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    ESE:

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    LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP



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    I thought Flo was IEE. mehbeh.

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    Conan O'Brien - ILE-Ti sp/so
    and Jordan Schlansky - LII-Ti so/sp
    Julie - LSE




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    Kevin Richardson - ILE-Ti
    opps, sorry, not the lion man, thanks @aisa for letting me know! i got confused by their names

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    Ian Purkayastha, cool-guy truffle dealer
    SEI probs?

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    ILE-Ti & SEI-Fe russian dual couple - no happy ending here, his parents severely beat her up being against him proposing to her and starting a family
    (in russian - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4tZAY0-EmE)




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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Kevin Richardson - ILE-Ti
    opps, sorry, not the lion man, thanks @aisa for letting me know! i got confused by their names

    SLI
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

    To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.

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    Stuttering John...ILE 7w6 sp/sx



    Ted Nugent...ILE 8w7 so/sp


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    irene pepperberg ILE

    google her, i don't feel like adding youtube vids to this thread that took my computer all century to load

    beyond that, i don't need to explain why. i mean, why would such a thing ever be required/needed of anyone here?

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    SEI maybs

    M.I.A.


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    Also: Greta Gerwig (SEI)


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    ENTp ISFp duality (?) in a minimalist romantic drama aww
    With cute-guy-heartthrob Ethan Hawke being ENTp and the sweet-beautiful Julie Delpy being ISFp. From the Sunrise, Sunset, Midnight set of movies by Richard Linklater.

    The trailer for the first movie in the set:

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    Can't get more alpha than this:

    LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP



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    Ted Kacynski....LII 5w6 so/sp



    He claims that scientific research is a surrogate activity for scientists, and that for this reason "science marches on blindly, without regard to the real welfare of the human race or to any other standard, obedient only to the psychological needs of the scientists and of the government officials and corporation executives who provide the funds for research."
    He is known for his wide-ranging social critiques, which opposed industrialization and modern technology while advancing a nature-centered form of anarchism.
    "You just can't imagine how upset I was. It was from that point on I decided that, rather than trying to acquire further wilderness skills, I would work on getting back at the system. Revenge."
    He soon came to the conclusion that more violent methods would be the only solution to what he saw as the problem of industrial civilization.
    He performed isolated acts of sabotage and initially targeted the developments near his cabin.
    In another letter to The New York Times Kaczynski claimed that FC "blew up Thomas Mosser because [...] Burston-Marsteller [sic] helped Exxon clean up its public image after the Exxon Valdez incident" and, more importantly, because "its business is the development of techniques for manipulating people's attitudes."
    Regarding his switch from being a reformer of the system to developing a means of taking it down, he said:

    I don't think it can be done. In part because of the human tendency, for most people, there are exceptions, to take the path of least resistance. They'll take the easy way out, and giving up your car, your television set, your electricity, is not the path of least resistance for most people. As I see it, I don't think there is any controlled or planned way in which we can dismantle the industrial system. I think that the only way we will get rid of it is if it breaks down and collapses ... The big problem is that people don't believe a revolution is possible, and it is not possible precisely because they do not believe it is possible. To a large extent I think the eco-anarchist movement is accomplishing a great deal, but I think they could do it better... The real revolutionaries should separate themselves from the reformers… And I think that it would be good if a conscious effort was being made to get as many people as possible introduced to the wilderness. In a general way, I think what has to be done is not to try and convince or persuade the majority of people that we are right, as much as try to increase tensions in society to the point where things start to break down. To create a situation where people get uncomfortable enough that they’re going to rebel. So the question is how do you increase those tensions?

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    Veronika Krasheninnikova - LII so/sx
    head of the Center for International Studies and Journalism









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    There are several examples of Alpha NTs in the interesting Youtube channel Numberphile. [Part 1]:




    Tony Padilla (younger physicist): ILE (-Ne?). Variable rythm and intonation in speech. Explosive enthusiam very ILE-like.
    Ed Copeland (older physicist): LII-Ti. More focused, and stable rythm and intonation. Calmed, less expressive. Better appreciated in the second video.




    James Grime: ILE-Ne. Very expressive, constantly moving his eyes and similing to the camera.




    Simon Singh: ILE-Ti. Less expressive than former ILEs, more focused in his own thoughts. Style reminds me of Lawrence Krauss, although a bit more serious.

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    [Part 2]:



    Edward Frenkel: LII-Ne. Less relaxed than Ed Copeland, also more energetic. Denser speech. If not Ne sub, at least a differend kind of LII (like DCNH-H for Copeland and D for Frenkel).

    His way speaking is similar to my own.




    Zsuzsanna Dancso: Ne-sub Alpha NT. I would say ILE, although she does not seem confindent in front of the camera.

    (She's cute, by the way ).
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    [Part 3]:

    There are also some gammas in the channel, useful as contrast:



    Katie Steckes: ILI (Ni sub?). Anti-Fe style, aphatic, devoid of most energy and expressivity. Victim eyes.

    James Isenberg: unsure. More expressive than the former, maybe ILI-Te.




    Holly Krieger: LIE-Ni. Constant rythm, quick speech, energetic (Ej). "I will not waste my time" attitude. Dominant & confident expression, as expected by an E8 or E8 wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MensSuperMateriam View Post
    [Part 3]:

    There are also some gammas in the channel, useful as contrast:



    Holly Krieger: LIE-Ni. Constant rythm, quick speech, energetic (Ej). "I will not waste my time" attitude. Dominant & confident expression, as expected by an E8 or E8 wing.
    [strike]She is the right club ExTx, as LIE. Not quite though. I think she is a delta ST, most likely an ESTj and of that of Si subtype.
    Edit: possibly even INFj, she kind of jives like Gwyneth Paltrow.
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    Hey, I think Josh Groban might be an SEI Fe subtype, what do you think ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W74REJjWH8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SyqAbCitgE

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    [strike]She is the right club ExTx, as LIE. Not quite though. I think she is a delta ST, most likely an ESTj and of that of Si subtype.
    Edit: possibly even INFj, she kind of jives like Gwyneth Paltrow.
    ESTj is definitely an option, although I do not see anything that specifically points to that instead LIE. I think the idea of ENTjs here orbits too much around a heavy Ni subt (or even ILI-Te), as there are very few examples of Te subtypes. Probably I should have chosen Te-sub for her, though.

    INFj is very unlikely imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aisa View Post
    no idea, sorry I found it when browsing a Russian forum using a translator when I felt especially curious what the Russian sources look like.
    This page seems to have quite a bit of mistypes, yet at the same time a few quite new typings that seem correct, so I guess like with most VI resources, it can't be fully relied upon...
    I'm not sure, if this is where I found it cause I haven't tried browsing the Russian forums since then as the translations come out ridiculously difficult to read...
    Aisa, the typing in this link provided is really bad. Don't even bother analyzing thier images. If you are still curious about Russian forums, I may help since I'm a native Russian speaker.

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    This chick - Ne-ILE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scientist View Post
    Aisa, the typing in this link provided is really bad. Don't even bother analyzing thier images. If you are still curious about Russian forums, I may help since I'm a native Russian speaker.
    Yeah, I've noticed since then. It's pretty awesomely bad. I've browsed some of the other Russian sources since then with the Google/Bing translators.

    What do you think about this "your-ideal" site? It's possible to register as a regular forum member (without creating a dating profile) and I managed to log in (with translator and some gymnastics) and browse through the database to get a better feel for VI. (I even learned some cyrillic in the process. )
    Which Russian forum(s)/source(s) have info that you think is reliable? (I might browse them with translator and take you up on your offer afterwards if I get stuck. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by May View Post
    ENTp ISFp duality (?) in a minimalist romantic drama aww
    With cute-guy-heartthrob Ethan Hawke being ENTp and the sweet-beautiful Julie Delpy being ISFp. From the Sunrise, Sunset, Midnight set of movies by Richard Linklater.

    The trailer for the first movie in the set:
    Been told by a girl I dated that our interactions reminded her a lot of this movie. Never have seen it though. Does seem like ENTp-ISFP duality.
    Suomea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suomea View Post
    Been told by a girl I dated that our interactions reminded her a lot of this movie. Never have seen it though. Does seem like ENTp-ISFP duality.
    Oh hm :) You should check out the movie if you feel like it. I thought it was pretty good.

    Got another alpha looking movie. Maybe featuring an ILE - ESE activity pair? With Steve Coogan (longer hair) being ILE and Rob Brydon being ESE.


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    John Nash, LII-Ti.

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    Passed away in a car accident.


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    this guy seems SEI-Si (Sasha Issenberg)


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    Quote Originally Posted by MensSuperMateriam View Post
    [Part 2]:



    Edward Frenkel: LII-Ne. Less relaxed than Ed Copeland, also more energetic. Denser speech. If not Ne sub, at least a differend kind of LII (like DCNH-H for Copeland and D for Frenkel).

    His way speaking is similar to my own.
    sexy totally not LII beta. (LSI or EIE)

    Quote Originally Posted by MensSuperMateriam View Post


    Zsuzsanna Dancso: Ne-sub Alpha NT. I would say ILE, although she does not seem confindent in front of the camera.

    (She's cute, by the way ).
    SEI.

    no opinion on Katie Steckes, and Holly Krieger is probably LSE.

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    at point i typed most of the Numberphile (plus Sixty Symbols) roster so here it is one more time minus guest appearances:


    James Grime - LII


    Ria Symonds - ESE?


    Roger Bowley - some Ne/Si type not sure


    Matt Parker - LSE


    Holly Krieger - probably LSE


    Edward Frenkel - beta rational


    Laurence Eaves - LSI


    Phil Moriarty - ILE


    John Hunton - SLI


    Meghan Grey - LII


    Alex Bellos - ILE? SLE? one of these two


    Steve Mould - EII

    Antonio 'Tony' Padilla, Ed Copeland and Dr James Clewett are all probably Alpha dunno which ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    sexy totally not LII beta. (LSI or EIE)
    I'm curious, why do you think so?

    My idea of an EIE mathematician is someone like Roger Penrose. I see cerain loose resemblance, but not enough for qualifying as the same type imo. For example, he seems a bit tense, rigid in a typical Ij fashion, and Fe is not strong enough.

    LSI could be, but I prefer the LII option. I do not see anything that points to Ne PoLR; the way he "plays" with concepts (while explaining things) remembers me of alpha NTs. In my experience, LSIs tend to be more direct in their speeches and explanations.


    [EDIT]
    After commenting this case with Aisa I think you are right. Probably EIE-Ni.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    at point i typed most of the Numberphile (plus Sixty Symbols) roster so here it is one more time minus guest appearances:


    James Grime - LII
    It's possible, although he has too much Ne & Fe, and seems a bit directionless (disperse). I prefer ILE, but LII is a good option.

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    BJ Novak - LII ?

    Ij temperament, xNTx club. Seems democratic and childlike as well. :)

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    LII ?



    :) :) :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by May View Post


    BJ Novak - LII ?

    Ij temperament, xNTx club. Seems democratic and childlike as well.
    That's the impression I got.
    Suomea

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    Julianne Moore - ESE ?

    Ej temperament, xSFx club, positivist, democratic.



    Sofia Vegara - ESE ?

    Same - seems Ej temperament, xSFx club, positivist, democratic.
    Last edited by may; 06-03-2015 at 06:05 AM.

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    Jeanine Pirro....ILE 7w8 so/sp




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    Kim Dotcom....ILE 3w2 sp/so




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    Main character Greenberg (ILE) falls for Florence (SEI), the blond personal assistant.

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