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    Default So hi, opinions please

    Do you think I belong here?

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    Yeah sure, I mean, you are the only person I've quoted, and referenced to in one of my avatars. +1

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    I mean in this "quadra". Loki, you're not istp anymore??

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    If I remember your picture correctly (holding the camera, in front of the mirror), then no. Some type with strong Si, probably more Te-Fi than Fe-Ti. I could make pictures all day, but I'd still wouldn't get that look in my eyes. If I have the same look, it means I'm very angry at someone, but it looked like a regular serious look in your case. Usually such big differences indicate different quadras. According to your body language and facial expression and how different that looked from me, I'd say you could be ISTp.

    Oh, and you look a bit like one ISTp I know from school.
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    Oh sorry! I don't stick to any one forum, I view them all and I didn't know this was under "Beta". I thought you meant "this forum in general"

    And yeah I'm still very much an istp. I'd say you belong here =]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    If I remember your picture correctly (holding the camera, in front of the mirror), then no. Some type with strong Si, probably more Te-Fi than Fe-Ti. I could make pictures all day, but I'd still wouldn't get that look in my eyes. If I have the same look, it means I'm very angry at someone, but it looked like a regular serious look in your case. Usually such big differences indicate different quadras. According to your body language and facial expression and how different that looked from me, I'd say you could be ISTp.

    Oh, and you look a bit like one ISTp I know from school.
    I always think I'm looking so happy and carefree in my pictures. I guess not, lol. I've always been told I look too serious even when i have no intention. Ah well. Just looking for some more insights. How can't one know their own personality? argh

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    How can't one know their own personality? argh
    Easy: you try to confine it to a rigid system of traits that doesn't encompass your whole range of behavior.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Under cerulean skies...

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    Hey Jessica

    You reminded me a lot of FDG in the pics I have seen of you (more than you both being yellow). Only seen those in passing tho. Similar bodylanguage and gaze. I dunno if you are beta but maybe you are FDG's type. Just a thought. I think there was a bit of confusion if FDG was beta ST too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Easy: you try to confine it to a rigid system of traits that doesn't encompass your whole range of behavior.
    Yes.

    As I already mentioned, I think ILI is a possibility, if not that, SLI. I really don't see much of a case for LSI. I see her having huge problems and dislike for and longing for . She does sometimes show some LSI-like "stubborness" but I don't think it's evidence enough against the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittmont View Post
    Hey Jessica

    You reminded me a lot of FDG in the pics I have seen of you (more than you both being yellow). Only seen those in passing tho. Similar bodylanguage and gaze. I dunno if you are beta but maybe you are FDG's type. Just a thought. I think there was a bit of confusion if FDG was beta ST too.
    Yellow? =D

    (by the way, I definitely have some things in common with Jessica, but also many differences; I don't feel like we're the same type (I'm pretty certain of being more extraverted than her, for one))
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Yellow? =D

    (by the way, I definitely have some things in common with Jessica, but also many differences; I don't feel like we're the same type (I'm pretty certain of being more extraverted than her, for one))
    Yup the pics had a yellowish tint And yes I do agree you are more extraverted than Jessica. You both were very intense in your pics, and it was mostly this intensity I reacted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittmont View Post
    Yup the pics had a yellowish tint And yes I do agree you are more extraverted than Jessica. You both were very intense in your pics, and it was mostly this intensity I reacted to.
    lol, i've tried to adjust my camera to fix that orangeness, doesnt work. I'm not orange in real life, i swear ; ) I guess I just don't notice this "intenseness" people are speaking of. I alwayssssss get told this and it irritates me as I think I scare people.

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    Yeah, on further consideration, I don't think you fit in with Beta quadra so much ...


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    I don't think i do either. Back to the drawing board!

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    More pictures are ALWAYS useful
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    I don't think i do either. Back to the drawing board!
    Read my description of Beta groups and see if that's attractive to you at all.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    You seem way more alpha than Beta, Jessica...from what little I know about you and your posts. You're definitely an alpha-type girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salawa View Post
    I'm onto your schemes. You only put so much emphasis on VI because you want to look at pretty women, don't you?
    NUH UH
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    You seem way more alpha than Beta, Jessica...from what little I know about you and your posts. You're definitely an alpha-type girl.
    How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    How so?
    It's really fun to see you and Gilly have your little dialogues in the forum. There's something to it. Maybe Si-Ne? But anyway, I definitely think you are probably some Si-Ne type. But I definitely wouldn't think you're alpha SF. How about ENTp?! Have you ever considered that? Because VI could work!
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    I've thought briefly about all the types, but I almost automatically disqualify all E's. Maybe that's not the right approach..is that the mbti thing to do? haha...I don't know, I just can't see myself being an "E" of any sort.

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    I think you're a blatent SLE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    I think you're a blatent SLE.
    Maybe on a good day. The internet is deceiving. Have you ever met a shy SLE that doesn't really enjoy people all that much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Maybe on a good day. The internet is deceiving. Have you ever met a shy SLE that doesn't really enjoy people all that much?
    Other than people you don't know well, right? Yeah, me. It's called "social anxiety."

    Although, I wouldn't exactly call myself "shy," even when I am anxious.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I don't think i would say I have social anxiety...it's just a general uncomfortableness around most people.


    Er, well, i guess that IS social anxiety. Who knows. But when I think of SLE, social anxiety is the furthest thing from my mind.

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    It's not related to type. It's related to your life.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Socionics is brainwashing me.

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    Welcome to the club.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Other than people you don't know well, right? Yeah, me. It's called "social anxiety."

    Although, I wouldn't exactly call myself "shy," even when I am anxious.
    wow, you suffer from social anxiety? It totally doesn't sound like it given what you've said in that huge argument with Diana on Niffweed's consensus list... good for you that you haven't let it get in the way of your life

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    Jessica, I think you're thinking too much in terms of MBTT.

    I'm not shy, but I like my own space. A lot. Sometimes I can seem far away in social situations, because the people around me simply have either no or an adverse effect on me.
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    Where can i find a straight-forward, no nonsense description of the differences between introversion and extroversion in socionics...in plain english? Something that gives detailed examples and doesn't contain those damn shapes or speak of POLR-superego-second function-conflicting relations blah blah blah nonsense? I refuse to sift thru that garbage, it means nothing to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Where can i find a straight-forward, no nonsense description of the differences between introversion and extroversion in socionics...in plain english? Something that gives detailed examples and doesn't contain those damn shapes or speak of POLR-superego-second function-conflicting relations blah blah blah nonsense? I refuse to sift thru that garbage, it means nothing to me.
    i don't know if you can. i've definitely looked for it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    Where can i find a straight-forward, no nonsense description of the differences between introversion and extroversion in socionics...in plain english? Something that gives detailed examples and doesn't contain those damn shapes or speak of POLR-superego-second function-conflicting relations blah blah blah nonsense? I refuse to sift thru that garbage, it means nothing to me.
    http://socionist.blogspot.com/search/label/extraversion

    best description yet. and the vids that demonstrate this are excellent, too.

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    Thanks sunshine, that was a good link. It only confirms again I am not an "extrovert"...something which i've pretty much known all along.

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    YW jessica. ok, now that we have that settled....what about your other functions? :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Jessica, I think you're thinking too much in terms of MBTT.

    I'm not shy, but I like my own space. A lot. Sometimes I can seem far away in social situations, because the people around me simply have either no or an adverse effect on me.
    Isn't that very typical of I's? What makes you see yourself as an E?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively View Post
    YW jessica. ok, now that we have that settled....what about your other functions? :-)
    I liked that link too. I have been thinking about what the theoretical differences between MBTI and socionics were when it comes to I and E. One thing I agree with MBTI is that introversion and extraversion are very strong parts of our character setup. (At least it is for me since I am a very strong I). Since Jessica is an introvert, and I think everything points to that, it is a good start
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    Jess, do me a favour. Description of yourself and your hobbies, your beliefs and values, and maybe a few pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittmont View Post
    I liked that link too. I have been thinking about what the theoretical differences between MBTI and socionics were when it comes to I and E. One thing I agree with MBTI is that introversion and extraversion are very strong parts of our character setup. (At least it is for me since I am a very strong I). Since Jessica is an introvert, and I think everything points to that, it is a good start
    I think where Socionics is definitely an improvement over MBTI is that Model-A makes it slightly more explicit that we have both introverted and extraverted functions and that there is sucha thing as an "introverted extravert" (SLEs can sometimes come off as rather introverted sometimes, especially when wrapped up in Ti), and an "extraverted introvert" (a .lot of IEIs are easy to confuse with their mirrors or illusionaries sometimes as they can be quite extraverted)
    "How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
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    I might do that when I get home. But I think i've posted more than enough pictures..and i did post 2 videos before. People are still confused, no conclusions were drawn. I don't know, i think it's a bit pointless as people are all across the board when it comes to my type; how i am online is NOT how i am in real life, I don't think people grasp that concept.

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