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    quotes: Wikiquote & Goodreads

    A lengthy interview, in many parts in YouTube - you can get the links from the first one.

    Cinematic genius, but in later years best known for wine commercials - I wonder if many people even remember him today.

    His type is very obvious to me from the videos, I had never considered it.






    Last edited by silke; 01-23-2018 at 07:49 AM. Reason: updated links
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    ENFp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Ni0c5-a5c[/youtube]

    A lenghty interview, in many parts in YouTube - you can get the links from the first one.

    Cinematic genius, but in later years best known for wine commercials - I wonder if many people even remember him today.

    His type is very obvious to me from the videos, I had never considered it.
    His film F, for fake, sort of thrills me.

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    Gamma, irrational. Most likely INTp.

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    Orson Welles - of Citizen Kane and War of the Worlds. Didn't know he did wine commercials, though. When I was in high school, one of my classes did a slightly simplified version of his famous Halloween trick.
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    ESFp?
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    Interesting that everyone thought he was irrational.

    ENFp is not bad, but I think he was ISFp.

    If you pay attention, he seems to devalue Te in the interview. His movies, especially Citizen Kane, are about creative ways of using images to provoke emotional responses - something Bionicgoat is also very good at.

    Valueing of Si and Ne are obvious, but I think ISFp is more likely than ENFp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Interesting that everyone thought he was irrational.
    Maybe. But he is a good example of the fact that one can often be absolutely certain of whether a person is a rational or an irrational type just by the intuitive "impression" he gives. Everyone with a minimum competence in Socionics should be able to immediately see, hear, and "feel" that Orson Wells is an irrational type.

    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    ENFp is not bad, but I think he was ISFp.
    His exact type is not as easy to determine as his irrationality, but that he seems to be an ethical type is rather certain.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    ESFp?
    That is one of my strongest guesses too. He seems more likely extraverted than introverted, and if ethical and not ENFp then ESFp is possible. His body type suggests ESFp>ENFp in my opinion, and it is also consistent with ISFp.

    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Gamma, irrational. Most likely INTp.
    Gamma irrational is possible, INTp is impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Gamma, irrational. Most likely INTp.
    What makes you think INTp? Or Gamma, for that matter?


    Quote Originally Posted by Minde
    Didn't know he did wine commercials, though.
    Towards the end of his life, he did lots of small things, including wine commercials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Interesting that everyone thought he was irrational.

    ENFp is not bad, but I think he was ISFp.

    If you pay attention, he seems to devalue Te in the interview. His movies, especially Citizen Kane, are about creative ways of using images to provoke emotional responses - something Bionicgoat is also very good at.

    Valueing of Si and Ne are obvious, but I think ISFp is more likely than ENFp.
    I think I can agree with you. He reminds me of a few other SEIs I know. He is very likeable for me -- very mild and easy-going.
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    Oh Gosh!!! You guys are funny!!!! Orson Welles is ENTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    Gamma, irrational. Most likely INTp.
    Do you consider: YOU CAN NOT MISTAKE?

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    Bump. I heard this might have been improvised?


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    He reminds me of my aunt, who I think is EIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaaroslav View Post
    Do you consider: YOU CAN NOT MISTAKE?
    Fully support.
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    why can't he be EIE ...just because the Socionix gallery suggests it .

    Citizen Kane is not far from a Je dom. - Se HA movie.

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    never seen his movies but his face looks too intense for gamma. beta beta beta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    ESTp

    Check exactly @2:00:00 of the Arena documentary in the OP to hear Anthony Perkins talk about Welles' mastery at manipulating people to conform to his vision. Sounds like EIE to me.

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    His speech feels like it is being delivered by Fe "process" type making it a split between EIE and SEI. Listening to a few interviews he seems to be a little unsure of himself on sensory topics so leaning towards EIE soc-3w4.

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    Orson Welles - ENFP - Huxley



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    Orson Welles ENFJ EIE-Ni the WATCHMAN/ALARMIST per my current typings.
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    Ni

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    I remember a lot of people typed him as SLE, and me and my IEI friend never truly grasped the reason of that typing. She types him as LIE, I rather think he's a really typical ILI.
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