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    (I apologize for any minor obscenities here -- it's all for purely scientific purposes )

    :
    dude, you need to get some action
    I need a ______ (insert body part)
    to get some _______ (insert body part)
    ... etc.

    :
    I'm horny
    I feel like __(having sex with)__ someone
    Want to cuddle up with me?

    Summary:
    sex talk focuses on the external act of "getting" something and objectifies what exactly is required to satisfy the sexual need, whereas sex talk focuses on the sexual state being experienced


    More examples, anyone?
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    Another observation is that intuiters only really talk "sex talk" with sensers, and usually one on one. When they talk about it in public, they really aren't talking about sex itself (that would be too awkward and uncomfortable), but always seem to put it in some other context. For instance, an EIE I knew would constantly shock people by using sex-related obscenities, but his purpose was to get a reaction, not to convey information about sex or his sexual state. He loved to stick in the word "masturbate" whenever he could, using it in the most creative ways possible. Another EIE frequently mentions his own complexes regarding sex and other things without being asked, but here the emphasis is on the complex (a comfortable topic for EIEs) rather than on sex. dominant types always seem to frame "sex talk" in the context of "I'm curious about..." or "I was just wondering..." or "one thing I've noticed is...," (heh, like this thread) which they feel very comfortable using. So the emphasis is no longer on their possible sexual desire or actions, but on their mental interest in the subject.

    Sensers generally seem much more comfortable admitting publicly that they have sexual needs and telling others about their "accomplishments."
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    I though "I'm horny", which from your classification is , was something pretty universal among the quadras

    Very good examples those about EIEs though.
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    i must be sensing then.

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick
    (I apologize for any minor obscenities here -- it's all for purely scientific purposes )
    you should have set a markup like this :

    [spoil:2436369889]or such[/spoil:2436369889]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively
    i must be sensing then.

    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively
    i must be sensing then.

    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively
    i must be sensing then.

    LOL
    ....
    .....

    ?????

    lol

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    So we have , , and . The question is, how does come into play in sexual behavior?
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively
    i must be sensing then.

    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iconoclast IX
    So we have , , and . The question is, how does come into play in sexual behavior?
    We just sit there fantasizing about doing it
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    Perhaps types casually mention possible sexuality. Or create a context. Like winking mischiviously when there are only two people in the elevator. Of course wouldn't agree to anything in an elevator, but at least hints at the possibility. Hinting is a very thing to do in this area, because the aim is to make the other person initiate.
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    I rarely talk about sex in the first person - I usually have to invent characters to save me embarrassment - they have childish voices, and always ask each other if they want to play. They usually like sweets and giving each other hugs, but there is also something deeply sinister about them - almost adult-like . They might use metaphors like 'making the beast with two backs', or refer to some grunting noise they heard in a scary alley somewhere.

    I also use my two hands to represent two people mirroring each other's actions, and then one hand moves 'upstairs' (I do this outdoors too, but it's not like the meaning is completely clear to begin with), and then the other hand follows, and they kind of end up spiraling upwards. I do these things to make people laugh, rather than so that they will have sex with me, obviously... But it's amazing how much I can tell about a person from the way they laugh (if they aren't laughing at me, and they are female, it is usually a good sign).

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    I can talk about sex just like I can talk about sports, food, or anything else really trivial...lol

    I could probably talk about sex with a nun without making them feel uncomfortable.

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    I've actually found intuitives talk sex with their identicals a lot for one reason or another.

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    Is that supposed to be a vague metaphor there in the avatar, Baby? Charlie Brown and his Christmas Wood?

    Sorry about that, but I felt it had to be said!

    Anyway, sex is never a topic that I bring up first. When the subject does come up though, I'm usually very indirect about it all. I also have trouble trying to discuss these things in purely physical terms without resorting to some kind of emotional tie or experience (which depending on the audience sometimes earns me some blank stares). For example, when my SLE roomie inevitably poses the question, "Who/which one is hot(ter)" and I start weighing their personalities, I always get a .

    When I worked at UPS, there was this one guy (maybe ESFp) that within five minutes of meeting him went into excruciating detail about his sexual escapades, porn collections, etc. It didn't bother me too much, and I didn't want to make him feel embarrassed (he was a very nice guy), but I do remember thinking, "Wow, that's the kind of thing that I'd probably never tell anybody!" Mostly, I just laughed along and listened. It was a very one-sided convo, but sometimes people just need an attentive ear. It's funny how different two people can be, yet still get along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    I've actually found intuitives talk sex with their identicals a lot for one reason or another.
    Fascinating observation. I have never noticed this before. How true this is.
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    i feel awkward talking about it with identicals. I feel most comfortable talking about that kind of stuff with a beneficiary or a benefactor. dunno why

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    I only talk sex with the person I want to have sex with, and then only when it's just us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifmd95
    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg
    I only talk sex with the person I want to have sex with, and then only when it's just us.
    so does this post mean you want to have sex with the entire forum??
    Context, dude...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    i feel awkward talking about it with identicals. I feel most comfortable talking about that kind of stuff with a beneficiary or a benefactor. dunno why
    Funnily enough, this is true for me too. I also talk with my Semi-dual, LII about sex quite often. He's one of my close buddies and it doesn't seem awkward at all for us. Other than that though, I never really talk about anything sexual with my LSI female friends - I'd think that would be so strange ... I don't see it happening anytime soon either. Identicals are easier, yeah... mirrors in a joking way. Only with the LII is it ever serious in any case.


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    See, my semi dual would probably kick my ass if I just tried to sex talk with her - so it's out of the question with me. The ones I know IRL would definitely not be up for it - but they are in a relationship, so it makes perfect sense.

    Sometimes they dress really nice, and talk about related things, but never directly say it - and because I don't want to get involved most of the time, I don't go there. - as far as ESIs go.
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    I don't really think that there are many people that "talk about sex" in terms of who they have been with etc etc in public, but I don't really know why there should be a problem talking about it one-on-one with anybody.
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    Ha. This is very informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    I don't really think that there are many people that "talk about sex" in terms of who they have been with etc etc in public, but I don't really know why there should be a problem talking about it one-on-one with anybody.
    well even one on one there's a difference between talking about sex and intimately talking about sex. The former is a lot easier than the latter, it's what most people talk about when they talk about sex, it's vague, non-threatening, even common, mostly repeating things that have already been said multiple times by many people in many situations, but it doesn't stab anywhere near the heart of the matter... in order to intimately talk about sex, now that's a different matter, that involves putting your guard down to your ankles with the risk of tripping over yourself. Kind of like falling backwards and hoping the person you're with will catch you because if they don't you're going to hit the ground hard and bump your head. In fact this kind of talk is so rare that even people that have sex with each other rarely indulge in it, not only that but they avoid it to the point of watching their relationship collapse so they can find someone else to have sex with and do the same thing, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    I don't really think that there are many people that "talk about sex" in terms of who they have been with etc etc in public, but I don't really know why there should be a problem talking about it one-on-one with anybody.
    well even one on one there's a difference between talking about sex and intimately talking about sex. The former is a lot easier than the latter, it's what most people talk about when they talk about sex, it's vague, non-threatening, even common, mostly repeating things that have already been said multiple times by many people in many situations, but it doesn't stab anywhere near the heart of the matter... in order to intimately talk about sex, now that's a different matter, that involves putting your guard down to your ankles with the risk of tripping over yourself. Kind of like falling backwards and hoping the person you're with will catch you because if they don't you're going to hit the ground hard and bump your head. In fact this kind of talk is so rare that even people that have sex with each other rarely indulge in it, not only that but they avoid it to the point of watching their relationship collapse so they can find someone else to have sex with and do the same thing, lol
    absolutely.

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    Yeah. Just like the episode in Seinfeld where George Constanza was mixing up sex with food and watching tv, all at once -- he would eat his sandwiches and watch his mini-tv in bed, but hidden from his girlfriend. He did not talk to her openly about his sex + food + tv need, so it all ended in tears. He had to go for a woman who shared the combination, but who had an annoying son. If he had told everything openly to the original one, it could all have been different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    I don't really think that there are many people that "talk about sex" in terms of who they have been with etc etc in public, but I don't really know why there should be a problem talking about it one-on-one with anybody.
    well even one on one there's a difference between talking about sex and intimately talking about sex. The former is a lot easier than the latter, it's what most people talk about when they talk about sex, it's vague, non-threatening, even common, mostly repeating things that have already been said multiple times by many people in many situations, but it doesn't stab anywhere near the heart of the matter... in order to intimately talk about sex, now that's a different matter, that involves putting your guard down to your ankles with the risk of tripping over yourself. Kind of like falling backwards and hoping the person you're with will catch you because if they don't you're going to hit the ground hard and bump your head. In fact this kind of talk is so rare that even people that have sex with each other rarely indulge in it, not only that but they avoid it to the point of watching their relationship collapse so they can find someone else to have sex with and do the same thing, lol
    Oh yeah good point overall (even if I wouldn't be as pessimistic as you on the final outcome)
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    People who know me have realized that talking about the version of sex talk is useless in my presence (At least they tell me so). I never get it, completely miss it or just ignore it. I've never actually observed anybody displaying the version of sex talk, even just saying I'm horny. (But that could be me, as in, people don't do that only in my presence)

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    According to eyewitnesses:

    Richard Nixon: "Did you fornicate last night?"
    John Kennedy: "I need to get laid -- I can't sleep before I get laid".
    Bill Clinton: "I'm very horny tonight".
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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    well even one on one there's a difference between talking about sex and intimately talking about sex. The former is a lot easier than the latter, it's what most people talk about when they talk about sex, it's vague, non-threatening, even common, mostly repeating things that have already been said multiple times by many people in many situations, but it doesn't stab anywhere near the heart of the matter... in order to intimately talk about sex, now that's a different matter, that involves putting your guard down to your ankles with the risk of tripping over yourself. Kind of like falling backwards and hoping the person you're with will catch you because if they don't you're going to hit the ground hard and bump your head. In fact this kind of talk is so rare that even people that have sex with each other rarely indulge in it, not only that but they avoid it to the point of watching their relationship collapse so they can find someone else to have sex with and do the same thing, lol
    Hmm. I'm interested to know whether I've actually ever talked sex "intimately" in the sense described here. And I really like the metaphor you use too.

    I recently had the experience of getting acquainted with someone I found increasingly attractive. Clearly an extrovert who was VERY comfortable spouting copious amounts of type sex talk around me, once we broke that initial emotional wall. It was difficult, b/c I was so attracted, but he had a girlfriend. Conflicted! I wanted to take that sex talk (and HIM) somewhere, but... *sigh.*

    So I generally approached his enthusiastic swaths of sex-laced conversion and innuendo with seeming disapproval (yet covert jubilation).
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