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    Default Need help figuring out my type ...

    Not sure what to write about myself, but I wrote this in my personal blog a few months back ... Just reading this, what type do I sound like?

    Now, I don't believe in that survival of the fittest bullshit; it is an excuse and a justification to runover others who might actually be better off than you. There have been many ways that society has supported people and many ways by which society has screwed people. For example, the act of marriage ... that is an aspect of society that has been maintained for the benefit of people; it is an assertive method to legally back and establish a home for children and a vehicle for self-support. On the other hand, there are many ways by which society lies to you and attempts to control you through a means of subjugation.

    Credit cards, most interest loans, media, and negitive prescription eyeglasses are a part of that lie. They attempt to weaken your suspecibilty to challenge the fact that they intend to blind you, take what you own, and to enslave you for another's benefit. Frankly, I have no repect for these institutions. However, if you ever get involved by getting into debt, listening to modern media, or allow yourself to become reliant upon a false means of support you are going to have to work your butt off to get back ahead. That is if you are awake enough.

    Heck, look how many people eat at McDonald ... bunch of cattle ... I bet they don't even realize the moment they step in they have lost total control of themselves. Apparently, people fail to realize that the fact that there are 100s of items on the menu does not mean that they have the right to choose, meerly this is the illusion of choice. It doesn't matter what you buy, it will translate into money and go into some collective bank account somewhere. In the mean time, people are screwing up their health eating sugar laden and intentionally addictive foods ment to bring you back day by day and they are taught to like that every step of the way. It really isn't any different when you take many of these other money traps such as Walmart into consideration; they all use a similar scheme to make money, some of them are just better at doing it than others.

    Credit cards, guess what ... you don't need them; nobody needs them. People are brainwashed into thinking they need something called a credit rating by a means of societal reinforcement that is totally imaginary. My advice is to just not buy anything you don't have the total cash for, and if that means saving up for years then do so; it is really the only way to get rich if that is in your interest/ Couple that with building credit by paying back exactly what you owe right when you buy something. That way, you are using the credit card company to your advantage. You might want to keep track of what you buym though. Credit card compnaies do not like this and they will sometimes make up excuses to illegially cancel your credit card. Be persistent if this ever happens to you and don't let them get away with lying, they want to cheat you.

    Eyeglasses go by a similar line; the honest truth is that most optomotrist are living a silent lie of which that they are not often made aware. If you have a child that has blurry vision, do not take them to get negitive lens eyeglasses; take them to a specialist that knows eye relaxation techniques and give them a plus lens prescription. Nearsightedness is actually partially caused by wearing negitive glasses because of several reasons: one, you are subjugating your eyes to a tool: two, they support the strain that is causing blurry vision: three, they make vision worse, meaning that you must continue to get stronger leneses year by year until you are cursed to pay for new glassers and doctor check-ups for the rest of your natural life! This can be prevented at an early age using the techniques I already described, most people don't know that.
    The criminal act in this is that there are many opromotrist who know the truth about eyeglasses and intentionally destroy a persons eyesight so they will always have their cash cow. If you don't think that is a sad fact of reality about the intentions of some people, you are living in denial.

    Some people believe in karma, some people believe in a tao, some people believe in a fate or destiny, and there or others that can shape their own destiny. The only thing of these that I can say is true is that what you put in, you are going to get back. If you are active, friendly, and close to people, they will be receptive to you ... if you are cold, distant, and unfriendly people will be the same to you and maybe even act against you; they don't need a just cause, your attitude will be their attitude and their own mindly justification.

    If you have ever heard the catch phrase "it isn't what you know, it is who you know" it is true. Life is built around trust and your own ability to relate to people and to look after others; they'll look after you as well.

    Mostly, this is my fight not to be a total loser at life. I'm going to suceed at all cost; I have the will to do it and I have the means to do it. But, one ingredient is lacking in my life, and that is the basic necessity of friendship. That is the one thing that has eluded me in my life ... I am still learning ... hopefully it will not be long till I have fulfilled that as well I hope.
    Man, I got some really weird neighbors ... to one side of me I got some rich african guy who is always playing this really loud tribal music, and the other side of me I got this other african guy who is always singing to either jamaican or spiritual music really loud, and sometimes I can even hear him and his music while he is in the shower.

    While they both might be totally strange, I'd say they were pretty harmless ... except for that time one of them decided to throw a party and got these bongos out and started banging them at like 3 freaking am. Other than that one instance, I can tolerate them for the most part.

    Great news also, I finally found myself a copy of one of my most favorite 80s flicks that you can't find almost anywhere anymore. Man, I wish I could go back to the 80s when things were still sort of simple and just stay there; except I am still stuck in the 90s , and it isn't the 90s anymore. I've tried to sort of moderninze a little, but it is like I am getting old and considering I am 24 that is real sad.

    Even sadder is that almost all of the girls my age are starting to slightly lose their feminity, and all of the youger girls 18 - 20 are starting to look at me as more of a father figure or atleast older male; I mean, they are actually calling me sir and showing some respect. I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but it isn't something I am quite use to yet from that age group when they saw me as more of a friend only a year ago. And some of the girls I chilled with 4 or 5 years ago are starting to lose that attractive edge that they had now that they are older. Heck, this one girl I once hit it off with a few years back I saw just the other day with this really really passive guy, and she has dated some real jerks in her lifetime. Almost made me want to puke, possibly two or three times.

    Although, it makes me glad I am one of those inbetween guys that really isn't either jerky or nice all the time, and I've known girls that have appreciated that in me. Like for example, this girl I was seeing for a while. I honestly think that was one of the initial reasons there was an attraction. That, and the fact that we had complementary personalities. Shame she had to graduate and get a job somewhere out of state before I could get myself set; I would have liked to taken that further possibly.

    Well, atleast there is this new girl I have been seeing off and on with sky-high interest. I havn't totally figured her personality out yet, but we seem to have alot in common so far. I am taking this one slow, she's sort of shy and maybe has some superficialities. I'm not placing my expectations any higher than the obvious, makes me wary.

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    Don't quote me on this, but you sound very, very, very, very, VERY ENTp.
    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    Hmmm, maybe I should quote some more stuff ...

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    Ok, here is something else I wrote ...

    The friends first myth ...

    I am sure that everyone has probably heard some variation of the "friends-first" rule, possibly from parents, or peers, or councilors, or pastors, or educators, etc. You have probably been told that it is best to be friends with the opposite sex and not attempt to pursue any sort of relationship with them, or to have sex, or to do anything that would stain your satin white reputation for the sake of appearances. Some people look at the "Friend's-first" rule and talk wonders about it, while other
    despise and hate it. Why is this? You would think that being friends with someone would be a good thing, and yes, it is a good thing ... But, with all things there exist problems ... The way that one person views the world may not be the same view as another persons nor do people have the same life experiences, in the same way the "friend's-first" rule has many of these same problems in that it has not worked for everyone nor will it ever, though technically it should. Let's explore some of those reasons ...

    Probably one of the most severest flaws with the friendship philosophy comes from the fact that there seems to be little way to tell the difference between "friendship rejection" and "friendship acception." In other words, when someone of the opposite sex says “let’s be [just] friends" he/she could be saying "I like you, but let's take it slow" or "I think you are a loser and I think this other person is way hotter than you." Both meanings are said in the same exact tone, and the same exact frequency, and the same exact way. In the former a person has been given a chance that can lead to a relationship and sex, but the latter equates to
    rejection and is simply a total waste of time. While this remains a source of confusion, people who have been "friendship accepted"
    tend to push the "friends-first" philosophy more than their "friendship rejection" countertypes, and for good and obvious reasons. This is why the "friends-first" Philosophy has also been responsible for bloating the ranks of the numerously abundant population of jerk ... The irony in this respect was that when it comes to many men who act like total jerks in relationships, they were actually once rather nice; however, from being constantly burned by the "friend's first" philosophy, not taking advantage of situations when they arise, and by constantly running into manipulative "**** teasing attention ******," and girls who see them as "big bother types," this causes them to resent many of their otherwise good qualities. Furthermore, women have a tenacious habit to attempt to soften the blow of rejection by bringing up the point that a certain guy is "sweet" or "nice" or by stating some of their otherwise good qualities back to them in the process. What women do not realize is that by doing this they unwittingly cause these men to make a logic connection between being nice, rejection, friendship, and this actually serves nothing more than to spoil
    them for any future relationships they could enjoy. All in all, the men who have been "victimized" in this way eventually learn to resort to traits reserved for typical "A" type personalities, either from the impending inexperience or the fear of intimacy caused from these rejections, thus causing the typical jerk like traits that have been so popularized and often encouraged by men who have these same problems. Also, the "Friend's first" philosophy also exist as a balance of control for females; when men allow women that are not related to them and are not acquaintances to be non-sexual friends with them they are allowing them to have control in all interactions on the relationship level they exist upon. On the flip side, men who receive unbiased sex from women are the ones that maintain control on the relationship level should that ever happen.

    One of the worst problems with "friends-first " has to do with that part of being a mature and healthy individual comes from the ability to form friendships friends with people in general regardless of gender ... Unfortunately,[as has been previously stated,] people who have been rejected with friendship tend to not develop the necessary social skills that a mature individual needs to be a good husband/wife and to raise children ... Virtually, they themselves remain children and conceptually have not progressed past the age of 12 from their stunted outlook. Because of this you will find that many of these people find ways to sleep around, not only to fulfill their own basic needs, but as an attempt to compensate for the fact that they have not been given or allowed the
    opportunity to grow and mature for numerous and varied reasons. When relationships do occur with these people they are often noticeably and exceptionally one-sided, where one person plays the role of a[n overly controlling] parent to another who seeks a parent or rules in general. In stark contrast mature individuals with were able to maintain relationships with people of the opposite sex learn to replace their own parents by changing their own views and outlooks and controlling themselves from an
    internal standpoint, where people who have been "friendship rejected" look for ways to control others or to be controlled by others
    from an external standpoint.

    I suppose being Friends with the opposite sex is not such a bad thing when you aren’t constantly having your man or womanhood insulted, or are not afraid of the possibility of that happening, and can handle it when it does happen. In the long-run friendship is always the best alternative especially for those who have been able to maintain relationships. But for those who haven’t, well, they'll probably just give you the finger...

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    Clearly ENTp ...

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    wait, I've read that before... that's someone on this forum....
    I'm looking in someone's direction.

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    Why don't you want just to make a test or tests on the type? I have translated a couple of short tests: Test for your type and test redone. It's always easier if you have some sort of result than to start from a scratch.


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    Haha...so weird. My ENTp friend was talking to me just a few days ago, Saturday in fact, about how he was suspicous of eyeglasses.

    It would not surprise me at all if you were ENTp. Actually, if I was a reader of your blog I probably would have commented to what you said because I found it to be very interesting. Especially the part about debt/credit cards/media as I've had similar thoughts.

    Edit: Perhaps I should clarify a little about the previous paragraph. I guess it could sound like I was suggesting that you were ISFp, not the case.
    ISFp, SiFe, , or SEI....whatever we're calling ourselves these days.

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    Hi and welcome .

    Herzenfaust

    I would think similar with what you post. I also think it's funny what you said.
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    Entp - eeeee.

    Welcome to the club!!!

    I can relate to your post . . . BTW, It's not who you are, it's what you wear. :wink:
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    Guess I am ENTp, then ...

    I noticed that there are alot of ISFps here who seem to say that I think like them a little bit. Do you think that it is totally possible that the reason that ISFps and ENTps think so much alike is because they are in the Alpha Quandra? I mean, what are the chances that I could be an ISFp or INFp with me thinking the way that I do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzenfaust
    Guess I am ENTp, then ...

    I noticed that there are alot of ISFps here who seem to say that I think like them a little bit. Do you think that it is totally possible that the reason that ISFps and ENTps think so much alike is because they are in the Alpha Quandra? I mean, what are the chances that I could be an ISFp or INFp with me thinking the way that I do?
    By the way you wrote what you wrote, I don't think you're at all ISFp. An ISFp would have softened things up smoothed out the rough edges that might have sounded a little harsh. Perhaps even made excuses for why they think the way they do. Also, I don't think an ISFp would necessarily be so bold with their opinions. When I express opinions, which I don't too often, it's usually something very general and something I think most people wouldn't disagree with. You pointed out specific things like eyeglasses, McDonalds, credit cards and loans, where I probably would have talked about these things in a general collective way, not pointing out specifics. When you point out specifics people will be more likely to criticize what you say, I can't stand to be criticized and will at times take things back and apologize after being criticized...even if I still believed what I said, just to keep the peace.

    I guess it could very well be the Alpha Quadra. I've noticed that with the members of the Alpha Quadra I know in real life, we have a similar "code of ethics", values or "mind set" I guess you could call it. Particularly with this one ENTp, I know. We can talk and talk and talk and talk and it seems like we can talk about an endless amount of things and neither of us gets bored with the conversation.

    It's similar with the ESFj I know, but not quite the same. We don't really spend a lot of time together because both of us have an extensive group of friends and don't have time to spend one-on-one very often. But when we do talk I feel like I can really talk to her and she sincerely listens and loves to add input and be supportive. With her it's much more emotional.

    With the ENTp we have an endless amount of things we talk about. We can talk about almost anything, like hopes and dreams, various interests, life, all kinds of things. But when it starts getting toward emotional territory he'll dance around it or change the subject.

    Also with both the ESFj and ENTp we can just stop talking for a while and no one feels like they need to fill the silence. Eventually one of the other of us will bring something up and we'll start talking again but there's no pressure to keep things going...it's relaxing being with them. Though the connection is much stronger with the ENTp.

    Unfortuantely I don't know of any INTj's in my social group, so I can't really compare how I relate with them. I think there may have been one for a while but he disappeared before too long.

    Anyway, I related to the first blog in your first post the most. I have similar ideas along those lines it seems. Why, I can't say exactly, perhaps it is the quadra, but maybe it's just that we've seen though some of the deceptions of society. But what I've noticed about the Alpha Quadra members I'm in contact with in real life is that they seem to have some kind of innocence. Like a loyalty and genuineness about them. I know I can count on my ESFj and ENTp friends for anything and they know I'd do the same for them. Of course I don't know if this is an Alpha trait or if members of other quadras feel the same about other members of their own quadra. At any rate, this is how I feel about the members of the Alpha Quadra.
    ISFp, SiFe, , or SEI....whatever we're calling ourselves these days.

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    A new acquaintance I've met is either an INTj, I think. Her goal in life is to understands thing in areas that she cares like psychology. She's a bit lost in life, she has no idea what she wants, but like I said before, she wants to find her niche. She's not really too ambitious in that she just needs to make sure she earns enough to make ends meet. She's a bit of a loner, too.

    She's an "I", that should make her an INTj, if she belongs to the Alpha Quadra and is an "N". So what do you think?

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    yes, the feel of the alpha is one of wonder or innocence, and then at the lower order a prism of like naivete and stuff

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    Herzenfaust. I don't think your an ISFP either just I would agree what you said but just as Elizabeth said and ISFP would of soften it up, actually I might not even talk about subjects of credit cards very much or even put it that way. I've only meet ENTP's online with other forums. I haven't been able to get in a conversation with them yet. With INTJ's we can keep talking for along time also if were both in the mood for it. Or just sit here siliently for a long time.
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    Herzenfaust is RMCNEW

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