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    Still not absolutely sure of her type, I am debating between ISTJ and ENFJ. I was pretty sure of ISTJ and still am leaning in that direction, but today I had a little debate with an ENFJ and I could sort of see Implied's style in her behaviour. Pics as always are welcome.
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    I really see her as being an irrational type. I get the impression that she's more adaptive and laid back than rational types generally are. I guess I'm saying she's not uptight enough to be a rational type?
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    She didn't strike me as logical when I first heard from her, in June, and she still doesn't. But I think she's the kind of ethical type who doesn't care that much. I think she values Ti/Fe > Te/Fi, because of the vibe I get from her. It's like she came to conclusions about my type via what I'd said on EIDB. She once said "omg i just got that 'this guy is full of shit' vibe too". This is blatently a non-factual statement, with no hard evidence whatsoever. She was most likely influenced by board opinion at the time. I'd say Alpha SF was not unlikely.

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    i think she is an Fi/Te irrational. She strikes me as Ixxp but she could be a "quieter" extravert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    She didn't strike me as logical when I first heard from her, in June, and she still doesn't. But I think she's the kind of ethical type who doesn't care that much. I think she values Ti/Fe > Te/Fi, because of the vibe I get from her. It's like she came to conclusions about my type via what I'd said on EIDB. She once said "omg i just got that 'this guy is full of shit' vibe too". This is blatently a non-factual statement, with no hard evidence whatsoever. She was most likely influenced by board opinion at the time. I'd say Alpha SF was not unlikely.
    could you explain this? unless that's all. (vibe)

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    Somehow I don't think she's an ENFj....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington View Post
    could you explain this? unless that's all. (vibe)
    Specifically what do you want explaining?

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    ENFj seems to pop up a lot, despite the fact that i really don't see myself as EJ at all. IJ/IP makes a lot more sense imo. i'll make a video or something. i'm not exactly "100% sure!" on many things i post on this board, but i'm pretty confident that i'm neither the identical nor the mirror to dee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    She didn't strike me as logical when I first heard from her, in June, and she still doesn't.
    "Heard" from her? You make it sound like she called you.
    Is this some regular part of your speech?

    I seem to be sensitive to "implied relations" lately, no pun intended on that username.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    "Heard" from her? You make it sound like she called you.
    Is this some regular part of your speech?

    I seem to be sensitive to "implied relations" lately, no pun intended on that username.
    ho ho! but what you don't know is that ezra and i are like this *crosses fingers*. fwiw, i think i've only interacted with ezra briefly a few times on this board. this is the first time he's ever put forth a suggestion on my type.

    i did post a few times on EIDB and i recall that i did think in passing that you could be of a Ti/Fe quadra due to some things you had stated regarding how "everyone acts" in their teens. i don't see how me making this observation points towards alpha SF, though.

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    I tend to think she's IP. It seems to me that "relaxed, go with the flow" makes sense for her. (Do you think so implied?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    "Heard" from her? You make it sound like she called you.
    Hahahaha. Couldn't find the right word I was looking for at the time. I should've said 'when she first made her appearance in my first typing thread'.

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    I am sticking with ISTJ for the moment and I think that this might be final.
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    FWIW, I've never thought/said "S/he is so naive" except when I was around 15 and thought I knew everything. I miss that feeling, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby View Post
    FWIW, I've never thought/said "S/he is so naive" except when I was around 15 and thought I knew everything. I miss that feeling, actually.
    yeah, i just really don't see it. if i'm INFp i sure have a strong self-perception of being something entirely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    yeah, i just really don't see it. if i'm INFp i sure have a strong self-perception of being something entirely different.
    Or a strong perception of IEI being something entirely non-IEI :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Or a strong perception of IEI being something entirely non-IEI :wink:
    or maybe i'm just not? i just don't see it. i know i've dated at least two IEIs, one of which was my first "real" boyfriend (auvi's twin, fwiw.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian2 View Post
    I am sticking with ISTJ for the moment and I think that this might be final.
    thank you, dio. (;

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    To be honest, implied, most people have decided on an xEI consensus. Those pictures say neither Si or Ni to me. Someone more experienced is going to have to help.

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    I'm taking IEE back into consideration.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    To be honest, implied, most people have decided on an xEI consensus. Those pictures say neither Si or Ni to me. Someone more experienced is going to have to help.
    well, (and although he isn't "loved" here,) i have asked ganin & crew and they give me an opposite answer. other than that, i can't think of any "experienced socionists" who have typed me, aside from rick forever ago (INTp.) but i'm slowly thinking that group consensus is a bit of a crap way to decide things as we have cases like discojoe where everyone went with ISFj because the group did, or because more prominent members did. it's too groupthinky in general. there needs to be something done to counter that, but i think this has been discussed already.
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    "but i'm slowly thinking that group consensus is a bit of a crap way to decide things"

    How about that.
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    well, (and although he isn't "loved" here,) i have asked ganin & crew and they give me an opposite answer. other than that, i can't think of any "experienced socionists" who have typed me, aside from rick forever ago (INTp.) but i'm slowly thinking that group consensus is a bit of a crap way to decide things as we have cases like discojoe where everyone went with ISFj because the group did, or because more prominent members did. it's too groupthinky in general. there needs to be something done to counter that, but i think this has been discussed already.
    Good stuff. Individual research is the best.

    I'm an SLE of a combination of both factors. Perhaps this isn't the best method, but I think objectivity does count for something. As long as you're not XoX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    i can definitely see logic and introversion. s/n and j/p are not as clear. IJ/IP are not clear too. i would give her "older age", so perhaps serious with INTP or ISTP. the recent tests showed intp>istp, which i would personally contradict.
    You're fucking wrong she's ENFj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    i can definitely see logic and introversion. s/n and j/p are not as clear. IJ/IP are not clear too. i would give her "older age", so perhaps serious with INTP or ISTP. the recent tests showed intp>istp, which i would personally contradict.
    so ENFj or ESFj?

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    mmm
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    Oh wow... you don't move your eyebrows at all! This makes you look IxTp. I would be very surprised if you're my conflictor. So yeah, you do look INTp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    Oh wow... you don't move your eyebrows at all! This makes you look IxTp. I would be very surprised if you're my conflictor. So yeah, you do look INTp.
    hahhaaaaa... Scrap that! I was telling Erkki and Anneli (INTp and INFp who I live with) that I'm a bit sad Implied's not the same type as me. And then I played the video again to show them how you look INTp. And Erkki and Anneli both look at me like I'm totally nuts and they tell me you're so similar to me. Like... umm... they're really surprised I didn't spot the similarity.

    Erkki thinks you looks like me, Anneli said you have the same habit of saying "ummmmm" and fixing your hair like that. And the same keep-talking-need "I'm gonna say this and that so yeah, I am saying this and that and..." (to fill the silence).
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    intp or some fe type makes sense. i don't know a whole lot about socionics, but i know a little about implied and she is cool. she's very good at presenting her opinion or thoughts on a subject in an inoffensive, put-together manner. i think she's also capable of picking fun at people and types without being offensive or cruel. this makes me think Fe in that, "oh, they are so this and this. gosh!" way. i have a hard time imagining her as an IP type because even if she talks about her own laziness it is obvious she can buckle down when it is required.. The IPs i know are constantly missing appointments, or making a plan and not following through. my few ip friends have beening doing this lately and i've been getting angry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath View Post
    intp or some fe type makes sense. i don't know a whole lot about socionics, but i know a little about implied and she is cool. she's very good at presenting her opinion or thoughts on a subject in an inoffensive, put-together manner. i think she's also capable of picking fun at people and types without being offensive or cruel. this makes me think Fe in that, "oh, they are so this and this. gosh!" way. i have a hard time imagining her as an IP type because even if she talks about her own laziness it is obvious she can buckle down when it is required.. The IPs i know are constantly missing appointments, or making a plan and not following through. my few ip friends have beening doing this lately and i've been getting angry.
    i can always buckle down when i have to, but i'm curious as to what you mean by this. like not missing a term paper or something or having to do it all in one swoop? because i agree that i do that. i like to make sure i don't wind up overloaded with work at any point in time, so i usually try to break things down into chunks. this is a learned behavior, not anything i've ever done "naturally." just part of the process of learning good study habits, i assume. i like the idea of not flipping out at the end of semesters and such. i think you'll have a difficult time pinning me as some IJ type, though.

    but i can get secretly quite pissed as well when people break dates. i generally don't break them once they've been formalized, although sometimes i do. i also *think* i generally know which friends not to break dates on.

    i find the "INTp or some Fe type" suggestion interesting. i've begun to wonder if i'm too "nice" to be -polr (this seems obnoxious to say,) although i still don't think i'm likable enough to be Fe-cre. the Fe-cre person upon which i base a lot of my perceptions of Fe-cre has so many friends and excess acquaintances that she doesn't really know what to do with them all. i love expanding my circle of friends and all, but she's a bit excessive. although, i've also known -cre types who can pretty much make anyone like them, and i wouldn't call myself quite this confident in because i can obviously make enemies just as easily. i don't think i'm generally viewed as a huge dick, at least. but i think there are a lot of IXTps who aren't viewed as "huge dicks" either. (lokivanguard comes to mind. probably imfd95 and quirk as well.) anyhow, i'm curious as to how you relate my ability to criticize people in a soft way to , aside from what you've already said. i just think it's counterproductive to really slam people with criticism. although i think i can become pretty bitchy and "slamming" if it gets too ridiculous.

    i get ISTj far more often than i ever expected. it isn't entirely out of the picture, but i don't relate with it much or many beta quadra values.

    the only trend i've come up with as far as my type is concerned is that alphas nearly always think i'm ISTp or INTj, with the exception of that steve ENTp guy. other suggestions (from smilex) ENFp or ISFj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    is she not an ISTP?
    It depends what mood your in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    It depends what mood your in.
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    implied is coolio, yo foolios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    @ Cyclops:

    not mood but block, idiot. go read transactional analysis (their "child" is both: superego and superid, they just didn't see it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard View Post
    He... he's joking, dee....
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