The Socionics Type Indicator

[Iconoclast IX]

I have taken it several times and have consistently scored "INTp - The Observer" on it (which hardly surprises me). The question is, how accurate do you think it is? There is no system of measurement whatsoever related to Model-A. Instead, it is based merely of exterior and interior traits. I am skeptical of its value and precision. What is your individual opinion? Is the type that the indicator produces for you the same as the type that you type yourself as?

[strrrng]

I mean, it is behavioral traits, but there are so many that it would be hard for a J to score as a P. like, it doesn't just say 'organized' or something....it has a multitude of traits measuring. but nonetheless, it could be better.

[aestrivex]

it doesn't give me consistent results. it might be better than some tests but is still not very reliable.

[BLauritson]

From what I remember, I generally scored ENTj or INTj depending on what mood I was in at the time. I'm not convinced of its accuracy; looking back on what little I remember, a lot of it seemed quite MBTI-test influenced (things like treating each letter as a dichotomy rather than the makeup of functions, the silly stereotype of E = friendly and outgoing, I = withdrawn and anti-social) etc.. I could be biased though, I don't put much faith in much of the info from socionics.com these days.

[aka-kitsune]

Works for me. I also tend to think it might be more objective than merely answering a list of questions that are open to interpretation, or annoyingly vague.

[aestrivex]

wait, is this the socionics.com test? i thought this was referring to hugo's test.


the socionics.com one is utter BS.

[Iconoclast IX]

Yes, I speak of the socionics.com test. I was thinking similar thoughts about it. It has absolutely no connection whatsoever to Model-A. Hugo's test is a bit better, though it never gives me a distinct result, but rather proclaims a tie between INTp-Ni and ENTp-Ti.

[Ezra]

I never knew STIs could be so beneficial.

[hellothere]

lol

where is hugo's (was he some stalker guy?) test?

[hellothere]

*bump*

could someone please direct me to it, if it is still online?

[Mea]

lol

where is hugo's (was he some stalker guy?) test?

http://www.people.iup.edu/rdxm/v6/ptest_intro.htm

[hellothere]

thank you

[Brilliand]

This test is no longer online, but it was written entirely in JavaScript, so it can effectively be retrieved from Wayback. However, Wayback won't tolerate people trying to actually use it (because it never crawled the page with those specific values, it assumes that it doesn't have anything to show you). I propose that we copy the test to the16types.info - I'll extract the pages from Wayback tonight, and then I suppose I can... rename them to .png and attach them to a post?

[Brilliand]

After further consideration, I've made this a Bitbucket repository:

https://bitbucket.org/Brilliand/hugotest

Quick download link:

https://bitbucket.org/Brilliand/hugo...c7c100fce6.zip

The test should work anywhere you unzip it (just open ptest_intro2.htm). Again, I propose that we host the test on the16types.info.

[717495]

I gots



ISTp, S subtype

OR

INTj, N subtype

[Galen]

ESFj, S subtype

OR

ENFp, F subtype

[Absurd]

Your proposed types are:

ESTj, T subtype or ESFp, S subtype

[Trevor]

Your proposed types are:
ENTj, N subtype
OR
INTj, no subtype

[ClownsandEntropy]

Your proposed types are:

ISTp, S subtype OR INTj, N subtype

What's the logic behind having two possible types?

[Pa3s]

Your proposed types are:

ISTp, T subtype OR INTj, no subtype

Ha! Pretty good for such a short one.

[Absurd]

Ye, it is not bad, surprisingly.

[golden]

ENFj, no subtype, or ESFp-F subtype

[eunice]

Not bad for a short and simple test.

My results:

INFp, N subtype or INFj, N subtype

[Trevor]

everyone got hir selftyping confirmed, except for poli

[woofwoofl]

Your proposed types are:


ENTj, no subtype

OR

ESFp, no subtype

[Brilliand]

Your proposed types are:

ISTp, S subtype OR INTj, N subtype

What's the logic behind having two possible types?

It can't differentiate between static and dynamic, so it just gives your most likely dynamic type and your most likely static type. In fact each question is either only for static types or only for dynamic types - there's no question that applies to both.

(Any suggestions for a good way to differentiate between static and dynamic so that we can improve this?)

[ashlesha]

thanks brilliand!

i tried it twice and got this

INFp, N subtype

or

ISTj, no subtype (first time) INTj, no subtype (second time)

[Azeroffs]

Your proposed types are:


ENTj, N subtype

OR

INTj, N subtype

[EyeSeeCold]

ILI or Ti-LII

[Absurd]

This is really interesting. Come on, people, take it.

[silke]

INFp, N subtype OR ISTj, T subtype - this is pretty good!

(Any suggestions for a good way to differentiate between static and dynamic so that we can improve this?)

can ask a question like if you're writing a story or playing a game would you prefer to create and develop one main character or would you prefer to create and follow through with several main characters

[Crispy]

Your proposed types are:





INTp, no subtype

OR



INTj, N subtype

[ClownsandEntropy]

(Any suggestions for a good way to differentiate between static and dynamic so that we can improve this?)

can ask a question like if you're writing a story or playing a game would you prefer to create and develop one main character or would you prefer to create and follow through with several main characters

Where statics would create one main character? Because that's what I would do. Though that may because I'm lazy and uncreative.

[silke]

Where statics would create one main character? Because that's what I would do. Though that may because I'm lazy and uncreative.

yes, statics seem to enjoy developing or playing for a single character and dynamics are likely to develop several though I don't know how accurate this is

[squark]

ESTj T sub, or ISTj T sub

[Brilliand]

Where statics would create one main character? Because that's what I would do. Though that may because I'm lazy and uncreative.

yes, statics seem to enjoy developing or playing for a single character and dynamics are likely to develop several though I don't know how accurate this is

For me it depends on how different the characters are, and how much extra it costs to develop more characters. If every character is completely separate with the same skill tree (and is a separate time drain), then I see no point in more than one. If I can control (and thus develop) all of them simultaneously, and each has abilities that the others can't get, then I'm definitely going for the many. If it's halfway (separate time drains with different abilities, or mass development of clones) it will depend on how lazy I am at the time. I think the "are their abilities unique" measure wins out more often, though.

Doesn't seem especially accurate...

[ClownsandEntropy]

Bump.

What would be a good question (or few questions) to differ between static and dynamic? (Or do you think that this deserves another thread?)

[woofwoofl]

Where statics would create one main character? Because that's what I would do. Though that may because I'm lazy and uncreative.

yes, statics seem to enjoy developing or playing for a single character and dynamics are likely to develop several though I don't know how accurate this is

When I made comics, it was something of a balance - usually one character was a bit more prominent than others, but the interaction between lots of main characters created the situations... lots of this was due to liking the show Friends and how they balanced all of those characters and made something totally amazing

Bump.

What would be a good question (or few questions) to differ between static and dynamic? (Or do you think that this deserves another thread?)

I'd love another thread for it it's a dichotomy I overlook quite a bit...

[EyeSeeCold]

Bump.

What would be a good question (or few questions) to differ between static and dynamic? (Or do you think that this deserves another thread?)

If you notice what is implied by Static/Dynamic, you will see that Static types have Pe and Ji, and Dynamic types have Pi and Je. Disregarding temperamental and placement-specific functional manifestations, Statics and Dynamics are unified by the respective pecularities of their perception(Pe or Pi) and judgment(Je or Ji).

Pi+Je types may come off as more intense, shut off personally, controlling, and outwardly executive; more non-self focused in terms of their wants and needs, but more self-focused when it comes to their attention, awareness and mental-preoccupation. Pe+Ji types come off as more approachable, more open with the going-ons of their life, more self-affirming and more outwardly ambitious/calculating; more self-focused in terms of wants and needs, but more non-self focused when it comes to their attention, awareness and mental-preoccupation.

[stray]

Your proposed types are:


INFp, F subtype

OR


ESFp, no subtype

Your proposed types are:

INFp, F subtype

OR

ESTp, no subtype

We're practically twins.