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    IJ
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    EJ

    they work so fucking hard and expect the same from others. bleh

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    well, if i like the ep temperament, that's mean that i dont consider it sees me as a ij temperament.

    IJ.

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    Somehow I get the feeling that this is just going to be people posting the temperament of their conflictor.
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    I can't tell for sure but I'd think IJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    Somehow I get the feeling that this is just going to be people posting the temperament of their conflictor.
    Which might be teh point of the thread.

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    well, if i like the ep temperament, that's mean that i dont consider it sees me as a ij temperament.

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    If you like? So you're basing this on the idea that you're ILI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    Somehow I get the feeling that this is just going to be people posting the temperament of their conflictor.
    Which might be teh point of the thread.
    I was just curious, actually. After seeing a few posts though, it crossed my mind that it's the temperament of one's mirror... and that this might be useful in choosing between mirror pairs. Of course, that's premature... but it had crossed my mind. I didn't even think of the conflictor thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by XoX
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    Somehow I get the feeling that this is just going to be people posting the temperament of their conflictor.
    Which might be teh point of the thread.
    I was just curious, actually. After seeing a few posts though, it crossed my mind that it's the temperament of one's mirror... and that this might be useful in choosing between mirror pairs. Of course, that's premature... but it had crossed my mind. I didn't even think of the conflictor thing.
    Lol, ok. I thought you had figured out a new way to find your temperament and you wanted to test whether it works.

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    well, if i like the ep temperament, that's mean that i dont consider it sees me as a ij temperament.

    IJ.
    If you like? So you're basing this on the idea that you're ILI?
    Im basing my idea that im ILI for my gf relationship.

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    well, if i like the ep temperament, that's mean that i dont consider it sees me as a ij temperament.

    IJ.
    If you like? So you're basing this on the idea that you're ILI?
    Im basing my idea that im ILI for my gf relationship.
    you're disqualified from this thread
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    OK

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    For some reason I'm inclined to think IJ but I can't think of any reasoning why.
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    Probably any of the other two extraverted temperaments.
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    I don't want to focus on how our answers apply to our types though... that's actually the opposite of the idea behind this thread. Don't think, just answer. Which temperament do you think would drive you crazy in a relationship? If you have to think about your type in order to answer the question, your answer is meaningless. Go post here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    I don't want to focus on how our answers apply to our types though... that's actually the opposite of the idea behind this thread. Don't think, just answer. Which temperament do you think would drive you crazy in a relationship? If you have to think about your type in order to answer the question, your answer is meaningless.
    ok, i have to say something here. i dont based my opinion 'thinking' in my type. Perhaps the way i said "if i like" is not the correct. In fact, i like ep temperament and to me it was really hard to find the 'right' anwser to you question. I just use my own improved logic to answer.
    I remember the other day (time ago) answer some of this question about what temperament you like most: i said EP. So, I don't see your problem.

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    Hmmmm I didn't think to rate the other ones.

    Most to least (crazy):

    IP
    EP
    EJ
    IJ

    I'm not totally sure that EP would be worse than EJ. I find myself thinking about individual types, which defeats the purpose of this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by normal
    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    I don't want to focus on how our answers apply to our types though... that's actually the opposite of the idea behind this thread. Don't think, just answer. Which temperament do you think would drive you crazy in a relationship? If you have to think about your type in order to answer the question, your answer is meaningless.
    ok, i have to say something here. i dont based my opinion 'thinking' in my type. Perhaps the way i said "if i like" is not the correct. In fact, i like ep temperament and to me it was really hard to find the 'right' anwser to you question. I just use my own improved logic to answer.
    I remember the other day (time ago) answer some of this question about what temperament you like most: i said EP. So, I don't see your problem.
    Don't think, just answer. Which temperament do you think would drive you crazy in a relationship?

    (It would be very unwise to assume that it's the opposite of your ideal partner's or the opposite of yours.)
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    I think an ENFj or ESTj would drive me insane, but not an ESFj or ENTj
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    Quote Originally Posted by dee
    i think it shouldn't because types with the same Xy leading would have the same temperament, so you can think of the 4 types in the temperament group.
    I would much rather be with ANY type from my own quadra than the type of my favorite temperament (for a mate, that is) from my opposing quadra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    I think an ENFj or ESTj would drive me insane, but not an ESFj or ENTj
    would you please get a new girlfriend already? or retype the one you've got?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    I think an ENFj or ESTj would drive me insane, but not an ESFj or ENTj
    would you please get a new girlfriend already? or retype the one you've got?
    What do you mean? I was exclusively speaking by my experience with the abovementioned types...(that, if you notice, share the common feature of aristocracy and negativism). Even though, I get along well with ENFps and sometimes with ESTps...not really with ENTps, and 50-50 with ESFps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by dee
    i think it shouldn't because types with the same Xy leading would have the same temperament, so you can think of the 4 types in the temperament group.
    I would much rather be with ANY type from my own quadra than the type of my favorite temperament (for a mate, that is) from my opposing quadra.
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    well, my gf (ENFj) drives me crazy a lot, but I love her. I don't know what to answer Joy. Avoiding my 'logic', i guess IJ and EJ temperament are my least to be with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
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    I think an ENFj or ESTj would drive me insane, but not an ESFj or ENTj
    would you please get a new girlfriend already? or retype the one you've got?
    What do you mean? I was exclusively speaking by my experience with the abovementioned types...(that, if you notice, share the common feature of aristocracy and negativism)
    In response to what? And why pick the EJ temperament?
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    never mind, no need to get into it if you'd rather just leave it at that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    I think an ENFj or ESTj would drive me insane, but not an ESFj or ENTj
    would you please get a new girlfriend already? or retype the one you've got?
    What do you mean? I was exclusively speaking by my experience with the abovementioned types...(that, if you notice, share the common feature of aristocracy and negativism)
    In response to what? And why pick the EJ temperament?
    I was just thinking out loud...I can't see myself with either EJs or EPs, I am way too extraverted to stomach another one. But if I were to choose among EJs, I would dismiss immediatly ENFjs and ESTjs. What did you think my opnion led to (I'm kind of genuinely interested b/c I didn't understand)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by dee
    i think it shouldn't because types with the same Xy leading would have the same temperament, so you can think of the 4 types in the temperament group.
    I would much rather be with ANY type from my own quadra than the type of my favorite temperament (for a mate, that is) from my opposing quadra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    I think an ENFj or ESTj would drive me insane, but not an ESFj or ENTj
    would you please get a new girlfriend already? or retype the one you've got?
    What do you mean? I was exclusively speaking by my experience with the abovementioned types...(that, if you notice, share the common feature of aristocracy and negativism)
    In response to what? And why pick the EJ temperament?
    I was just thinking out loud...I can't see myself with either EJs or EPs, I am way too extraverted to stomach another one. But if I were to choose among EJs, I would dismiss immediatly ENFjs and ESTjs. What did you think my opnion led to (I'm kind of genuinely interested b/c I didn't understand)
    never mind... I totally misunderstood you

    I understand what you're talking about, btw. If I had to pick which of the extroverted types I'd most like to be with, I'd have to say SEE > LIE > ... any of the rest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno
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    they work so fucking hard and expect the same from others. bleh
    Exactly right. I'm married to one!
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    I would least like to be with an EP even though I have nothing against them in general. I always feel kind of displaced, decentered and unrelaxed around them... too much something I can't really describe.
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    I tend to get on best with other irrational types... people who can be mellow, flexible, spontaneous, and not resistant to change, not try to plan everything we do before hand, or schedule it, or anything like that... so Ip and Ep are fine... I seem to conflict somewhat with Ij and Ej, because eventually problems will arise from my point of view where the Ij or Ej person might seem somewhat (or even overly) rigid or fixed (to me) when I don't want to be fixed. I'm sure they would have a similar though opposite problem with me... Also I may not be exacting enough for some people... like if people nit-pick everything I say or do, it just makes things very unbearable... I'm not sure who the nit-pickers are though... J or SJ? possible STj... I dunno. Hmm... of Ej and Ij, I think Ej might be the one I get on with the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    I tend to get on best with other irrational types... people who can be mellow, flexible, spontaneous, and not resistant to change, not try to plan everything we do before hand, or schedule it, or anything like that... so Ip and Ep are fine... I seem to conflict somewhat with Ij and Ej, because eventually problems will arise in that from my point of view they might seem somewhat rigid or fixed (to me) when I don't want to be fixed. I'm sure they would have a similar though opposite problem with me... Also I may not be exacting enough for some people... like if people nit-pick everything I say or do, it just makes things very unbearable... I'm not sure who the nit-pickers are though... J or SJ? possible STj... I dunno. Hmm... of Ej and Ij, I think Ej might be the one I get on with the worst.
    Same here. Worst for me would probably be IJ or EXTj It does depend on the individual. My ESFj husband is nit-picky about some things (like keeping the counter tops clean) but generally goes with the flow pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    I tend to get on best with other irrational types... people who can be mellow, flexible, spontaneous, and not resistant to change, not try to plan everything we do before hand, or schedule it, or anything like that... so Ip and Ep are fine... I seem to conflict somewhat with Ij and Ej, because eventually problems will arise from my point of view where the Ij or Ej person might seem somewhat (or even overly) rigid or fixed (to me) when I don't want to be fixed.
    This is exactly how I see it too. There is ALWAYS at least an ever-present modicum of discomfort for me with any "J" type, even acquaintances and friends. I can't imagine being in a very close relationship with them. I'd always feel like they were ready to criticize me.

    Although I do have an ENFj friend who I'm quite close with, I've imagined that he'd get really frustrated with me in an intimate relationship. (He's married, so it's really not an issue).
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka-kitsune
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    I tend to get on best with other irrational types... people who can be mellow, flexible, spontaneous, and not resistant to change, not try to plan everything we do before hand, or schedule it, or anything like that... so Ip and Ep are fine... I seem to conflict somewhat with Ij and Ej, because eventually problems will arise from my point of view where the Ij or Ej person might seem somewhat (or even overly) rigid or fixed (to me) when I don't want to be fixed.
    This is exactly how I see it too. There is ALWAYS at least an ever-present modicum of discomfort for me with any "J" type, even acquaintances and friends. I can't imagine being in a very close relationship with them. I'd always feel like they were ready to criticize me.
    Maybe not if you were the supervisor I think that things aren't quite so black and white in a real relationship. It really does depend on the individuals involved. I only feel criticized in one area of our marriage and that's how messy I let the house get. I sometimes criticize his emotional over-expressiveness (mostly when he's angry) but otherwise there is very little criticism. I think that for me, an Ij type would be worse because they would tend to keep their negative thoughts inside that could fester. I am a bit nervous sometimes around other introverts because you can't always tell what they are thinking and they don't always share it. I think that can lead to misunderstandings, especially in a close relationship. Even in a good friendship. I have an ISFp friend and we've had some misunderstandings because of this although because there's a lot of good will, we are able to resolve things fairly quickly and get over it. Still, I think it might be hard in an intimate relationship and even harder with an IJ. But I could be wrong.
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    I see the benefits of all:

    IP: great chillers, very laidback. Take life as it is, and enjoy it for what it is. In touch with themselves, whatever that may be.
    EP: flexible, 'out-there' and good on their feet.
    EJ: they just keep going and going and going. Perfect for getting things done.
    IJ: systematic and orderly; they care about that which keeps the ordered parts of the world in order.
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    EJ - especially when they talk down to you

    Some EJs I have known IRL like to explain simple stuff to me in detail to the extent that I feel like an idiot. They like to assume that I don't know much and thought that they are doing a favour for me by explaining about obvious matters which needs no explanation at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno
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    they work so fucking hard and expect the same from others. bleh

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