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    I'm not sure what being duals with an intelligent type says about you. Does that make you smart or dumb?
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    Neither, but asking that question sure says something.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Gilly meant Neither. He's just a fucking blowhard.
    "Those who make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard
    Gilly meant Neither. He's just a fucking blowhard.
    Thanks.

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    Yes it does.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Yes it does.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

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    Just to clarify, duals IMO seem to compensate for the each other's weaknesses. So that would point to a skewed intelligence in the dual pair. However, since they have the same order of elements, when the "maybe less intelligent type" uses these "smart" elements, they place the same emphasis on them that the more intelligent type places on them. Hence, my confusion. There could also be no correlation and my first postulation can be wrong.
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    You're going to have to define what you mean by intelligence for this to go anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard
    Gilly meant Neither. He's just a fucking blowhard.
    That he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive
    Just to clarify, duals IMO seem to compensate for the each other's weaknesses. So that would point to a skewed intelligence in the dual pair...
    Wait, if you take this line of reasoning you might suppose that one dual should be beautiful to compensate for the other's ugliness, etc.
    What weakness does an intelligent person have that a dumb one would be able to compensate for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive
    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard
    Gilly meant Neither. He's just a fucking blowhard.
    That he is.
    You can claim this as soon as you know what you're talking about.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick
    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive
    Just to clarify, duals IMO seem to compensate for the each other's weaknesses. So that would point to a skewed intelligence in the dual pair...
    Wait, if you take this line of reasoning you might suppose that one dual should be beautiful to compensate for the other's ugliness, etc.
    What weakness does an intelligent person have that a dumb one would be able to compensate for?
    i guess u need to define what intelligence, beauty, and ugliness is in terms of socionics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive
    Just to clarify, duals IMO seem to compensate for the each other's weaknesses. So that would point to a skewed intelligence in the dual pair...
    Wait, if you take this line of reasoning you might suppose that one dual should be beautiful to compensate for the other's ugliness, etc.
    What weakness does an intelligent person have that a dumb one would be able to compensate for?
    i guess u need to define what intelligence, beauty, and ugliness is in terms of socionics.
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    lol @ this topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive
    I'm not sure what being duals with an intelligent type says about you. Does that make you smart or dumb?
    First of all there is technically no such thing as "an intelligent type".

    Second, people are usually happiest with other people who have rather similar level of intelligence but complementing functional preferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Second, people are usually happiest with other people who have rather similar level of intelligence but complementing functional preferences.
    Thank you Dr. Phil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Second, people are usually happiest with other people who have rather similar level of intelligence but complementing functional preferences.
    Thank you Dr. Phil.
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    heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    I'm not sure what being duals with an intelligent type says about you. Does that make you smart or dumb?
    Based off of your signature I'm gonna go ahead and make the call that liveandletlive is ENFj or INFp. She sounds like the type of person that goes against authority at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    I'm not sure what being duals with an intelligent type says about you. Does that make you smart or dumb?
    Depends on what you consider to your own personal dumb/smart spectrum. For instance, one could easily point at any so called "smart" person and find many a "dumb" flaw within them. Smart or dumb at/in what !?!?!

    In other words, duality isn't about that, specifically.

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    Live just thinks intelligent=NT.
    Considering the way IQ tests are structured, she's following the commonplace definition of intelligence... the one most people here know is wrong... and the one INTps are secretly convinced of :-P

    No Live, you are not dumb. You can kick those INTps' asses anytime you want.
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    For what's it worth, I've met some serious dumb SEE, but it didn't effect our relationship at all.

    But what Liveandlive proposed, could also be looked at from the opposite angle. Having a powerful, witty, seductive, popular dual, what makes that us then :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoSpirit View Post
    Live just thinks intelligent=NT.
    Considering the way IQ tests are structured, she's following the commonplace definition of intelligence... the one most people here know is wrong... and the one INTps are secretly convinced of :-P

    No Live, you are not dumb. You can kick those INTps' asses anytime you want.
    hahaha i know. idk... just wondering where i stand. plus too, i think the notion that NT=intelligence is pretty much commonplace around here, and SF=dumbass. so yeah, just questioning that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    For what's it worth, I've met some serious dumb SEE, but it didn't effect our relationship at all.

    But what Liveandlive proposed, could also be looked at from the opposite angle. Having a powerful, witty, seductive, popular dual, what makes that us then :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    i think the notion that NT=intelligence is pretty much commonplace around here, and SF=dumbass.
    actually, if you paid any attention at all, you would find that you are the only person that thinks that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    I'm not sure what being duals with an intelligent type says about you. Does that make you smart or dumb?
    Huh? What are you saying?? That some types are intelligent and some types are not????
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    actually, if you paid any attention at all, you would find that you are the only person that thinks that.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    actually, if you paid any attention at all, you would find that you are the only person that thinks that.
    hahahahahahahahahaha. good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    hahahahahahahahahaha. good one.
    i'm not quite sure what that means, but, to clarify: the comment was completely serious.

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    Not to say that intelligence is type-related, but the normal conception of it (i.e. what is measured on IQ tests) is definitely related to logic, intuition, and Ti more than any other element. Which of course brings up the small issue of what it really means to be "strong" in a given element.

    I've been reading the journal of a high-IQ society lately, and the kinds of experience its members share all seem to be related to developing NT at the expense of SF, regardless of their actual types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    i'm not quite sure what that means, but, to clarify: the comment was completely serious.
    there's a BLATANT bias here that NT=intelligence. ask any SF person here. you're on the other side of it all so you may not be as aware of it... but yeah.
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