Regarding the other people mentioned, I would say IEI for Barack Obama, LSI for Hillary Clinton, LSI for Vladimir Putin and EIE for Bill Clinton.
ILE (ENTp)
SEI (ISFp)
ESE (ESFj)
LII (INTj)
SLE (ESTp)
IEI (INFp)
EIE (ENFj)
LSI (ISTj)
SEE (ESFp)
ILI (INTp)
LIE (ENTj)
ESI (ISFj)
IEE (ENFp)
SLI (ISTp)
LSE (ESTj)
EII (INFj)
Regarding the other people mentioned, I would say IEI for Barack Obama, LSI for Hillary Clinton, LSI for Vladimir Putin and EIE for Bill Clinton.
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Bill and Hillary in a relation of conflict?Originally Posted by 1981slater
Donald Trump is SLE.
He uses creativeto explain things, but has somehow weak
. Anyway, he has a lot of energy and freely speaks his mind.
He likes Putin (LSI), as they are mirrors.
Ironically, I think Hillary Clinton is EII. So they are conflictors.
Bill Clinton is SLE too, I think.
Obama...now I think he is IEE.
I would say they're all Betas, but that some are undergoing inter-group conflict due to Democrats vs. Republicans. This is perfectly consistent with Betas on opposing teams.
The only Deltas I can think of in the field are Lincoln Chafee (EII) and Ben Carson (SLI).
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Social introvert or Socionics introtim? I'd say that he is far less of a clear leader figure compared to Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan (EIEs). Instead, he sorts of presides over things as a kind of 'philosopher king' or self-described visionary. He is affable and says the things he needs to so as to maintain support, but this is very instrumental (Creative Fe). However, I wouldn't say he is a passionate leader who unites his party emotionally. Instead, he fancies himself as a kind of intellectual with his causes of importance, like climate change (Ni + Ti). Note also that he is widely criticised as weak, lacking strength (very weak Se) to stand up to the likes of Putin.
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Obama is result + declaring = ESE, SLE, LIE, SLI. He is serious therefor the option is LIE or SLI.
He is an intuitive, so therefor LIE.
Socionics -
the16types.info
this clown is ENFJ
He asked about Jung's and Socionics introvert. While Obama is ENFP.
Reinin's dichotomies is delusion and not Jung's typology
Yes, and I answered according to that assumption.
Anyway, Obama's speeches are regularly about uniting people together under a common cause. His politics is very Fe-valued, saying things that the public will like, rather than focusing on the factual accuracy or emotional sincerity. Even more so is a sense of Ni, that there is a journey he feels he is shepherding America along. There is little to suggest individualism with Obama, rather he tries to work closely with everyone, drawing them together, being likeable and affable to anyone he has a chance of winning over... unless they are a political enemy. Rather than being whimsical and scattered over a wide range of interests, Obama has some focused aims, such as climate change, which he often brings up soon after winning an election and not having to worry as much about disapproval.
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek."
"If you're walking down the right path and you're willing to keep walking, eventually you'll make progress."
"The future rewards those who press on. I don't have time to feel sorry for myself. I don't have time to complain. I'm going to press on."
"People of Berlin - people of the world - this is our moment. This is our time."
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Ultimately he is the one pulling the strings, not the one pulling the weight. Plus I think he is a victim type. Just look at his wife...
ENFj.
Trump isn't a logical type.
As we reach for the stars, we must put away childish things; gods, spirits and other phantasms of the brain. Reality is cruel and unforgiving, yet we must steel ourselves and secure the survival of our race through the unflinching pursuit of science and technology.
- Stellaris
I predict he wins. And I also don't see him as a T type.
Same type as H*tl*r does make sense.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Same on both accounts.
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He would have had my vote.
No one wants him as their dual...
He is SLE, sadly.
@wacey Just because he acts like an idiot, doesn't mean he is not a T type.
[Today 07:57 AM] Raver: Life is a ride that lasts very long, but still a ride. It is a dream that we have yet to awaken from.
It's hard to find a love through every shade of grey.
Young Trump
His face looks so kind here to me. What the fuck happened?
[Today 07:57 AM] Raver: Life is a ride that lasts very long, but still a ride. It is a dream that we have yet to awaken from.
It's hard to find a love through every shade of grey.
In that picture, he has been temporarily overwhelmed by the love and protection he feels for his kid. He's pretty far from the guy he was and will be again.
Still, I see echoes of a guy who has been punched in the face, and expects it again. In that picture, Trump looks like a rich kid I knew in high school, who drank himself to death because he couldn't beat his industrialist father. Lots of pressure, lots of resentment. Lots of determination to not be fucked over by him again. How to do that? Either go big or go home (to an early grave).
Trump is still trying to go big, Not for you, not for me, but just to protect his own ass.
This is deep...
What a pity.
[Today 07:57 AM] Raver: Life is a ride that lasts very long, but still a ride. It is a dream that we have yet to awaken from.
It's hard to find a love through every shade of grey.
Almost definitely an Se base, probably ESTp
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See, this is sad. Like heartbreakingly so. Nobody should live in anyone's shadow unless he actually chooses that. People should just go and fulfill their own wishes / potentials, not the societies'. Not even of your family. You are a free being, act like it! Or denounce the freedom, but let it be YOU who has done that and not your family, your church or your whoever else!
...really.
lol Trueeeeee.
IEE Ne Creative Type
Someand role lovin too. (
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Why?
Because none of the stereotype that people have listed in this thread will make him another type jk
He's not realistic about what he wants to implement therefore ignoring Se. He also describes things in a very dynamic way. His pleasure side is extremely apparent with his choice in women.
I believe that he believes that he will bring harmony to the U.S.by his immigration policies Si.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
How his immigration policies are si?
Harmony, no conflict, peace in the US
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I disagree. He very deliberately wants to manipulate the angry white voteres who he appeals to and rile them up and get elected. He is either not aware of or doesn't care about the consequences if his policies were implemented, but he sure as hell does not care about harmony or the well-being of other people. He doesn't care if he runs this country into the ground as long as his massive ego is fed (not-type related, just a full-blown pathological narcissist).
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Donald Trump's Ghostwriter Tells All
Seems like an extreme extrovert.
Could Donald Trump Pass a Sanity Test?
An Ethicist Reads The Art of the Deal
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I was watching a recent interview about the Republican convention where Trump said the word "unfair" like 10 times in under a minute referring to how he was treated by Cruz. He also said "bad people" more times than I could count in the same interview.... bad people, unfair, bad people, unfair....
I watched his face as his son spoke very good things about him, after Cruz left him hanging and made him look foolish. Trump looked seriously hurt. He could not even change his own mood to match the speech his son was giving. He couldn't even enjoy it which makes me think now more than ever that Trump is an Fi ego or at the very least Fi valuer.
He is very focused on his own feelings and he admires Se (true but I admire Ni in others). His Fe might be 4D as a demonstrative function. I have never known an SLE (I know a few) who would show such whiny vulnerability in the public eye. I don't know any that I recall crying about how unfair they were being treated because it shows "weakness". I see that more in ethical types than logical types. The whole "bad people" thing he has going on points more to Fi ego, imo. I am good with him being SEE.
SLE typings for Trump just doesn't sit right with me. Everything about him contradicts the SLE I know and I just can't reconcile this typing. They are Fi polr so all this Fi I see in Trump doesn't add up. Trump is not logical at all. Anything he says that even hints at being logical is read off a teleprompter. Otherwise you get stuff like "bad people", "unfair" and:
Trump: "I'm Speaking to Myself" About Foreign Policy, I "Have a Very Good Brain" and "Instinct"
His "very good brain" is Ti polr, imo. His Fi is "speaking to myself" and his "instinct" is his Se.
Now he does a press conference where he openly states that he hopes that Russia finds Hillary's emails. WTF, that is such a bad move. Totally illogical and poor strategy. REALLY STUPID STRATEGY based on his emotions, not logic. I know this and I am supposed to be weak in Te and Ti. He has no control over his strong feelings. If he were SLE I can't imagine that his emotions would override his logic. I know it happens but usually in private. Not when trying to achieve such a lofty goal. I just see his weaknesses every time he speaks. He doesn't even try to hide them.
I am wondering what kind of SLE people here know, irl. This is not SLE.
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Treason
I like SEE for him. A really really fucked up narcissistic whiny version of an SEE.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
First thing I thought too!
Yeah, he has NPD I'm sure and he is whiny.
I know some awesome SEE so not typical. I am not saying that SEE are stupid by typing him that so I hope no one takes it that way. I am just paying attention to his words and actions that contradict the SLE I personally know and the SLE that are posted in various threads that I happen to agree with but won't "like" for my own reasons.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Trump is clear ENFJ
I have considered EIE for him too and it is not a bad guess but I have been watching him for months and I still think SEE is a better typing and explains why so many want to type him SLE. EIE are smoother and have better control of their emotions, imo. EIE are more "elegant".
SEE (aka ESFp, The Diplomat, Sensing Ethical Extrovert,)
Using extroverted sensing as her base function and introverted feeling as her creative, the SEE seeks to have a lasting impact on those around her. The SEE is a distinctly social type and she thrives in environments where social interaction is ubiquitous. She enjoys being the center of attention and is drawn to positions of power and influence. Like the SLE, the SEE is quite successful in attaining her goals; however unlike the SLE, the SEE focuses less on logic and more on an understanding of people and relationships to achieve these goals. The SEE is an energetic individual that is always on the go, and she is drawn to creatively expressing herself through her words, behavior, and fashion sense. At her best, the SEE is a charasmatic individual who is capable of leveraging relationships to her advantage. However, the SEE's self worth is closely tied to achieving a certain status or materialistic position, and thus it can be particularly painful to theSEE when these goals aren't reached. Additionally, the SEE has difficulty comprehending logic and amorphous or abstract concepts. Learn more about the SEE!Extroverted Sensing (Se,)
SEEs are active, energetic, and assiduous individuals who try to apply their energy and initiative to worldly tasks. They may often be natural leaders who do not hesitate to take the initiative in any endeavor, and possess the ability to motivate others into levels of greater activity and determination. They may, even moreso than SLEs, adopt a strategy of solving problems through sheer force of will rather than depth of strategy or insight. SEEs may have an unerringly proactive, real-world focus; their ambitions are usually centered around furthering some real world cause or doing some good in society rather than compulsive power-seeking. They can be shrewd, tactful, and sensitive negotiators and often apply their energy to the arena of persuading, activating, and motivating others.
SEEs are typically extroverts in every sense of the word. They are socially spontaneous, hyperactive, engaging, and enthusiastic. They may be predominantly oriented towards parties or other social gatherings, and may frequently and compulsively seek out new acquaintances, stimuli, or experiences. They often seek to augment the depth or intensity of their involvement in any affair -- including but not limited to exerting their emotional and physical energy. They may periodically seek out new stories, gadgets, media, or other things to obsess themselves over. Often they direct their energies to the sphere of social relations, in which they can exhibit a sense of obsessive attachment, intimacy, or closeness with others, sometimes leading contacts to feel smothered or uncomfortable due to a lack of emotional space. They may go about developing close relationships with a variety of acquaintances, effectively developing widespread social networks with a wide range of close contacts.
SEE are sensitive to the physical stimuli around them and may seek to overload themselves with the experience of the moment. They may tend towards materialistic lifestyles, sporting large collections of various kinds of gadgets or media. They adapt quickly to the changing needs of their environment and may shift quickly from hedonistic indolence to a state of vigor and vitality. They can often appear to act in a sudden, impulsive, uncontrolled, and confused fashion.
Introverted Ethics (Fi,
SEEs are often highly in tune with their emotional responses towards other people, groups, or ideas, and often may be inclined to act on their emotional reactions with minimal restraint. They tend to wear their emotions on their sleeves, and leave little doubt in the minds of others as to the nature of their emotional reactions towards almost anything. Their wide range of emotional responses, though often turbulent, may carry extraordinary weight and meaning to them, and they often deeply value their friendships and connections. They often tend to seek to expand their network of associates, getting to better know and deeply connect with new acquaintances. They may naturally take action in a decisive, morally principled fashion, though such actions tend to extemporaneous; they tend to be compulsive and uncontrolled, and others may perceive them as well-intentioned but erratic and unconscientious.
SEEs may be quite faithful and allegiant to those they are close to; however, their relations and emotional reactions towards others may be volatile and lubricious. Though they often aspire to treat everyone with whom they interact in a convivial manner, they may exhibit strong (and often variable) dislike of certain individuals. They may maintain an internal network of certain individuals whom they regard as friends, and others who they regard as jerks or otherwise with some antagonism. They often have little conception of the history of their emotional reactions towards others; they may be inimical and perncious one day, while incognizant of the conflict on the next.
In any relationship, SEEs feel more comfortable if they perceive themselves, and are perceived by others, as the "leader" in the relationship, as long as the "leadership" is freely and gladly acknowledged by the other parties, rather than grudgingly accepted.
Super-Ego Block
Extroverted Intuition (Ne,)
SEEs can be accomplished at offering perceptive potential explanations for the things going on around them. They are capable of generating novel conceptual structures and comparisons. They may make an effort to appear to have a handle on understanding and developing possibilities or potential mechanisms to apply to their environment, but in general they may tend to find such thinking tedious of minimal use in interpreting the actual effects of their actions in the real world.
As a lifestyle matter, SEEs are often oriented towards productive activity; they can be often impatient with abstract explanations or ideas, and they usually prefer tangible accounts of worldly affairs, and information that they can use and apply. They may prefer to work in real-world contexts or on projects that are subject to their influence, as opposed to trying to effectuate overly intangible ideas. They are more interested in identifying and understanding the processes around them and consequences of their actions than having to understand the underlying abstract conceptual framework. They may also be oriented towards thinking about longer term plans as opposed to evaluating extemporaneous or random experiences or information.
SEEs may find it difficult to consciously process ambiguity, uncertainty, or potentiality. When working on their goals, they may prefer to deal with any problems as they arise, rather than preparing for specific possible outcomes, of which they may have difficulty keeping track. They may sometimes become irrational or distressed if others around them become unpredictable or erratic, or if their environment becomes unresponsive to their pressuring influence.
SEEs are aware that there is often more to a person than meets the eye at first, and try to keep that in mind; yet their inclination is to trust more what their own experiences of that person have told them, especially when evaluating their capacity for work and assertiveness.
Introverted Logic (Ti,)
SEEs generally exhibit chaotic and uncontrolled lifestyles. They are motivated by their impulses and momentary feelings, and may have difficulty carrying themselves to fulfill day-to-day obligations and responsibilities. To the extent that their external obligations permit it, they tend to be habitually unstructured and vagarious. They do not engage in systematic decision-making and may instead base their behaviors on whimsical desires. They avoid restricting or regimenting their lifestyles based on rational or "common sense" behaviors and can resist attempts to bring order and stability to their lives.
They may have difficulty following externally imposed rules on their behavior, and may automatically resist being told what to do in matters pertaining to their lifestyle. They may have difficulty adapting their naturally impetuous lifestyle to some situations. Convincing them to change their ways is a gradual, tiresome and often thankless process, best accomplished by persons whose judgment they trust fully.
SEEs are often inclined to disregard what they see as petty rules and procedures, especially if those require a high investment of time and concentration in order to be understood and implemented, while blocking the SEEs from achieving their goals. If they are suddenly stopped in their tracks by external forces because of a previous disregard for such rules, they can lash out in frustration and impatience, while feeling helpless and angry at having been so sidetracked.Super-Id Block
Introverted Intuition (Ni,)
SEEs often have rapid-fire and uncontrolled thinking processes. They are not naturally reflective or contemplative of what they experience, and may regularly fail to consider the consequences or implications of their actions. They may have difficulty concentrating on their mental trains of thought and tend to be inclined to make hasty and impassioned conclusions about the state of their affairs. They can exhibit a tendency to conceptualize their world in overly simplistic terms, without recognizing the degree of intricacy and complexity of the situations around them. In general, they welcome the perspectives of others who can reason with a slower thinking process and help them to carefully mentalize the world around them.
SEEs often lack caution and reserve. Their strategy towards solving problems may involve persuasion and brute force; their natural response to opposition or obstacle is to display further aggression or resistance, including in instances where such resistance is not necessarily appropriate. They may be distraught, tempestuous, and highly emotionally turbulent when their strategy fails. Because of their manic instability, they can exhibit accusatory or antagonistic tendencies towards others; some SEEs fall into a cycle of ruining their relationships or vocational prospects in this way.
SEEs are naturally attracted to individuals who seem knowledgeable and secure as to how events will develop from a given starting point, giving them a more strategic perspective to their own more instinctive tactical approach. They are inclined to make impulsive decisions, based on immediate and short-term considerations, which the SEEs nevertheless hopes will have a positive result in the context of their long-term goals. They expect assistance from others in that regard, and are disappointed if they do not receive it.
SEEs can be insecure about the negative consequences of their actions. They may tend to instinctively suppress and avoid thinking of the negative or painful aspects of their history that their recklessness may have caused. They may lack a calming or guiding influence in their lives, and sometimes attempt compulsively seek out individuals or environments that they feel can unshroud mysteries to resolve their internal chaos.
Extroverted Logic (Te,)
SEEs are often industrious and can in working situations expend large amounts of effort towards their goals. They may be constantly take proactive action and seek out new information on their topics of interest. They may tend to flaunt the information they gather and may sometimes assume that the knowledge they have accumulated is infallible. They also may jump into attacking a problem with minimal preparation and may in some circumstances fail to acknowledge the futility of their proactive expenditures.
SEEs often seek out conceptual clarity from others, and may tend to expect others to assist them in accumulating and making sense of the world around them. They may come to be good at mining new information, but they often lack confidence in their ability to collect pertinent information and navigate the outside world with it in mind, especially on unfamiliar topics. They tend to be especially unskilled at analyzing new factual information in an appropriate context. Typically, SEEs feel that it is more important to apply information than to gather and extend it, and they may push what they know to make a concrete impact on others around them. They depend on the guidance of others to forge and refine the applications of their industries.
Id Block
Introverted Sensing (Si,)
SEEs can be concerned with their internal physical state and with matters such as aesthetics and internal comfort. They may be seen as lazy or hedonistic, and inclined to maintain commodious, warm surroundings. However, when the situation requires, most SEEs will readily toss aside such aspects and quickly mobilize for action. They often want to experience and see everything around them, and place little restriction on what they allow themselves to do. They may push themselves physically, emphasizing productivity and vitality over relaxation. Conversely, SEEs face no difficulty when undertaking activities that require focused attention on small details of their surroundings; yet they are as likely to overlook such details when those are unimportant for the goals they are pursuing at the moment.
SEEs tend to be materialistic, emphasizing their material comforts and personal successes over physical comfort and internal physical stability.
Extroverted Ethics (Fe,)
SEEs are generally adept at reading, reacting to, and often feeding off of the immediate emotional environment. However, they usually do not consider it very important to generate an emotional ambience and do not take on the responsibility upon themselves for fostering an emotional atmosphere when interacting with others. They might find extensive maintenance of a particular mood or group affect tiresome and superficial; instead, they tend towards focusing primarily on the emotional connections of their relationships with other individuals.
They may be inclined to read into others emotional expressions, body languages, and other cues -- however, attempts to do so are often a result of SEEs' unbridled emotional tumult and corresponding fears, and more often represent an attempt to discern one's internal state of mind. SEEs' can be drawn to those individuals who are quiet and inexpressive, yet faithful, understanding, and connected internally to their own emotional experiences.I still feel he values Fi>Fe. You are just typing him based on nonverbal clues. I have watched and listened for months.EIE (aka ENFj, The Actor, Ethical Intuitive Extrovert,
Using extroverted feeling as his base function and introverted intuition as his creative, the EIE excels at understanding people's strengths and potential. By intstinctively picking up on people's emotional states, the EIE can often accurately judge the psychological distance between a group of people. When socializing, the EIE uses this ability to determine ways in which he can encourage outsiders to participate in the group. The EIE has a propensity for edgy or direct commentary that is effective at breaking the ice. At his best, the EIE's understanding of people's strengths and interaction makes him a good leader and he can effectively put each person to their highest valued use. At his worst, the EIE's openness can lead him to easily get hurt by others and the EIE is not likely to forget these transgressions quickly or easily. Furthermore, remarks that were neither meant to be personal or insulting are often mistaken by the EIE as such. Overall, the EIE will often be a driving force of change in his world, and the EIE naturally seeks and accepts leadership roles that help him accomplish this. Learn more about the EIE!
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Those many type wrong in >70% of cases.
compare him with SEE men examples in my bloggers listI still feel he values Fi>Fe.
I type by what is enough to be sure in the type. While unlike nonverbality, people may say anything. Anyway, the essence of what he says is betish like was at Bush-jr (EIE too). It's good that you understand he has F type. When you'll get he's from beta, then next step to EIE will be short.You are just typing him based on nonverbal clues.
Trump doesn't seem like he is present in reality at all. So I say N. And obviously he's not great at logic so EIE is good.
No offense but I do not trust your intuition over my own and you should realize that by now.If you paid attention I think you would notice that Trump does not actually value Fe. He values Fi and his Ni is not very good. He looks for it in other people and he is constantly talking about people who can help him in such matters as foreign policy. He should know this stuff for himself. EIE are much better at it. He makes "predictions", some come true. So what? Lots of people do that. He uses Ne as a role function.
Introverted Intuition (Ni,
SEEs often have rapid-fire and uncontrolled thinking processes. They are not naturally reflective or contemplative of what they experience, and may regularly fail to consider the consequences or implications of their actions. They may have difficulty concentrating on their mental trains of thought and tend to be inclined to make hasty and impassioned conclusions about the state of their affairs. They can exhibit a tendency to conceptualize their world in overly simplistic terms, without recognizing the degree of intricacy and complexity of the situations around them. In general, they welcome the perspectives of others who can reason with a slower thinking process and help them to carefully mentalize the world around them.
SEEs often lack caution and reserve. Their strategy towards solving problems may involve persuasion and brute force; their natural response to opposition or obstacle is to display further aggression or resistance, including in instances where such resistance is not necessarily appropriate. They may be distraught, tempestuous, and highly emotionally turbulent when their strategy fails. Because of their manic instability, they can exhibit accusatory or antagonistic tendencies towards others; some SEEs fall into a cycle of ruining their relationships or vocational prospects in this way.
SEEs are naturally attracted to individuals who seem knowledgeable and secure as to how events will develop from a given starting point, giving them a more strategic perspective to their own more instinctive tactical approach. They are inclined to make impulsive decisions, based on immediate and short-term considerations, which the SEEs nevertheless hopes will have a positive result in the context of their long-term goals. They expect assistance from others in that regard, and are disappointed if they do not receive it.
SEEs can be insecure about the negative consequences of their actions. They may tend to instinctively suppress and avoid thinking of the negative or painful aspects of their history that their recklessness may have caused. They may lack a calming or guiding influence in their lives, and sometimes attempt compulsively seek out individuals or environments that they feel can unshroud mysteries to resolve their internal chaos.
His Se is not HA like an EIE.Extroverted Intuition (Ne,
SEEs can be accomplished at offering perceptive potential explanations for the things going on around them. They are capable of generating novel conceptual structures and comparisons. They may make an effort to appear to have a handle on understanding and developing possibilities or potential mechanisms to apply to their environment, but in general they may tend to find such thinking tedious of minimal use in interpreting the actual effects of their actions in the real world.
As a lifestyle matter, SEEs are often oriented towards productive activity; they can be often impatient with abstract explanations or ideas, and they usually prefer tangible accounts of worldly affairs, and information that they can use and apply. They may prefer to work in real-world contexts or on projects that are subject to their influence, as opposed to trying to effectuate overly intangible ideas. They are more interested in identifying and understanding the processes around them and consequences of their actions than having to understand the underlying abstract conceptual framework. They may also be oriented towards thinking about longer term plans as opposed to evaluating extemporaneous or random experiences or information.
SEEs may find it difficult to consciously process ambiguity, uncertainty, or potentiality. When working on their goals, they may prefer to deal with any problems as they arise, rather than preparing for specific possible outcomes, of which they may have difficulty keeping track. They may sometimes become irrational or distressed if others around them become unpredictable or erratic, or if their environment becomes unresponsive to their pressuring influence.
SEEs are aware that there is often more to a person than meets the eye at first, and try to keep that in mind; yet their inclination is to trust more what their own experiences of that person have told them, especially when evaluating their capacity for work and assertiveness.
Trump does not want someone to "stand their ground" against him. He wants to bulldoze them until they submit and if they don't he throws a hissy fit. An EIE who is sure of their opinions is less likely to throw a hissy fit. They are way more persuasive and calculated than Trump is. They are more likely to just look down on you. Not saying all EIE will. Bush makes more sense as an EIE than Trump.Extroverted Sensing (Se,
EIEs struggle with focus and willpower and have a need for something or someone that will focus them consistently and prod them to act despite any feelings of apprehension and doubt. EIEs know that they often need to "just do it" and often look for something or someone that will provide the impetus and make them "do it." EIEs are drawn to people who exude determination and resolve. People who are certain of their views and cannot be swayed by external forces are especially attractive. Such people are, in a way, the opposite of themselves.
EIEs can be brash and harshly critical during fits of passion, and they appreciate people who are not fazed by their ravings, but calmly stand their ground. If such people are at times angry and forceful with them, they take this as a sign that the person cares enough to be emotionally involved in their lives. In conversation, EIEs have a tendency to impose their opinions on others in a forceful way, especially when challenged by a point of view that conflicts with theirs. They dislike giving in to others when they strongly believe in their own way of doing things, and can act smug and arrogant towards people who openly criticize their viewpoints.
He knew when to keep his mouth shut and let others handle things he couldn't. NPD Trump says:
Keep at it. It is good you recognize he is ethical. You are one short step away from SEE. Do not condescend to me. Thanks. <3‘I Alone Can Fix It’
Breaking with two centuries of political tradition, Donald Trump didn’t ask Americans to place their trust in each other or in God, but rather, in Trump.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
SEE sounds really good for Trump. From what I understand what you see of Trump on TV is how he is everywhere, there is no act.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...iter-tells-all
This account of Trump from a ghostwriter of his (assuming it's real) makes him sound like an EP. Have no idea where people see the leading Fe.
"For the book, though, Trump needed to provide him with sustained, thoughtful recollections. He asked Trump to describe his childhood in detail. After sitting for only a few minutes in his suit and tie, Trump became impatient and irritable. He looked fidgety, Schwartz recalls, “like a kindergartner who can’t sit still in a classroom.” Even when Schwartz pressed him, Trump seemed to remember almost nothing of his youth, and made it clear that he was bored."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb2NHTka-gw
what about this. Where is Ted Cruz talk when he talk about trumps characteristics?
His main type is narcissist.
That said, it's hard to see how he is any kind of Fe dom when the gaffes that are dragging him down have to do with things like not understanding the delicate and sacrosanct nature of dealing with a fallen soldier's family, and the elementary importance of not splintering your party. The Hitl3r comparisons don't work that well -- he seems to have known his message and his audience and alliances and stayed on point.
A pitiful, broken version of SLE.
You have no idea what constitutes a decent policy position. Also the only experience Hillary has is in serving her own interests, but by all means though, stick your head back in the sand, maybe there will be free college, or if you're really lucky a country left when you pull your head back up.
Lol what
Hi, erk.
After WWII, the government was terrified that the country would return to the economic depression of the '30's. What to do with the millions of young men returning to civilian life? They decided to ease them back into the job market slowly by offering them all a free college education. Paid for by printing money.
How did this work out? Hyper inflation? No. Economic depression? No.
Instead, the country got the best science and technology in the world, dominated the world in business, made ground-breaking medical advances and put humans into space.
Investing in humans is always a good bet. Much better than telling them "You're fired!".
In much if not most degree because of immigrants. When you destroy other countries, rob them and hence have more money, you become more attractive, may pay more and get gifted people on this money. That's the main secret of USA advanced technology.
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