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    Is this related to superego block?

    I think I am always paranoid about being a bad person. (role Fi)?

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    Interesting. I've known many LSIs to have serious fears similar to yours. They constantly want to apologize for the littlest things and do have this tendency to want to be "Good"... or whatever their interpretation of that is.

    My greatest fear is probably just failure, or being alone, or being thought of as worthless. Not seeing what that really has to do with PoLR or role function though.


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    Only fear I have is getting old and regretting any major part of my life.

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    4th is paranoia, 5th is a true fear
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    hm, not sure if you're using a different def of paranoia, but I've found in my personal experience that my polr (Se) is closer to indifference/total misuse.. than to excessive worrying, even though I think that its not indifference either.

    But yeah.. that is my fear.. that I'll have to live with no resolution about being "bad"

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    Hmm, I wouldn't call this fear, more like paranoia, but when I have to write something (especially philosophy stuff GRRRR) from a purely logical perspective, I always think my arguments or critiques of other people's are never that strong. I suppose I do have a sort of visceral fear of confrontation in general, but four years of working customer service at a bank kinda forced me to face up to it. Still despise it and avoid it whenever possible though. In this regard, I think your super-ego hypothesis might have something to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    hm, not sure if you're using a different def of paranoia, but I've found in my personal experience that my polr (Se) is closer to indifference/total misuse.. than to excessive worrying, even though I think that its not indifference either.
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    I'm pretty sure mine is incompetence or something of that sort. would that relate to Se polr or perhaps Se 5th?

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    fuck you people have some tame fears...

    my greatest fear probably is that some day I'll be forced to watch my family be torchored in the most horrible of ways, with vice grips, blow torches and electric drills, while aristocratic power fuckers or some sort of gangsters laugh and joke while getting their jollies and amusement off it. Stuff like that.

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    lol, you're right, that's some pretty scary shit! Basically, if any of the Hostel films actually reflected things that were going on, yeah, that would be my greatest fear of all time. It wouldn't even have to be people I knew. It seems so easy to me to deny that there are people like that, but god knows there has been, so there almost certainly has got to be.
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    Primary fears:
    That the world will end.
    That the singularity wont happen.
    That I'll die before the singularity happens.

    Secondary fears:
    Failure
    Being alone
    Feeling trapped by circumstance
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    * that i'll have to repeat this exact same life over again until i get it right.
    * that i'll not have gained the skills etc needed to succeed in the next life.
    * that uncleared parts of this life will muck up aspects of the next life.
    * that I'll decide to come back for another life.
    * that I won't decide to come back for another life.
    * that there won't even be an option to choose.

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    Hmm...I'm afraid of...not much. I have phobias I guess, like hieghts (shudder). But having a fear is like admitting you can't conquer anything you come across, and I refuse to accept that. It doesn't make sense to accept it. I'm going to fuck up a lot in the course of my life but my life (unless I make a deadly mistake lol) is going to keep moving on. Even if I make this deadly mistake, it's just that, a mistake. And I'll die for it and then what? The cycle of life will keep going. No worries. Good times.


    Alright, I guess a small fear might have to do with money or lack thereof. But thats more of a worry, because I see no reason why I can't be sucessful and make my money. I just see it as being pretty hard, lots of work, lots of responsible shit that I'll have to force myself to pay attention to. Hence the worries.

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    Something that honestly freaks me out is thinking that because I believe there is no soul, there is no immutable signature that is 'me'... meaning that when I die, that 'me-ness' will be transferred to someone who has yet to be born - I will have to endure all sorts of pain, life-time after life-time for millions of years or until humankind's end. The only plus side is that I don't have to remember all the shit that happened to those past 'me's'.

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    I fear many specific things, but there is nothing I truly fear, except perhaps being completely broke.
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    Dying without having accomplished something I deem as worthy of having lived for.

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    something horrible happening to one or both of my kids.

    being fucking alone for the rest of my life.

    losing my job in today's economic climate.

    globalthermonuclear war.

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    Something terrible happening to my daughter, my husband, or myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively
    something horrible happening to one or both of my kids.
    Someone help me out here... I would tend to think that this is every parent's worst nightmare... Maybe there are people who don't really think about that though? They just assume it won't happen, or it just doesn't generally cross their minds?

    Is this fear related to Si?

    being fucking alone for the rest of my life.
    Hmmm...

    I used to fear that I'd have a good relationship and then after years of thinking things are great, suddenly and without conscious choice on my part realizing that I'm not happy and leaving. I suppose that would be a fear of thinking I had the Fi I needed and then losing it due to my not having control over my own Fi or not being aware of my Fi in that I didn't realize that I was becoming distanced from someone until it was too late. (Now I don't worry about that though because someone else has it taken care of. <3)

    So yeah, I had been wondering if perhaps LIE fears are similar to ILE fears... the difference being that we need different things from someone in order to allay those fears.
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    My greatest fear is either death, life or chainsaws...I cannot decide. I suppose I also really fear letting someone down very, very badly - things like that really get to me - I also fear remembering my past mistakes over and over, like a monkey with a miniature cymbal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively
    something horrible happening to one or both of my kids.
    Someone help me out here... I would tend to think that this is every parent's worst nightmare... Maybe there are people who don't really think about that though? They just assume it won't happen, or it just doesn't generally cross their minds?

    Is this fear related to Si?

    being fucking alone for the rest of my life.
    Hmmm...

    I used to fear that I'd have a good relationship and then after years of thinking things are great, suddenly and without conscious choice on my part realizing that I'm not happy and leaving. I suppose that would be a fear of thinking I had the Fi I needed and then losing it due to my not having control over my own Fi or not being aware of my Fi in that I didn't realize that I was becoming distanced from someone until it was too late. (Now I don't worry about that though because someone else has it taken care of. <3)

    So yeah, I had been wondering if perhaps LIE fears are similar to ILE fears... the difference being that we need different things from someone in order to allay those fears.
    hmmm interesting i think. i guess the parallels i see in this is fear of the loss of attachments and connections. perhaps ILE and LIE would have secret doubts about their ability to remain attached or something...

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    I think the 4th and 5th functions can be where our fears come from. It seems others think it's the 3rd... perhaps it depends on the subtype? Or person?
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    well 4th and 5th blocks tend for ILE is relationships/health, for LIE it's health/relationships, so i guess that makes sense.

    personally i don't usually have fears about getting sick unless i think very deeply about it or if i actually become sick with something weird that the docs don't know what it is. i guess this would speak to a deeper, less conscious fear, whereas the Fi related stuff is more conscious and what i would identify if asked.

    if we follow your hypothesis, joy, for LIE the conscious fear would be health related, the unconscious fear more relationship oriented. this fits with some things you've talked about over the last couple of months here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively
    hmmm interesting i think. i guess the parallels i see in this is fear of the loss of attachments and connections. perhaps ILE and LIE would have secret doubts about their ability to remain attached or something...
    Bingo. Scares me to death to think about. Keeps me from getting into relationships. That, being alone, and dying without doing anything productive with my life are probably my biggest fears.
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    I wish I kney. If it's Ne, then I s'pose you could say I'm paranoid about being open to possibilities i.e. I don't want to be seen as narrow-minded, because I used to be seen as very open-minded, and it would come as a shock to find that the case was otherwise.

    As for fear, this is another case entirely. I don't really know what I fear - it's very, very hidden to me. I'm almost if not totally oblivious to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine Lively
    well 4th and 5th blocks tend for ILE is relationships/health, for LIE it's health/relationships, so i guess that makes sense.

    personally i don't usually have fears about getting sick unless i think very deeply about it or if i actually become sick with something weird that the docs don't know what it is. i guess this would speak to a deeper, less conscious fear, whereas the Fi related stuff is more conscious and what i would identify if asked.

    if we follow your hypothesis, joy, for LIE the conscious fear would be health related, the unconscious fear more relationship oriented. this fits with some things you've talked about over the last couple of months here.
    It's not really a fear of getting sick... I'll send you a PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    fuck you people have some tame fears...

    my greatest fear probably is that some day I'll be forced to watch my family be torchored in the most horrible of ways, with vice grips, blow torches and electric drills, while aristocratic power fuckers or some sort of gangsters laugh and joke while getting their jollies and amusement off it. Stuff like that.
    Hm yeah.. sometimes I think about intruders or sometimes when I'm driving.. hey MSK, be sure you're prepared emotionally if someone shoots you in the head at the stoplight!

    what is that, weak Ni? Paranoid Se? IT's weird I don't know but it seems less pervasive to me than a "moral" fear, which could last potentially forever.

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    I have no fears, not even death :wink:

    Okay, so in socionics, what is that supposed to mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean
    I have no fears, not even death :wink:

    Okay, so in socionics, what is that supposed to mean?
    They're probably hidden to you, like with me. You're not conscious of them.
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    taking the wrong path in life because of a lack of foresight. Or making a bad decision involving another person. I generally fear poor self-assessment. Being wrong about myself seems like the worst thing in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean
    I have no fears, not even death :wink:

    Okay, so in socionics, what is that supposed to mean?
    They're probably hidden to you, like with me. You're not conscious of them.
    Probably just like with my ESTp dad, the fear that other people will think you are afraid. He'll do the dumbest things just to show that he's not afraid.
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    To get old and die having not had enough fulfillment and experiences in life, so that I can say, "it was all worth it" and "I have lived"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean
    I have no fears, not even death :wink:

    Okay, so in socionics, what is that supposed to mean?
    They're probably hidden to you, like with me. You're not conscious of them.
    Probably just like with my ESTp dad, the fear that other people will think you are afraid. He'll do the dumbest things just to show that he's not afraid.
    You know of the Enneagram? That is textbook cp6. However, I still can't differentiate between this and the fear that the 8 has of not looking or being strong.
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    By the way, when I say I don't have big fears, I don't mean to say I don't fear anything. I'm generally afraid of heights, and I have a phobia for knives too, and I don't like horror films at all. But I can't really list any "big" thing I'm afraid of.
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    of loosing touch with reality.
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    I'm afraid of someone asking me questions (regarding facts about the product I'm selling) and I'm unable to tell them.

    Or when discussing a topic that I have little knowledge off.

    And I fear being alone, in anyway. Or being rejected by someone close to me (like they suddenly lose trust in you, betray you, etc.)
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    I'm a bit paranoid about everything but I don't recognize any specific fears.

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