Please help me type this person

[Kim]

Help!

S/he is very charming. When s/he meets someone for the first time, s/he is very polite and nice. S/he can adapt very well to different contexts, which helps her/him to communicate effectively with people from all different backgrounds. S/he can honestly charm anyone into oblivion because s/he readily steps onto the other person's turf and speaks the person's language. It is quite incredible. S/he is extremely protective of loved ones. If s/he is your friend, s/he will be your friend for life. Although s/he might not keep in touch, s/he will rush to your side s/hould you need her/him. If s/he runs into you somewhere, you will probably end up getting wasted and singing karaoke at a bar. S/he is very committed to her/his family (parents, extended family, siblings, etc.) and abides by family rules, but prefers to live far away from them. On the other hand, s/he loves to have her/his partner around. While s/he is very sociable, s/he needs downtime. S/he is very funny, especially when imitating people/accents. S/he jokes a lot. S/he can easily go into depression and has been through rough times. S/he only fully trusts her partner with these moods. S/he is not easily cheered up when in a depressive mood. However, when s/he is in a "normal" mood, s/he is very excitable, enthusiastic, and exuberant. S/he tends to abuse substances, but more or less in moderation. Her/his energy level vary greatly. Moods and energy levels are usually controlled by outside factors. S/he is very sensitive. S/he is very touched when people do nice things for her/him.

S/he is good at many different things and has worked in many professions. Sometimes very successfully, sometimes not (very unstable career history). S/he
can't stand people who whine about nothing but will support those who really need help. S/he readily shares material things and is not really attached to material possessions (except computer). S/he loves to play video games, especially when s/he can play with other people. This can turn into an obsession at times. When work needs to get done, s/he will get it done, but s/he does not work on things consistently. S/he does make sure to deliver quality work and can work very fast (which has saved her/him in the past). When s/he writes code and something is wrong, s/he will obsess over it until it's fixed.

S/he has rather firm beliefs, but is open to other viewpoints although s/he is not likely to change her/his mind. S/he is a liberal, pacifist, self-declared socialist, and cares about people a lot and wants to help them. S/he can manipulate people very well with her/his charme. They will probably realize that they are being manipulated, but they tend to find it charming and funny. S/he readily offers help, but might forget about it and must be reminded. S/he is not overly ambitious, but likes having money. S/he has no problem with supporting her/his partner and help the partner to be successful. S/he just wants to have a good life with a loved one. Beyond that, anything is possible.

S/he does not give a damn about her/his surroundings. Her/his place is cluttered, no decoration, etc. S/he is not materialistic at all. S/he loves good food.
S/he is concerned about nutrition and makes sure to eat mostly quality food. S/he is also concerned about the health of loved ones. S/he likes watching TV (Sci-Fi, romance, but not horror or drama when it's depressing). S/he does not like going to the movies because s/he does not like to have to sit still and not be able to get up and have a cigarette or get a drink. S/he loves Tolkien. S/he hates reality TV. S/he loves political (Colbert) and non-PC humor (Mind of Mencia, etc). Her/his humor can be blatantly racist, sexist, etc., but it's really funny. For some reason s/he gets away with it. S/he is truly hilarious.\


Do you have any ideas?

[olduser]

i don't know but s/he sounds great. I'd go with ExFx for starters and consider ESFp, ENFj, and ESFj in that order.

[Kim]

i don't know but s/he sounds great. I'd go with ExFx for starters and consider ESFp, ENFj, and ESFj in that order.

Can you elaborate on what you like about the description? That might actually help given that you are IxTp (or so I believe).

[olduser]

I like charming people. I especially like people who can talk to anyone and make friends this way. this is even further aided if the person making friends listens exceptionally well, and i think this is something you pointed out in your post. I love a girl like that. I prefer amusing girls who aren't pretensious about anything.

[Kim]

I like charming people. I especially like people who can talk to anyone and make friends this way. this is even further aided if the person making friends listens exceptionally well, and i think this is something you pointed out in your post. I love a girl like that. I prefer amusing girls who aren't pretensious about anything.

Yes, I can see you two getting along fabulously from the little I gather about you here. Her/his charme is so exceptional because there is nothing contrived about it. S/he is genuinely and naturally a charming person and people are so drawn to him/her, it's amazing. And s/he genuinely loves people as long as they don't intentionally hurt other people. In that case, s/he can become very confrontational. One time at a bar a guy was mean to his girlfriend and s/he started a conversation with him (they had never met before) and actually talked the guy into admitting that he was mean. That went well, but when they met again, things almost went out of hand because the guy was very disrespectful and hateful towards people and that infuriates the person to be typed.

[Creepy-bg]

absolutely everything except this bit... "S/he is concerned about nutrition and makes sure to eat mostly quality food."... is describing me.

[Mea]

Alpha/Delta extravert. Ethical? ENFp/ESFj.

Or maybe ESFp.

[Kim]

absolutely everything except this bit... "S/he is concerned about nutrition and makes sure to eat mostly quality food."... is describing me.

Perhaps I should add that s/he is also concerned about having cigarettes and weed close at hand.

Ha, you might be the same type! Ha!

[Kim]

Alpha/Delta extravert. Ethical? ENFp/ESFj.

Or maybe ESFp.

Yes, I think EF, too. I don't know about ESFj...I don't really know what they are like.

[eunice]

Si-ESFj?

[Creepy-bg]

could be ISFp too (duh )

[Mea]

could be ISFp too (duh )

True. ISFps can come across as extraverts sometimes.

[Expat]

I think ISFp makes sense.

[Gilly]

I think ISFp makes sense.

Agreed. I initially thought ESE, but hadn't heard "not easily cheered," "mood swings," "varying energy levels," etc. These all point to irrational, for sure, and nothing really says rational in particular.

[Kim]

ISFp

Uhm. I don't know anything about ISFps. Someone tell me about their annoying sides, please. Goat!!

[Creepy-bg]

ISFp

Uhm. I don't know anything about ISFps. Someone tell me about their annoying sides, please. Goat!!

I would if I had one

(let me think about how to respond)

[Kim]

I just read Rick's website and I am not sure if s/he really is that much about enjoyment and s/he is not really
light-hearted. For example, when s/he is at a party, s/he is very nice, but when s/he feels more comfortable,
s/he can get drawn into discussions and get a bit confrontational or s/he will crack jokes that some people
find offensive. S/he does not really care if people get offended.

However, s/he is certainly a peacemaker....

[Kim]

ISFp

Uhm. I don't know anything about ISFps. Someone tell me about their annoying sides, please. Goat!!

I would if I had one

(let me think about how to respond)

Thanks

Tell me about your PoLR, too!

[Mediator Kam]

I'm a isfp, what's going on?

annoying side?

I can be annoying when I talk WAY too much or not following social norms.

I am also a God-fearing socialist.

EDIT: Just read this again. I'm about 90% sure she's a ISFP. Sounds almost like me.

[Kim]

About ambition: S/he has worked as an executive and made a lot of money at some point. S/he has also worked as a salesperson and at bars and does not have a problem going from higher management to bartending if circumstances require this. S/he is very intelligent and capable of being very successful, but s/he, for her/himself, does not necessarily strive towards ultimate success. S/he would rather have a job
that is fun for her/him. S/he is starting such a job soon and is really excited. So she has already accomplished a lot and is not entirely without ambition, but s/he does not need success for self-worth. S/he would rather be able to say that s/he is a good person rather than a successful person. It does pose a problem for her/him that a lot of people, especially family, keep talking about her/his potential and where s/he should be at this point, blablabla. That pressures her/him.

[Mediator Kam]

About ambition: S/he has worked as an executive and made a lot of money at some point. S/he has also worked as a salesperson and at bars and does not have a problem going from higher management to bartending if circumstances require this. S/he is very intelligent and capable of being very successful, but s/he, for her/himself, does not necessarily strive towards ultimate success. S/he would rather have a job
that is fun for her/him. S/he is starting such a job soon and is really excited. So she has already accomplished a lot and is not entirely without ambition, but s/he does not need success for self-worth. S/he would rather be able to say that s/he is a good person rather than a successful person. It does pose a problem for her/him that a lot of people, especially family, keep talking about her/his potential and where s/he should be at this point, blablabla. That pressures her/him.

I like him/her. I think him/her would work great in an identity relationship.

[Creepy-bg]

I just read Rick's website and I am not sure if s/he really is that much about enjoyment and s/he is not really
light-hearted. For example, when s/he is at a party, s/he is very nice, but when s/he feels more comfortable,
s/he can get drawn into discussions and get a bit confrontational or s/he will crack jokes that some people
find offensive. S/he does not really care if people get offended.

However, s/he is certainly a peacemaker....

are you sure you aren't describing me!?!? this person sounds like my doppelganger

I do care if I offend people, when I do I immediately appolagize and fix it. But generally that doesn't happen, I know when and where it's appropriate to make what jokes. The problem comes when I'm overheard or something. I guess one of the downsides of ISFp (assuming I'm ISFp) is that I'm somewhat flighty in my opinions. I speak what I feel at the moment and that can easily change from moment to moment. It's not that I'm dishonest or incensear (sp?) though. It's just that it's so easy for me to see things from different angles and from the viewpoint of whoever I'm talking to. That thing about being confrontational sometimes when comfortable, very much me. If I don't know a person (or don't know them well) I wouldn't think of causing any sort of waves, with the people I'm closest to though I can easily speak my mind, even be antagonistic sometimes because I know they understand me, that I'm not starting a fight or talking down to them or whatever. It's also fun in a way being like that, I get a charge out of it.

That thing you said about the bar incident, I totally relate to that as well... It's very much my way when I find something someone does to be offensive or whatever to instead of directly confronting them about it, I come at them from the "side" and have a friendly conversation where I manipulate them into saying or concluding the point I would have confronted them with.

[Kim]

Let me rephrase that real quick:

S/he does not care if people are offended by her/his humor in terms of it being dirty/non-pc.
S/he is very good at gauging how far s/he can go. S/he would never crack jokes at the expense of people
present. Does this make sense?

[Mediator Kam]

I come at them from the "side" and have a friendly conversation where I manipulate them into saying or concluding the point I would have confronted them with.

I do that.

[Creepy-bg]

Let me rephrase that real quick:

S/he does not care if people are offended by her/his humor in terms of it being dirty/non-pc.
S/he is very good at gauging how far s/he can go. S/he would never crack jokes at the expense of people
present. Does this make sense?

exactly... but s/he will tease friends and people they are comfortable with correct?

[Mediator Kam]

Let me rephrase that real quick:

S/he does not care if people are offended by her/his humor in terms of it being dirty/non-pc.
S/he is very good at gauging how far s/he can go. S/he would never crack jokes at the expense of people
present. Does this make sense?

Yes, I know my limits in jokes. If I go too far, I apologize until I know I have been forgiven.

[Kim]

That thing you said about the bar incident, I totally relate to that as well... It's very much my way when I find something someone does to be offensive or whatever to instead of directly confronting them about it, I come at them from the "side" and have a friendly conversation where I manipulate them into saying or concluding the point I would have confronted them with.

Yes, that is exactly what s/he does. And because s/he can speak other people's language so well, s/he is almost always successful. It is a blast to listen to him/her talk to a) her/his new boss, b) her/his biker buddy, c) her/his mom.

[Kim]

Let me rephrase that real quick:

S/he does not care if people are offended by her/his humor in terms of it being dirty/non-pc.
S/he is very good at gauging how far s/he can go. S/he would never crack jokes at the expense of people
present. Does this make sense?

exactly... but s/he will tease friends and people they are comfortable with correct?

Haha, yes. With no mercy and everyone finds it hilarious. S/he is soooo good at being offensive without offending.

[Kim]

Let me rephrase that real quick:

S/he does not care if people are offended by her/his humor in terms of it being dirty/non-pc.
S/he is very good at gauging how far s/he can go. S/he would never crack jokes at the expense of people
present. Does this make sense?

Yes, I know my limits in jokes. If I go too far, I apologize until I know I have been forgiven.

And people forgive easily?

[Kim]

double

[Creepy-bg]

I come at them from the "side" and have a friendly conversation where I manipulate them into saying or concluding the point I would have confronted them with.

I do that.

I would say that could be one of the negatives of ISFps... we aren't very direct with things, and people who appreciate that sort of approach could get annoyed. Get us pissed though, and whoa daddy, we'll let loose on you... not just giving you the harsh truth but we'll throw in emotional manipulation and whatever else it takes to make you feel as shitty as we feel.

[eunice]

ISFp

Uhm. I don't know anything about ISFps. Someone tell me about their annoying sides, please. Goat!!

I would if I had one

(let me think about how to respond)

The only negative quality about ISFps is that they aren't as perfect as Te-ESTjs.

[Mediator Kam]

I come at them from the "side" and have a friendly conversation where I manipulate them into saying or concluding the point I would have confronted them with.

I do that.

I would say that could be one of the negatives of ISFps... we aren't very direct with things, and people who appreciate that sort of approach could get annoyed. Get us pissed though, and whoa daddy, we'll let loose on you... not just giving you the harsh truth but we'll throw in emotional manipulation and whatever else it takes to make you feel as shitty as we feel.

What's that saying, Misery loves company?

I could hang that outside my door.

The only negative quality about ISFps is that they aren't as perfect as Te-ESTjs.

omg i met a estj girl. She was SO forward in her advances. Made me feel uncomfortable on a grand scale.

[Creepy-bg]

Let me rephrase that real quick:

S/he does not care if people are offended by her/his humor in terms of it being dirty/non-pc.
S/he is very good at gauging how far s/he can go. S/he would never crack jokes at the expense of people
present. Does this make sense?

Yes, I know my limits in jokes. If I go too far, I apologize until I know I have been forgiven.

And people forgive easily?

yes absolutely... because I'm sincere in my apology. Not to say it won't happen again after the incident with somebody else, but with that person their limits and such are forever marked down in the book in my head and I'm very careful to respect them, even watch out and guard them against others who might make the same mistakes.

[implied]

she sounds a ton like one of my best friends who is either INFp or ISFp. some Fp. i don't know her type but she's seriously charming like that.

[Mediator Kam]

Let me rephrase that real quick:

S/he does not care if people are offended by her/his humor in terms of it being dirty/non-pc.
S/he is very good at gauging how far s/he can go. S/he would never crack jokes at the expense of people
present. Does this make sense?

Yes, I know my limits in jokes. If I go too far, I apologize until I know I have been forgiven.

And people forgive easily?

yes absolutely... because I'm sincere in my apology. Not to say it won't happen again after the incident with somebody else, but with that person their limits and such are forever marked down in the book in my head and I'm very careful to respect them, even watch out and guard them against others who might make the same mistakes.

Yeah, they do forgive me, no one I know has ever held a grudge on me, because people say I'm a sweet talker.

[Creepy-bg]

About ambition: S/he has worked as an executive and made a lot of money at some point. S/he has also worked as a salesperson and at bars and does not have a problem going from higher management to bartending if circumstances require this. S/he is very intelligent and capable of being very successful, but s/he, for her/himself, does not necessarily strive towards ultimate success. S/he would rather have a job
that is fun for her/him. S/he is starting such a job soon and is really excited. So she has already accomplished a lot and is not entirely without ambition, but s/he does not need success for self-worth. S/he would rather be able to say that s/he is a good person rather than a successful person. It does pose a problem for her/him that a lot of people, especially family, keep talking about her/his potential and where s/he should be at this point, blablabla. That pressures her/him.

seriously! stop talking about me!

[Mediator Kam]

About ambition: S/he has worked as an executive and made a lot of money at some point. S/he has also worked as a salesperson and at bars and does not have a problem going from higher management to bartending if circumstances require this. S/he is very intelligent and capable of being very successful, but s/he, for her/himself, does not necessarily strive towards ultimate success. S/he would rather have a job
that is fun for her/him. S/he is starting such a job soon and is really excited. So she has already accomplished a lot and is not entirely without ambition, but s/he does not need success for self-worth. S/he would rather be able to say that s/he is a good person rather than a successful person. It does pose a problem for her/him that a lot of people, especially family, keep talking about her/his potential and where s/he should be at this point, blablabla. That pressures her/him.

seriously! stop talking about me!

I think it's done. Two ISFP/SEI have confirmed it.

[Kim]

Here is more:

When things need to get resolved or finished, s/he kicks into this weird professional mode and gets it all done.
Then s/he happily goes back to fun things. S/he is bad about keeping in touch with people, but they never cease to
love her/him. In a partner, she appreciates someone who is on top of things and reminds her/him of things that need to be done.
S/he likes to have the pleasure created for him/her (clean place, food, etc.), but will do it to take a load of her/his
partner. S/he is very loving and appreciates her partner very much (does not take him/her for granted).

What about you guys? What would you like/not like in a partner?

[Mediator Kam]

Here is more:

When things need to get resolved or finished, s/he kicks into this weird professional mode and gets it all done.
Then s/he happily goes back to fun things. S/he is bad about keeping in touch with people, but they never cease to
love her/him. In a partner, she appreciates someone who is on top of things and reminds her/him of things that need to be done.
S/he likes to have the pleasure created for him/her (clean place, food, etc.), but will do it to take a load of her/his
partner. S/he is very loving and appreciates her partner very much (does not take him/her for granted).

What about you guys? What would you like/not like in a partner?

In a partner, I want someone who would love me for who I am, who would just sit down and we would just hug and smile at each other.

Someone who would kinda guide my life, because I am kinda unsure about what the best course of action is. Someone who would be imperfect, but perfect too.

A person who would tell me they loved me.