Originally Posted by
Kristiina
The text sucks. If I knew a person like that, I'd probably make him trip "by accident". What a horribly wordy (rhetoric) person! "Oh I'd be like Jesus! Oh crucified! Oh extremist! blabla". If betas were actually like that, I'd move to delta!
If I'd type that text, I'd say that it's some extremely mentally malfunctioning Fe dominant! There are some extremely unlikely associoations there (jesus vs Thomas Jefferson, wtf?), so it feels like lack of proper Ni, but the logic of Ni is always subjective, so it could be an insane ENFj. More likely ESFj! (that is your previous Dual, UDP! You should love that kind of super Fe stuff! I'd look up some of your ESFj-praise posts but I'm too lazy).
Well I think you have to view this passage in its proper context to judge it correctly. King was an African American man, a Baptist minister, and speaking the context of the American Civil Rights Movement. This is actually the work of a sublime rhetorician. (I'm going to go all English-major on you, so be warned.) He is appealing to an intrinsic ethos and credibility he has as a minister in aligning his convictions with those of Jesus. Also, I don't think he's necessarily equating Jefferson with Jesus, but rather appealing back to the Declaration of Independence as a document that was "extremist" in its time, but which his country proclaims to be founded upon.
I don't really see anything "insane" or "sucky" about this, really. Of course, if it were coming from someone with less credibility (say, some random poster on this forum), it would indeed sound delusional and histrionic. But King was dealing with some serious stuff - lynchings, the KKK, McCarthyism, etc. so the comparisons are not out of place.
Granted, I'm not sure what is particularly Beta about it - except to say that possibly that "extremism" may not be such a bad thing when championing certain aims (although that isn't exclusively Beta, is it?).