level of accomplishment. Not as much "on top of things", so to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkworker View Post
    ESTj looks right...
    MBTI people typed him as INTJ, which is ridiculous
    ESTj and MBTI INTJ correlate pretty well, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labster View Post
    ESTj and MBTI INTJ correlate pretty well, imo.
    I meant the substance of INTJ, not the MBTI description.
    The real INTJ person and socionics ESTj are totally different.
    But I can see what you mean, the INTJ description is based on Te of INTJ too much, so it looks similar to ESTJ(Te dominant)....

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    Quote Originally Posted by labster View Post
    ESTj and MBTI INTJ correlate pretty well, imo.
    I agree. My Te-ESTj mentor types INTJ in MBTI.
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    i've typed Lance Armstrong LSI, but that's open to editing.
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    I'm 100% sure he is my conflicter LSI. I absolutely hate him. Not because of the doping. His whole personality. Values and demeanor.

    I'm being categorical about this one. Whatever type he is, I'm sure I'm the opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dattebayo View Post
    I'm 100% sure he is my conflicter LSI. I absolutely hate him. Not because of the doping. His whole personality. Values and demeanor.

    I'm being categorical about this one. Whatever type he is, I'm sure I'm the opposite.
    He drinks Pepsi, you drink Diet Coke for sure
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    ha ha close. I drink Zero
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    He's not a likable person and has not been for as long as I can recall, including when I lived in Austin, where he was venerated. He has always seemed like a dickweed to me, although I respected his achievements in the past. I guess my point is that getting the heebie-jeebies from him is probably NTR.

    As for his type, xxTj seems pretty clear, I know that the socionix gallery has him down as an ISTj, Ti sub; if he's LSI I could see him only as a rational sub, but frankly in watching a talking-head video of him I don't see some of the characteristics I expect from the type. For those who type him LSI, I'm interested in knowing why, beyond just not liking him. In particular, I have never noted anything about him that seems Ni-valuing.

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    If he weren't Ni valuing he'd have no way of knowing how quickly to pedal his bike along to cross the finish line first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rpsy View Post
    If he weren't Ni valuing he'd have no way of knowing how quickly to pedal his bike along to cross the finish line first.
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    He has an introverts facial and body relativity and architecture:



    And, no, Im not aying all introverts have the necrotic arch, lol, but back shots are rare:



    This dude has more body morphing than I once thought:



    He is kind of odd to type because he is consistantly engaging his face or body to the camera itself. He fairly much locks in place towards the camera or who he is looking at, which is typically at introverted behavior, except he does it narcissistically
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadae2point0 View Post
    except he does it narcissistically
    His type is probably "narcissist" above all.

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    ah, his arm veins scare me. I always thought LSE for him as well.

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    One of the good guys in all the cycling dope nonsense is Greg LeMond. What's his type?


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    Quote Originally Posted by dattebayo View Post
    I'm 100% sure he is my conflicter LSI. I absolutely hate him. Not because of the doping. His whole personality. Values and demeanor.

    I'm being categorical about this one. Whatever type he is, I'm sure I'm the opposite.

    ditto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by felafel View Post
    Can't think of anyone i know who 'likes' armstrong (when the subject's come up). They can't all be his conflict..

    I wonder what people think makes him an introvert?
    I know a lot of people who were die hard fans of his for years, and sported the stupid plastic Livestrong bracelets like it's some "cool" cult, had his fan page "liked" on FB, etc. He did have a big following, for God knows what reason... I guess those who looked up to his athleticism (before they found out it was all a sham).
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    Yeah he seems intensely IJ, logical, and too broad/assertive in the senses unlike how an Si/Ne would be. He reeks introversion LSE wtf.

    For VIing the calculative Ti subtype just think tuturututu/trevor:


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    All I know is, he looks like a douche bag, and a liar. Looks like someone who'd win at any cost. And this is something I thought before all the doping allegations.

    This picture has the eyes of a sore loser:


    So whatever personality is a terrible sport, some kind of INTx, that's what he is. Might be the Se polr I'm picking up? He has difficulty controlling the volume of his Se?

    If this were myers briggs I'd say INTJ, because I smell INTJ athletes from a mile away. They talk a lot of shit, and I keep my mouth shut until I win then I rub it in their face 20x as hard as payback until they cry, buncha fucking twats. I'm getting angry just thinking about them. /end rant
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    I like what Raver posted with Carlin, I don't really care about Lance Armstrong -- he is an athlete but imo all the celebrity worship and making him some kind of hero is BS, likewise all the "he has fallen from the top" is equally BS imo... really the entire thing is just what it is. He is an athlete, he trains to push his body to it's limits physically and he competes in competitions, he had cancer, survived it, and now potentially information is coming out about him using steroids or doping. It just is what it is... who really cares, I agree with Carlin fuck people trying to tell you who should be your hero and who shouldn't. It's the same kind of thing with Obama when they elected him he was supposed to be the "one" and now everyone is busting his balls over the fact he can't live up to the Jesus ideal... and its all created by this instability that the media wants to turn people into Angels or Demons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COMFINED View Post
    He's not a likable person and has not been for as long as I can recall, including when I lived in Austin, where he was venerated. He has always seemed like a dickweed to me, although I respected his achievements in the past. I guess my point is that getting the heebie-jeebies from him is probably NTR.
    Interesting I've never been big on the whole issue of Lance, I've mainly just ignored the hype. I'm wondering what stuff in specific gives you the heebie-jeebies about him?

    Like is it the fact he's introverted and not engaging/personal enough, or is it a kind of hyper-competitive thing, or is it something else? I'm just curious because I've never really followed the hype and it seems like you have a more long term dislike of him.

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    never thought one way or the other about him.

    you know it's funny how much famous people want to be famous and narcissistic, and want a lot of people to admire them and look up to them, but you can't really choose who your fans are that's the problem. For example my sister didn't even know who Aimee Mann or Fefe Dobson is. (two famous women that I'm a fan boy of, I don't really care if ppl make fun of me for it. =p) They're both very wealthy women with a lot of attention but not *everybody* is going to know who you are. I doubt everybody even knows who Oprah is... as much as that bothers her.

    people are just people and the narcissistic/empathy divide and the celebrity/'common man' is becoming blurred... I think that's why reality tv became so popular and it's one of my guilty pleasures. It's like people will do things to be powerful and 'above' other people but realistically you are always somebody else's bitch, somewhere.

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