Is Charlie Sheen an ENTj?
Charlie Sheen
Is Charlie Sheen an ENTj?
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Charlie Sheen
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
He reminds me of Conan O Brien.
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wow, that was fast
Hah, they do have some similarities in looks, never occured to me... but they are still kinda different, I don't know...He reminds me of Conan O Brien.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I think the difference is that Sheen's eye's strike me as sensor eyes, while Conan's strikes me as intuitive.wow, that was fast
Hah, they do have some similarities in looks, never occured to me... but they are still kinda different, I don't know...He reminds me of Conan O Brien.
Sheen: ESTp I think, but possibility for ENTp.
Yeah, I thought Sheen's eyes were different, too. Not necesseraly sensory thou. 'Nother difference, Conan's beard looks somewhat stiffer and squarelike and his mouth hanging loose as opposed to Sheen's which looks more controlled.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
ENTp is what I had in mind. I 'm curious what others think...
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I agree with
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Lol. Rocky's rule of thumb works again. Perhaps Conan is ENTp tooI agree with
Conan has some kind ofproblem and seems alpha or beta to me. ENTp or ENFj? Of course he could be ESTp but ENTp or ENFj is my guess. I'm not 100% sure though. I have thought about this when I watch his show.
Another note I should put in here is that I think Sheen's humour comes across incredibly slapstick beta, Scary Movie 3, Hotshots????
Why adopt expat's view so unquestioningly?Lol. Rocky's rule of thumb works again. Perhaps Conan is ENTp too
I agree. I don't know that much about Charlie Sheen, and even in VI I could see ESTp too.Why adopt expat's view so unquestioningly?Lol. Rocky's rule of thumb works again. Perhaps Conan is ENTp too
He is so INFj, it's not funny.
I thought I said ROCKY'S rule of thumbWhy adopt expat's view so unquestioningly?Lol. Rocky's rule of thumb works again. Perhaps Conan is ENTp tooThe rule that 95% of actors and entertainers are ENTps. And I wasn't adopting any view. I was expressing my amusement about the fact that such a dumb and trivial rule (more than once) produces comparable outcome to what people who are known to be good typers can come up with. Secondly I applied this rule to Conan and expressed, in a form which didn't imply any certainty, my amusement if he indeed is typed to be ENTp too. Just for the record I haven't yet adopted a fixed view about either person's type but the guesses made for them could very well be close to the truth.
Yes your right. 2+2=5.I thought I said ROCKY'S rule of thumbWhy adopt expat's view so unquestioningly?Lol. Rocky's rule of thumb works again. Perhaps Conan is ENTp too
i am not processing in a manner which is transmitable in the standard forms, disregard.
I agree. But I would also consider ENTj as a possibility.Conan has some kind of
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I have a hard time seeing Sheen as an ESTp for some reason. He gives off some kind of
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
ESTp's dont necessarily have weakI have a hard time seeing Sheen as an ESTp for some reason. He gives off some kind of
Well yeah, but he doesn't seem to have strong Si either (to me), but rather an accepting type of Si...ESTp's dont necessarily have weakI have a hard time seeing Sheen as an ESTp for some reason. He gives off some kind of
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
gah he looks (expression-wise) like wayne coyne of the flaming lips. they're of the same socionics ilk, i am pretty sure now.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
Wayne Coyne looks sort of ESFp-ish to me. And I don't see the similarities.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
i think it's the tough but probably not mean sort of sneer that makes me think of coyne.
coyne looks /something/ gamma to me, too. ESFp probably does make the most sense.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
Gotta be ESxP
Charlie Sheen-chance of a lifetime.
Heres your chance to dualize and be his intern if you are his tiger blooded dual!
Type time.
Expat:ILE or SLE (same initial impressions XLE)
Labcoat has him as LSE
Others: SLI,
SEE
SLI imo
I don't get the SLI thing. I mean he likes doing his pleasurable activites but he seems to have a Fi polr to me. He also shows quite a bit of impulsive energy charicteristic of an EP type.
He comes off extremely SLE to me. ILE seems very unlikely.
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
ew. I don't want Charlie Sheen as my dual.
But if we're going off his recent behavior, unless we're going to use the "mental illness obscures type beyond recognition" route, he's DEFINITELY not SLI. No way in hell that crazy motherfucker is IP temperament.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...
I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.
Why SLE over ILE crispy?
My own observations: He does seem more physically confident, powerful, less dorky spaciness that
http://www.socioniko.net/en/1.1.types/fl.html This does seem to fit him pretty well. If ILE is the guy whos supervised by EII as if to save and protect them from mistakes, Charlie Sheen goes full scumbag to them. And you don't go full scumbag.
http://www.socioniko.net/en/1.1.types/il.html
Still in real life....SEE is still a possibility. http://www.socioniko.net/en/1.1.types/fr.html
http://www.socioniko.net/en/1.1.types/sp.html SLI doesn't fit very well here. He's so high energy. This is totally not right. He doesn't care about methods as far as I know, hes much more result over process.
I'm combing the forum to try and find justifications for istp. Off the top of my head you could say he doesn't really give a crap about beta Ni and just wants to party and make money. Points back to ILE or SLI of course.
I think that he's a very unhealthy and douchey Beta NF, lol.
I really can't stand Charlie Sheen and he grosses me out, but i'm gonna have to say I do think he's SLI. I actually do think in this case mental illness may be obscuring things quite a bit--I think he is manic currently, which does give someone a lot of extra energy. He is also being defensive these days which could bring out his Id. I also suspect that he's been without a dual for too long.
But his behavior does seem more Fe-POLR than Fi-POLR. His manner of speaking is this way as well. His expressionless face, etc. He does seem very Si-focused to me as well.
If he is SLI, I would say Te-SLI just based on VI.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
yeah that too.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
SLE looks both like Christopher Reeve and Clint Eastwood has the Marlon Brando stair of the Se...
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Fame is empowering. My mistake was that I thought I would instinctively know how to handle it. But there's no manual, no training course.
Charlie Sheen
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I just don't want to live like I used to. And at some point, I'm going to put a gag order on myself in terms of talking about the past. I've got to slam the door and deal with the present and the future.
Charlie Sheen
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I still don't have all the answers. I'm more interested in what I can do next than what I did last.
Charlie Sheen
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No demonstration of Ni Role.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Clint Eastwood is Te-SLI. IIRC Christopher Reeve is also delta ST. I dont see ANY resemblance to Marlon Brando.
And Sheen's eyes actually look Si/Ne to me, and Fi-valuing. True I see a resemblance to Clint Eastwood. (but again, he's SLI).
Fe-POLR as hell.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Exactly. If he were Se-dominant he WOULD know how to handle it. Fame is empowering to anyone.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Nope not necessarily, being impulsive he would just get into one thing after another ignoring his inner sensations about these things. There's no Si anywhere in him; no comments about how he feels about things, about anything.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
You completely dont' understand how weak and unvalued functions work. If he shows that he doesnt' value Ni, then he probably doesn't value Ni. This "role function is super strong" thing is something you've come up with to try to convince people you're EII.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
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