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    republican presidential candidate. former mayor of new york city.

    i certainly have my ideas on his type.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG_4RTvlnkg[/youtube]

    (immediately post 9/11 on letterman)

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5BdQksrkQw[/youtube]

    (talking about sports in south carolina campaign)

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAZQwWifzt8[/youtube]

    (on charlie rose in 1994)

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eve5-xHDU7M[/youtube]

    (on charlie rose in 2002, discussing the aftermath of 9/11)





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    for some reason he reminds me of the dad from that 70's show
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    for some reason he reminds me of the dad from that 70's show
    Ah, that one. Indeed.

    (J/K, I just had to say that!
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    Let's see... Perhaps an extravert?
    It is easier for the eye of a camel to pass through a rich man than for a needle to enter the kingdom of heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick
    Let's see... Perhaps an extravert?
    do you have any more specific ideas?

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    ESTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe
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    interesting. why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Rick
    Let's see... Perhaps an extravert?
    do you have any more specific ideas?
    He reminds me both of ESEs and LSEs, but I can't rule out EIE either. That's all I can say so far based on a look at those videos.
    It is easier for the eye of a camel to pass through a rich man than for a needle to enter the kingdom of heaven.

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    ENFj
    whenever the dog and i see each other we both stop where we are. we regard each other with a mixture of sadness and suspicion and then we feign indifference.

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    interesting. i haven't looked extensively at any of the videos that i posted, but i have been observing him. i didn't pay much attention to him at all when he was the mayor; i didn't care very much about politics at that time.


    i had the impression that he was SEE (maybe SLE). he's well known for characteristics like his confidence and aggressiveness (largely concerned with political departments). it is not uncommon for him to say things like "we have to get over our fears and just do it" in reference to things like the war in iraq. he's running on the sort of campaign that he successfully fought crime in new york, managed to keep new york from falling into the sea after 9/11, and will be the "toughest" candidate on battling terrorism.

    all of this is perhaps pretty superficial, but i also notice that he has a fairly direct Se-ish approach. i don't know.

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    this may also be mundane, but his motivational discourse reminds me of that of herm edwards, a football coach who i think was SEE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe
    ESTj.
    xxTp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    It's all just bravado and political manuevering.
    that's certainly possible. i don't know the extent to which that might mask his real personality.

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    Niffweed, is this a person you could see yourself being drawn to? Why? (if you don't mind me asking)
    It is easier for the eye of a camel to pass through a rich man than for a needle to enter the kingdom of heaven.

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    i don't know. i'm certainly not basing my analysis on any kind of effect of duality.


    the one thing i think i can sort of affirm on this is that i think he offers a sort of confidence in certain moral dilemmas which i might tend to confuse. the example that i have in mind is something that i read recently, specifically, this:

    Ever the prosecutor, he retains a talent for explaining complex concepts, flipping his round spectacles on and off his face for emphasis and rubbing his forehead as if deep in thought. He has a penchant for talking to voters as if he were their tough-love therapist, frequently invoking words like “reality” and “denial.” Vowing to end illegal immigration during one town-hall meeting in Iowa, Giuliani told the crowd, “Every other country does it, and we can do it.” Then he clutched his heart and spoke softly. “It’s O.K. to do it.” You could almost hear a collective sigh among the Iowans, who didn’t consider themselves bigots just because they wanted to seal the borders, and who now felt validated by America’s mayor.

    this is exactly the sort of moral dilemma which i might have. illegal immigration in itself is a confusing topic morally. his confidence and eloquence about what is right on issue such as this might be some kind of a draw.


    on the other hand, there are plenty of other reasons why i think he's nuts.

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