Originally Posted by
reyn_til_runa
Originally Posted by
Jarno
Originally Posted by
Expat
So which are the positive qualities that would compensate for those negative ones, in your view?
Objectively speaking, they bring joy, fun and atmosphere.
In my view speaking (it seems like a covert attack on my type b.t.w. ...sigh...): Since it is my dual, I've been mostly counscious to the feelings that I get from them, like feeling total comfort, complete trust, a buddy, someone who I know very well. The things they say hit a spot, so to say. They surprise me again and again. You instantly get happy when being in their company.
uhm, generally a statement such as "they bring joy, fun, and atmsphere" cannot be objectively spoken.
so i see what you've done -- come up with a reason that this totally subjective experience could possibly be objectified. you try adequatlely, to your credit, but come on jarno. let me get this straight, you are "mostly" conscious of the feelings you get from them...total comfort, complete trust, a buddy, someone I know very well. the things they say hit a spot, so to say. they surprise me again and again. you get happy when being in their company." AND your feelings are mostly negative towards them? BIGGER AND "they bring joy, fun, and atmosphere" is considered an objective statement. i don't speak like this. i know you say this is not a discussion about your type, but either i am not ILI or you are not. you are far too subjective without seeming imaginative. in other words, you seem to think these experiences you quote actually ARE objectifiable.
You are not ILI, you are LII. LIIs do not understand a few things about the way ILIs speak. They are constantly badgering ILI with posts like this. They take it as their personal crusade to correct ILI at every chance they get, on their language. Threads are constantly hijacked.
Here is why they are stupid for this
1: ILIs speak toward their subjective impressions, and organizing them in a logical way
2: ILIs use context to clarify a words meaning. ILI says 1, 1b, 1c, 1bc, 1bcb, etc... LII says 1, 2, 3, 4
3: to the extent a person can relate to an ILIs subjective impressions, they can interpret the ILIs language. The subjective impression is the comprehension of the idea in its entirety. 1b can't be interpreted without an understanding of 1, 1bc requires an understanding of 1, 1b, 1c, etc.
4: the interpretation of language is always subjective
5: LIIs hold to the ideal language is objectifiable
6: An objective idealistic interpretation of language creates a tendency toward linguistic confusion. LII sees 1b, 1c, 1d, and thinks "1, 2, 3"
7: this tendency LIIs have causes many word confusions. Philosophy is a big LII word confusion.. sometimes psychology also.
Example: homosexuality is a chemical interaction in the brain. Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexuality is a mental disorder. Homosexuality is a product of certain social developmental patterns. Homosexuality is a sexual fixation. Homosexuality is not a sin. Homosexuality is not a mental disorder.
LII cannot reconcile the language game, ILI can. LII will think the statements contradict one another, ILI can see them side by side. All because language is subjective.
ILI creates the purest form of language. Stop being a fly.
This goes for all LIIs; and actually, all alpha