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    Default South Park characters

    Stan : LIE
    Kyle : ILI
    Cartman : SLE
    Kenny : EII
    Butters : EIE
    Tweak : LIE
    Token : EII
    Wendy : SEI
    Craig : ILI
    Timmy : ESE

    Randy Marsh : LIE
    Sharon Marsh : EII
    Shelley Marsh : SLE ?
    Jimbo Kern : LSE ?
    Gerald Broflovski : LSI
    Sheila Broflovski : EIE
    Ike Broflovski : ILE ?
    Liane Cartman : EIE
    Stuart McCormick : LSI
    Carol McCormick : LIE ?
    Stephen Stotch : LSI
    Linda Stotch : EIE

    Mr. Mackey : ILI
    Principal Victoria : LII
    Ms. Garrison : EIE
    Chef : ESI
    Mayor McDaniels : LIE
    Officer Barbrady : ILI ?

    Sorry if you don't find some characters. I didn't type them yet.

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    You are joking me.

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    What about towlie?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiVanguard
    What about towlie?!?!
    I think he's SEI, but I'm not really sure...

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    No way is Butters an EIE. Love Butters, he is so innocent, wholesome and naive. He might be INFx or ENFp. Cartman is probably ENTp, he is just not physically tough enough to be SLE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan


    No way is Butters an EIE. Love Butters, he is so innocent, wholesome and naive. He might be INFx or ENFp. Cartman is probably ENTp, he is just not physically tough enough to be SLE.
    He's too zealous to be an Introtim. People don't reject him because he's unsociable or unexpressive, but because he's retarded.

    EDIT: I didn't mean all EIE's were retarded.

    EDIT2: Cartman is an SLE, because he's too physically impulsive to be an ILE. He's very stimulation-seeking, and he can't be an IN type. Therefore he's an ES type. Besides, types are more inclined to have strong language. Besides, he can't be ILE, because ILE's are Process, and SLE's are Result. It's easy to see the Result-like behaviour in Cartman. Never doing anything sequentially, always focusing on expected consequences more than what he does.

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    Cartman is EIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Cartman is EIE.
    Just for having imitated ****** ?

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    lol stereotypes are fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Cartman is EIE.
    Just for having imitated ****** ?
    Uhm, no... he's absorbed by an image he creates in his mind, he becomes that image. And the way he "plays" the villain and wants otehr people to "play" along, very in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Cartman is EIE.
    Just for having imitated ****** ?
    Uhm, no... he's absorbed by an image he creates in his mind, he becomes that image. And the way he "plays" the villain and wants otehr people to "play" along, very in my opinion.
    Umm...are you taking into account that he is also a child?

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    I see where you're coming from snegledmaca, but I don't think he necessarily has strong Fe... just valued Fe. He seems to lack any concept of when it's appropriate and when he needs to stop. I do, however, see strong Se.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    He's too zealous to be an Introtim. People don't reject him because he's unsociable or unexpressive, but because he's retarded.

    Can't Fe-leading INFp's come off as zealous?

    He isn't retarded, just excited and lacking knowledge on certain things. Someone just needs to take him under their wing, like a SLE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    He's too zealous to be an Introtim. People don't reject him because he's unsociable or unexpressive, but because he's retarded.

    Can't Fe-leading INFp's come off as zealous?

    He isn't retarded, just excited and lacking knowledge on certain things. Someone just needs to take him under their wing, like a SLE
    I think Cartman is somewhat becoming a friend of Butters...

    But I don't think Butters is easygoing enough to be irrational. He focuses clearly on norms "my parents are gonna ground me" or such.

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    Rationality has nothing to do with focusing on "norms".
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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Cartman is EIE.
    Just for having imitated ****** ?
    Uhm, no... he's absorbed by an image he creates in his mind, he becomes that image. And the way he "plays" the villain and wants otehr people to "play" along, very in my opinion.
    Umm...are you taking into account that he is also a child?
    Not that kind of play, cooperation. He subconsciously requires constant active engagement of the other person. I don't see how any irrational type could be like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Rationality has nothing to do with focusing on "norms".
    http://socionist.blogspot.com/2007/0...tionality.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    He's too zealous to be an Introtim. People don't reject him because he's unsociable or unexpressive, but because he's retarded.

    Can't Fe-leading INFp's come off as zealous?

    He isn't retarded, just excited and lacking knowledge on certain things. Someone just needs to take him under their wing, like a SLE
    I think Cartman is somewhat becoming a friend of Butters...

    But I don't think Butters is easygoing enough to be irrational. He focuses clearly on norms "my parents are gonna ground me" or such.
    How is knowing the consequences of your actions irrational? I would think the irrational part would be doing the thing that will get you grounded anyway, despite what you know will happen. Which...he usually does...lead by Cartman.

    I think he's exremely easygoing, he goes with the flow with his friends. Like in the WoW episode. He's just very excitable, which does't equal non-easygoing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    He's too zealous to be an Introtim. People don't reject him because he's unsociable or unexpressive, but because he's retarded.

    Can't Fe-leading INFp's come off as zealous?

    He isn't retarded, just excited and lacking knowledge on certain things. Someone just needs to take him under their wing, like a SLE
    I think Cartman is somewhat becoming a friend of Butters...

    But I don't think Butters is easygoing enough to be irrational. He focuses clearly on norms "my parents are gonna ground me" or such.
    How is knowing the consequences of your actions irrational? I would think the irrational part would be doing the thing that will get you grounded anyway, despite what you know will happen. Which...he usually does...lead by Cartman.

    I think he's exremely easygoing, he goes with the flow with his friends. Like in the WoW episode. He's just very excitable, which does't equal non-easygoing.
    Well, but he's retarded.

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    Butters isn't retarded

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Rationality has nothing to do with focusing on "norms".
    http://socionist.blogspot.com/2007/0...tionality.html
    hmmm...

    For now I'll just say I don't entirely agree with some of the description of rationality... there are other dichotomies mixed in there, dichotomies that don't apply to all rational types. I'll post something there or talk to Rick or something later.

    In the meantime, do you have another source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc

    Well, but he's retarded.
    No, I don't believe he is. At the very least he is a ditzy little kid.


    Remember these are fictional children...who say adult things written by comdedic adults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc

    Well, but he's retarded.
    No, I don't believe he is. At the very least he is a ditzy little kid.


    Remember these are fictional children...who say adult things written by comdedic adults.
    A writer can imagine an character. He won't necessarily call that "EIE".

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc
    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion
    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc

    Well, but he's retarded.
    No, I don't believe he is. At the very least he is a ditzy little kid.


    Remember these are fictional children...who say adult things written by comdedic adults.
    A writer can imagine an character. He won't necessarily call that "EIE".


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    UPDATE

    Stan : LIE
    Kyle : SEI
    Cartman : SLE
    Kenny : EII
    Butters : EIE
    Tweek : LIE
    Chef : ESI
    Craig : ILI
    Wendy : SEI
    Token : EII
    Jimmy : LIE
    Timmy : ESE
    Bebe : ESI
    Pip : IEI

    Stan's Dad : LIE
    Stan's Mom : EII
    Stan's Sister : LSI
    Stan's Grandpa : SLE
    Kyle's Dad : LSI
    Kyle's Mom : EIE
    Kyle's Brother : ILE
    Cartman's Mom/Dad : EIE
    Kenny's Dad : LSI
    Kenny's Mom : LIE
    Butter's Dad : LSI
    Butter's Mom : EIE

    Teacher Garrison : EIE
    Principal Victoria : LII
    Mr. McKey : ILI
    Ms. Choksondik : ESI
    Jimbo Kern : LSE
    Ned : LIE
    Big Gay Al : SEI
    Dr. Doctor : LSE
    Officer Barbrady : SLI
    Father Maxi : ESI
    Harrison Yates : LSI
    Towelie : SEI

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    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Cartman is an SEE (to the extent that the characters are realistic enough to have a sociotype). Though I could understand the thing (and the obvious allusions to ******, who seemed to make copious use of ), Cartman always seems to manipulate people on a personal level, getting people to do what he wants for some moral reason. He is constantly aware of other's attitudes and feelings about everything.

    The is easy to see because of his impulsiveness, and ability to locate weaknesses in others. But unlike an SLE, who tends to analyze some way that weaknesses can be an advantage, he instinctively knows someone's attitudes and morals, and what they are drawn to. Also, I can see Butters as an ILI, and Cartman abuses Butter's implicit trust of his and , in a sort of perversion of duality.

    The whole show has a Gamma-like quality to it, even though the creators buck the system and have a strong disdain for conventions. But the primary criticism the show levies at society is a very kind of criticism.

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    Matt Stone - IEI-Fe
    Trey Parker - SLE-Se

    Stan - SLE-Ti 6w7 sp/so
    Kyle - LSI-Ti 6w5 so/sp
    Cartman - SLE-Ti 8w7 sp/sx
    Kenny - IEI-Ni 4w5 sx/so

    Chef - ESE-Si 8w9 sx/so
    Mr. Garrison - ESE-Fe 7w8 sx/so
    Mr. Slave - SEI-Fe 6w7 sx/so
    Randy Marsh - IEE-Ne 6w7 so/sx
    Sharon Marsh - ESI-Fi 6w5 sp/sx
    Sheila Broflovski - LSE-Si 8w9 sp/sx
    Gerald Broflovski - EII-Fi 1w9 sp/so
    Liane Cartman - ESE-Fe 2w3 sx/so
    Butters - EII-Ne 9w1 so/sp
    Wendy - SEE-Fi 3w4 so/sx
    Bebe - SLE-Se 3w2 so/sp
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Cartman's typing will cause disagreement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Cartman's typing will cause disagreement.
    Yeah he's a narcissist so its bound to be controversial; I've considered ILE, EIE, LIE for him, too.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Stan -SLI - Very flat tone. Expresses facts to people when he has a point, and in general just really reminds me of my brother in law.
    Kyle - EII - Always puts things in terms of right and wrong, and is amazed at how Cartman doesnt see the potential problems with his control-centered plans. Definitely a Causal-Deterministic type based on how he puts together his thoughts verbally.
    Cartman - SLE - Conquer the world. He can't stop himself from trying to use force to acquire assets, and he constantly attempts to use Ti to gain momentum, even if in the face of Te that contradicts him.
    Kenny - He's a mixed character. The Coon episodes center around him, and are the richest in Kenny dialogue, but they also are totally different than how Kenny usually is. Kenny usually shows Fe from under his hood.But in those episodes he was a very serious type, and i think an ESI. So he's kind of mixed, but i think he's normally a xEI, probably SEI if i had to guess

    Butters - The Fe is ridiculous with butters. He also hilariously points out moments of Fi. Combine that all with how he's totally un-assertive abd his manner of insecurity, I would go IEI. Especially with the way he looks up to Cartman too, it seems like a bit of duality.

    I find it interesting that the Main characters(Stan and Kyle), who happen to be the most level-headed and - in general - not so funny, are of the opposing quadra as the creators of the show. And the funniest characters of the show (Butters/Cartman) are the types of the Writers.

    My interpretation.

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    No.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I agree that the guys who wrote this are Beta, and they're going to make their main characters Beta most likely too. I haven't seen this show in AGES but Gilly's list sounds pretty good from what I remember. I'd have to at least place the main group of four as Beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    No.
    Go on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Go on...
    See Slacker's post.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Matt Stone - IEI-Fe
    Trey Parker - SLE-Se

    Stan - SLE-Ti 6w7 sp/so
    Kyle - LSI-Ti 6w5 so/sp
    Cartman - SLE-Ti 8w7 sp/sx
    Kenny - IEI-Ni 4w5 sx/so

    Chef - ESE-Si 8w9 sx/so
    Mr. Garrison - ESE-Fe 7w8 sx/so
    Mr. Slave - SEI-Fe 6w7 sx/so
    Randy Marsh - IEE-Ne 6w7 so/sx
    Sharon Marsh - ESI-Fi 6w5 sp/sx
    Sheila Broflovski - LSE-Si 8w9 sp/sx
    Gerald Broflovski - EII-Fi 1w9 sp/so
    Liane Cartman - ESE-Fe 2w3 sx/so
    Butters - EII-Ne 9w1 so/sp
    Wendy - SEE-Fi 3w4 so/sx
    Bebe - SLE-Se 3w2 so/sp
    Here are my typings

    The thing is Kyle is modeled after Trey and Stan is modeled after Matt so it would make sense that they'd share the same personality type.

    Matt Stone - EIE-Ni
    Trey Parker - SLE-Ti

    Stan - SLE-Ti
    Kyle - EIE-Ni
    Cartman - LIE-Ni
    Kenny - IEI-Fe

    I generally agree with the rest of your typings though Gilly. I'm going to go with LIE for Cartman, he doesn't jive at all with the other main characters suggesting that he's not even in the same quadra and he's always making these grand schemes that I can't see an SLE doing, but rather a LIE doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Here are my typings
    Cartman . . . he doesn't jive at all with the other main characters suggesting that he's not even in the same quadra
    I think is quite apparent as well.

    I'd even go so far as to say he clearly aggravates Kyle's super-ego function(s).

    I can't agree with Kyle as anything other than an xxFJ either, since he's so predisposed to trying to modify the ethical behavior of his friends.

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    So this is the reason I stopped watching it after "first" episode.

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    I still like to watch it. *shrug* I must be impervious to the betaness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    I still like to watch it. *shrug* I must be impervious to the betaness.
    I found it boring plus humour was shite when I watched it.

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    People of any quadra can enjoy shows/music/art/whatever of any quadra.
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