I agree it's not necessarily true all ESTjs are this way, but I like to fucking cuss out ESTjs for this anyway .. duno, it's sort of fun. B&D, you make some good points. This has me rethinking the type of kurt cobain, who I previously thought was INFj. I will have to look at it more closely .. B&D, what do you think kurt cobains type is, INFj or INFp?